Babies Born October 16th ~ 31st 2009

[Kazmar]

Well the health nurse is REALLY happy with Lucy She's super impressed with my full cream milk which is keeping Lucy nice and 'healthy' haha
She's now 11lb 40z 58com long She was born at 7lb 11oz if that gives you an idea

Tammie- Eli sounds like he's doing so well! We dont see much of you, what do you get up to? Funny with solids everyone has a different take on it. I intorduced them at 6months for Annabelle but she wasn't interested till about 10months!

Well ladies tell me, Im interested. Who does playgroups etc?

[Rach75]

tammie all ican say is research i do all the vaccines just not rota virus and chicken pox as they are live virus vaccines
can i ask what reasoning your dr gave to early solids ???

[Rach75]

i have a small mums group from when jack was born there are only 5 of us now 4 regulars we have all had 2nd bubs we try to catch up once amth or so ... as for playgroup i started going with jack this year due to m/s didn't go as often as i would have liked its finished now till late jan so guess we will start going again then

[rach2281]

Miss A is only 4.5kgs, i thought she was tiny til i look at Evangeline, she is such a little doll

Stevie - heheh she is my little, except she poo's and eats Though in saying that, Lilli was 5mths 1wk when she passed, and i had weighed 3 days prior to it, she just hit 6kg then hence why i get so worried about little bubs.
Also I hope yu and DH ended up having a better day yesterday. But know that we are here for you, and yep VENT AWAY!!

DD - Im part of a mummy's group. We all met via Belly Belly on the local members thread. We now meet every wednesday, and we each take a turn of picking a spot cause we from all over newcastle. I love my mummies!!!

Tammie - Yep they 4mths is the reccommended time you now can start solids, pending child of course. I started Lilli at 4mths, cause the naughty girl didn't like her milk, but she loved her food!!! Though in saying that, my friends little boy was almost 7mths before he would eat solids. S once again, each bubs is different.

Rach - Good on you for speaking up about your choice. Though i also reasearched and my choice was to have them all done. As for hubby, mines the opposite. He was very standoish at first with Ethan, he got better with Lilli, now he's great . But could be just you DH adjusting to hun.

Fi- yay im looking forward to tomorrow

A big to everyone else. Of to take Evangeline to the sleep apneia doctor today. I think he books us in today to get the actual test done, but ill inform you all when i get back.

[Rach75]

thanks

well after finally saying something about Jase low and behold he interacted greatly with Luke last night, still didn't feed or bath him but he did cuddle, comfort him etc its a start... I am wondering if it has something to do with my rule about no-one else feeding the boys bottles, as I said he back me 100% with Jack when I did this but with Luke he said he would then the other week I complained about his mum having a go at me for not letting them feed Luke his bottles, and he said he thinks I am being selfish for not letting them, so I wonder if the not feeding thing is so I get tired of it and will willingly let someone else do a feed stoopid man if he thinks this way cause nothing will change my mind on this

well we are off to Agnes this arvie so Jase can mow the block fun times, then again maybe I can do the mowing and he can care for the boys 3hrs or so on the ride on, with only MP3 to listens too no baby crying no annoying 3 yr old chatter oh me thinks thats a plan

[Stevie]

