ahhhh :( I have had to give Luke panadol :( he is so upset and not happy or himself at all, so am putting it down to the needles, so first dose of medicine a 7 weeks 4 days :(
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ahhhh :( I have had to give Luke panadol :( he is so upset and not happy or himself at all, so am putting it down to the needles, so first dose of medicine a 7 weeks 4 days :(
Yep I just gave my little girl a dose of panadol too :cry:
Ldies try using a brand called, Braun. Its a more natural approch to pain relief if you really dont want to give panadol ;)
Im ****ting myself about them tomorrow:( I cry if my girls do...
I normally dont give anything if I can avoid it DM, even natural products excpet infants friend, but he was really distressed :( and as I live in a nothing town panadol was all I had :(, but I will google that and see what it is thanks
fi sorry Leila seems the same :comfort: its not fun hey
good luck tomorrow LJ and DM :)
:hug: To everyone who had needles today..we dont get ours