Hello everyone
Thankd for worrying about me guys it makes me feel so loved

DH and i got alot sorted out yesterday, he comes home this afternoon so we will do some more talking tonight (its hard to have a serious discussion over the phone)
To cut a long story short, my mother has never really been there, i left home when i was 16 and she's been in and out of my life since (now that i have a daughter of my own i realise how sad this is coz theres not a thing that could keep me away, i would do anything possible to sort our problems out) anyway just before christmas last year i got back in contact with her after nearly 3 years of not speaking, DH wasnt fond of this but he gave in and let me see her. after i fell pg my mum was so excited and couldnt wait to be a nan, she told me she feared DH would try and not let her see our baby, stupid me promised i wouldnt let him. then when i was about 30 weeks pg and told me there is no way our baby is going to have anything to do with my mum (my mum is not perfect, she used to smoke weed and like i said kinda kicked me out when i was 16 [i say 'kinda' coz she gave me an ultimadum (sp?) who does that to a 16 year old who is over there mothers crap?lol] and then just after i i stopped seeign her last time if she seen me on the street she would call me a sl*t and all other kinds of names infront of everyone) so this is why DH didnt want me to see her but he soon realised he couldnt stop me, but when it comes to our daughter he has every right (like i do) to make a decision like that.
So back to past of the reason of our fighting, ever since i had Miss A ive been hounding him to let me see her with Alissa ( i should add that i told her i couldnt have anything to do with her anymore (via SMS i know shoot me ok) because i knew i didnt have the heart to tell her she couldnt see her grandbaby, so i figured if i stepped out of her life completely this would hurt too but not as much as not being able to see her grandbaby. i know this all sounds very stupid but she knows how DH feels about her so im betting she knew it was coming. at the time i was pg and irrational and i couldnt see past the hurt i would cause her not letting her see Alissa.
anyway he finally gave in and said yes i could take Alissa to see her (after much fighting about it he decided this on Tuesday night) but then i found an email to my older sister from my mum saying (not the exact words coz i cant remember lol) "due to my lung condition i had a very severe collapse just recently more tests have shown that i now have a severe heart condition, i dont have as long as i would like. Please dont tell Nan or Stevie because i dont want one to worry and its none of the others business." this is when i realised she doesnt want to see me and i feel so bad that ive put DH through all of this, selfish me wasnt thinking if her pain, i was thinking of the selfish guilt i was feeling. nan knows about the condition, i had no idea, i didnt even know she had a lung condition, im the one whos none of my business.
I feel so bad and self centred for putting DH through this, Jon and Alissa are the most important things in my life not a woman who says she's my mother but who has walked away numerous times in my life. This made me see that i shouldnt dwell on the past, i should be grateful for the loving family i have now, my IL's are more family to me than my own ever was.
Thanks for listening to me rave on about it. I just thought you guys might need some insight.
You ladies are all so awesome, i wouldnt have got through being pg and having my first baby and all this stuff now if it wasnt for you all I love you all xxx


Re: the vax i had NO IDEA about that rota virus no one told me to be super careful about pooey nappies, even though i do wash my hands carefully after every change, i just put the nappies in a nappy bucket, i will from now on be taking them to the outside bin. this really annoys me, im not mad that i got the vax coz i would have anyway, im just ****y that no one gave me this info. Thanks for bringing this to my attention rach xxx

anyway i have to be off, house work is waiting for me xxx
DH gets home tonight so hopefuly we'll have it all sorted out, again you guys have no idea how much i appreciate all your support xxx

[Rach75]

we have had some issues with my mum too, not the same as yours but problems to the point jase wont visit, if we go to Rocky we stay somewhere else and I get dropped off at mums, is starting to jerk me around trying to choose as I said I know its not the same but I feel for you...

as for rota virus people dont get told, they will fob you off if you bring it up as well, I did a lot of research into when jack was a bub... but it certainly pays to be extra careful

[rach2281]

morning girls, well what a day i had yesterday I go to the sleep apneia doctor. This tupid man the asks me "so what brings you here today" grrrr he had the referal right there in front of him. So i then had to explain what happened to Lilli. After that i then had to go and do a resusation course Well they couldhave told me earlier. On the bed is this little baby doll that i have to give CPR to. First the lady says "now imagine you walk into the room and your child is not breathing" umm well hello i don't need to imagine ive been there. Anyway then the tears started, it was one very emtional day.

Stevie - aww hun, you poor thing. Im glad you were able to sort things out with DH and now move on with your life. It must have been so hard for you. I can totally understand that you wanted to see your mum, and im sorry to hear that she is sick.

[boomba]

Oh Rach hun that must have been awful
Steveie darling Hope you guys can work through everyhitng..DH and I have issues when it comes to his parents and I have said they wont be meeting Flynn...they met DS1 when he was 3 months and have never visited again..I can see your DH argument too, I know my dh loves his family but they continue to hurt him and I wont allow it But he is a big boy too so if he wants to see them I let him..I just dont go and neither do the kids.
Rach75 wow I never new that about teh rotaviris one..I knew it was a live vaccs but never knew about being super careful..will chat to the dr and make sure he knows lol!

Re the DH interaction with ds2 I feel he is about the same..cant so the same for me though..i am still feeling a little disconnected form hijm...I spose it is because I have a 2 yr old running around too so its easy for me to put Flynn in the swing while i do everything..but I never had the instant love connection wiht Flynn like I did Myles? I feel awful and I feel like i am neglecting him..which i know I am not...maybe its the GD issue too?
Sorry I rambled a bit then

Kass how are you going hun? I think about you heaps

Well better go I can hear DS 1 in the toilet making a mess grrrr lol!

xxx

[Tammie]

Good morning!

I'll try with some personals (hopefully Eli stays sleeping!)...

DM - i am really slack for not visiting in here more often... i don't get up to anything too exciting i just seem to go out each day. I'm 26 and before having this time off work, the longest holiday i ever had was 5 weeks to go to the States. I basically finished school and went to uni F/T for 5 years then started working and have never taken a break. Now that i am on a break i am just enjoying catching up with friends, lunch dates, coffee etc.... i think the real issue is that i don't like my own company so i find other people to spend my days with! But i love being a mum and figure i may as well go to lots of places now while Eli is a good sleeper and doesn't run around or get too grumpy about being out.

Rach's - apparently the recommendation for solids at 4 mths is going back to old school ideas. Many years ago solids used to be given at 4 mths and this has some benefits in terms of allergy identification - the research has been that delayed introduction of variety of foods is interfering with immune development and is causing babies/kids to have more food intolerances than previously. I have attached a link for a short article i found on this, it just reconfirmed what the dr said to me though - can start at 4 months and introduce a new food each day. He also suggested i start with vegies first.
The Solids Controversy


AFM, i caved on wednesday and gave Eli a dummy when he had a tummy ache and wouldn't settle - i didn't want to feed because that would make it worse but the sucking motion was producing more saliva so it settled him quite quickly and then i took the dummy out. I feel bad for giving him a dummy because it was something i didn't want to do (i had a dummy and my mum had a terrible time trying to get it off me....) but i have found life so much easier giving him a dummy on occasion during the day instead of carrying him around (not to mention cooler!). I hdo have 'dummy rules' though so he doesn't get a dummy to go to sleep or just for the fun of it etc... because of my rules DH is too scared to give him the dummy in case he does it at the wrong time, so i am the 'dummy controller' - LOL.

Hmmm, i can hear Eli starting to cry - gtg!

[fi1980]

Hi everyone, sorry have been MIA for a few days our internet was down but is back up now so all good

Stevie hun, that sounds awful about all the stuff going on with your mum etc. I really don't know what to say other than just do what you think is right for you and try to make sure you dont have any regrets. I'm glad things with DH seem to be getting better. Jump on and vent to us anytime!

Tammie, good to see you in here a bit more! I'm the same, have never had time to myself, always been doing a thousand things at once so this is the first time I have really slowed down (although looking after a new baby is still pretty full on!) I'm finding that I actually do enjoy my own company which is nice.

Rach75 glad things seem to be getting better for you. I'm sure it is a huge adjustment having 4 in the family and it would be heaps different to having your first baby as with the first everything is so new and exciting, I definitely think the dynamics of my home life would change significantly when we have more babies. How is little Jack going?

Boomba, don't feel bad hun you are an awesome mummy! Running around after a 2 year old wouldn't leave you with as much time for Flynn as you had with Myles when he was a baby. I know at the moment I have the luxury of being able to waste an hour just staring at my beautiful little girl, doing that with #2 would be virtually impossible! Please dont be hard on yourself.

Who have I missed.... DM, LJ and anyone else I have missed sending you big

AFM.... I caught up with Rach2281 on Friday! Let me just say that little Evangeline is absolutely adorable!! And she is such a calm happy baby. Leila decided she would be a bit of a terror on Friday so she screamed for the entire time I was getting her ready to go out and all the way there until I put her on the boob for a feed. We had a few minutes of happy baby but generally she was a bit of a sooky high maintenance baby all day! Always the way, of course since then she's been an absolute angel

Sorry if I have missed anyone or anything but I am thinking of you all.

Fi x

[Rach75]

rach2281 hugs that would have been so hard

Rach75[/B] wow I never new that about teh rotaviris one..I knew it was a live vaccs but never knew about being super careful..will chat to the dr and make sure he knows lol!

Re the DH interaction with ds2 I feel he is about the same..cant so the same for me though..i am still feeling a little disconnected form hijm...I spose it is because I have a 2 yr old running around too so its easy for me to put Flynn in the swing while i do everything..but I never had the instant love connection wiht Flynn like I did Myles? I feel awful and I feel like i am neglecting him..which i know I am not...maybe its the GD issue too?

I feel like I neglect Jack at the moment, I am usually feeding luke and he plays up he was so used to it being him and me all day, we went to the shops the other day just him and me and he was like the little boy I have always had so well behaved I feel like I have been letting him down so am going to be more attentive, Luke had started taking a big nap in the middle of day so am going to try and do jack and me stuff, craft or play trains or something.. Jase is getting better, still not feeding him and he just has no clue when Luke cries, I am like have ya checked his nappy etc

Rach's - apparently the recommendation for solids at 4 mths is going back to old school ideas. Many years ago solids used to be given at 4 mths and this has some benefits in terms of allergy identification - the research has been that delayed introduction of variety of foods is interfering with immune development and is causing babies/kids to have more food intolerances than previously. I have attached a link for a short article i found on this, it just reconfirmed what the dr said to me though - can start at 4 months and introduce a new food each day. He also suggested i start with vegies first.
The Solids Controversy


AFM, i caved on wednesday and gave Eli a dummy

okay about solids each to their own just wasn't sure why he was saying it now IYKWIM!!!
I know what ya mean about the dummy I hate hate them but guess who has one he seriously will not use his thumb, he tucks it into his fist...but he needs that comfort at times, you could be like me I refuse to use it except for comfort I will not have him walkign around with one...

How is little Jack going?

AFM.... I caught up with Rach2281 on Friday!

Jack is doing great he has healed up real well, we had some terrible moments, we are making him have a shower every morning (he still has a night nappy) and he fights me all the way saying it hurts etc but jase can give him a shower and no complaints grrrr... and can I say I would say only one or two lots more of ointment left again cracks it if I have to apply the ointment fights me arches his back tries to move away but is a angle for Jase

and YAY for catching up with rach I hope when I get down brisbane way to catch up with the girls down there

AFM we are back from our weekend away to AGnes oh that was boring but I did get some great sleep saturday ... poor Luke was not himself the last few days dotn know if it was the needles or he got a little cold a few of the kids in town here have had fevers etc... we think he had a fever yesterday but as we were away no thermometre so we gave panadol on the safe side... he seems much more himself today... we also bought some thickener for his bottles he is such a spewy baby when we saw paed at 6 weeks we asked about it and she said it wont hurt to try, so hopign it will work, had to wait till we got home to use as it recomends using med flow teats and of course he was still on slow ones, so bottles are already to go with new teats, so pray it works I am tired of being spewed on ...oh also someone mentioned brauers pain releif and few posts back the only one I could find is not recomended for under 6 mths is there another one ???

ok should go to bed, luke has been down since 7.15pm ... hopign he sleeps till his usual wake up of between 1-2am

[Stevie]

just a quick one from me atm saying im thinking of you all in this hectic season.
just dropped dh off to work and Ali is now hungry so i will bbl for personals am droppomg her off at MIL place later on so i can go and get some chrissy shooping done so i might have a spare 5mins to update and get back to you all
lotsa love
xxx

[ElleJay]

Just popping in to say hello and hope your all well.. DH was sick from Thursday till Saturday and then I was sick from Saturday night to Monday-ish.. Still not feeling the best, but when DH said to me yesterday what he said after I said that he could help out a lil just made me push myself further to get better.. I asked him if he could help out (cause he was complaining - again - bout the state of the living room) if he thought it was a mess, that he could do it, he says 'So I guess I can't relax and enjoy my holidays then'

FFS! It's only a 10-20 minute job! You have 6 WEEKS of holidays! Do I ever get to relax and enjoy a holiday? Do I ever get a holiday?! The only "holidays" I get is taking them two along with me OR the 2 or 3 hours I might get to rest at my ILs place while they look after DS!

He also said that because I'm a housewife that I should be the one doing the work.. Grrrr, I'm not superwoman! I do need help on occasions and I'm half tempted to call his mum and dad over to help while he just sits on his bum (and I can show them that he does)

Ok, enough of a vent - I've gotta go check DS and DH while they're both sleeping - Hopefully be back later
If I'm not on before, have a great Christmas everyone

[boomba]

LJ Men just dont get it! xx

Will bbl xxxx

[Stevie]

Lj i totally know where your coming from, DH and i have sorted our previous dramas out, TBH and i think its a bit of a TMI but he hadnt got any for nearly 4 months, we DTD twice on his 4 days off and it made him a changed man hahah. But he's still super slack with Ali, i dont think its coz he doesnt love her or doesnt feel connected its just that he doesnt know what to do with her, he was really good while he was home, as long as i ASKED him to do, i couldnt say "oh i think she has a wet bum..." i had to be like "can you please change her while i make your lunch?" and i made a point of if i wasnt feeding her and she wasnt cracking it, and we were watching telly, id give her to him and say " going to do blah blah blah..." but id usually just jump on my computer but its giving him alone time with her and he really needs that, he's like "all she does is sit there.." and im like "she IS a baby!!" but now she's smiling heaps for him and half laughing (making little noises) he actually got her out of bed this morning and put her in bed next to him i even got him to feed her a bottle the other day but then she threw it up all over herself coz he wasnt watching what he was doing and stuck it too far into her mouth and made her gag.
BUT... the thing that he did do that annoyed thecrap out of me was she was crying (she had a really grumpy weekend) id dont EVERYTHING to try n settle her i was just sitting on the couch while she cried (she wasnt SCREAMING just crying IYKWIM) he was asleep (yes having a nana nap the lucky bum) then had the nereve to tell me to "go walk around outide obviously what your doing isnt working... im trying to sleep" i was just like
seriously bugger him, i dont even get to sleep that well at night why should he get a nana nap, i dont mind that he does but **** go sleep in the bedroom and let me have the loungeroom so i can do SOMETHING while she cries... grrr... men!!
but really, other than that he's been really good, i think him finally getting laid did the trick, simple minds i tell ya

anyway am off to do some christmas shopping while MIL looks after Ali, am i a bad mum for leaving her with MIL? i dont do it all the time, maybe twice sometimes 3 times a week when DH is away, i just dont get much time when he's not here, even when he is i still dont but yeh LOL

Love you all
take care
xxx

[Tammie]

Big hugs Stevie and LJ - men can be incredibly annoying (and selfish too!)

[fi1980]

Hi girls

thought I'd jump on quickly and say hello before xmas as I have all of DH family arriving this afternoon, some staying for a week so I probably wont get the chance to log on again for a while.

Stevie, glad things seem to be getting better for you with DH silly that it took DTD to settle him down though! Men Hopefully he becomes more involved with DD and stops taking nana naps in the lounge! Some one on one time for them is a must, I too have to force DH to do it sometimes. It's not that he doesn't love her or enjoy looking after her he just doesn't think that maybe he should pick her up and talk to her or give her cuddles or whatever. Sometimes I wonder what goes on in a man's mind - I'd say a lot of the time NOT MUCH!

LJ sounds like more frustrating times for you with DH. It sucks that they think they are entitled to 'breaks' and 'holidays' agree with you that as a mum we NEVER get a break and it can be utterly exhausting. You are not superwoman so please don't try to be! Maybe just try talking to him gently and explaining that you are really tired, that you never get a break and if he could pitch in and share some of the load then it would be much appreciated. Sometimes men don't get things until they are explained to them in plain simple language - as with my reply to Stevie, sometimes they just don't think!

On the topic of DH well I think mine tops all of yours for his comment yesterday about my weight - yep, he pretty much told me I was fat Bit of background, I have never been overweight and have always been very fit and athletic. I'm about 170cm and prepreg was about 60kg. I'm now about 68kg.... yep, still got a bit to lose! We were talking about another couple we know where one of them is pretty buffed and the other not buffed at all and DH said to me, not to worry that he wouldn't get too buffed. I said, what do you mean? He said, well I don't want to make you feel bad. Sorry, I said, I don't get you. So he said... well now that you're a real chubba I don't want to get too buffed and make you feel bad! WTF!!!! He wasn't even joking, he was just being really matter of fact about it. He still doesn't even understand why I am upset as to him he was simply stating the facts. I said, I've just had a baby you idiot!!!!!! Way to make me feel good. I was trying not to even think about my weight at the moment as I really tried to take it easy for the first 6 weeks seeing as I had a c-section so have not gotten back into exercise yet. As I've said above, men really don't think sometimes!

Hi Boobma, Rach x2, DM, Jellybean (you've been MIA!), Tammie, Shades and everyone else.

Hope everyone has an awesome Christmas.

Love Fi xxx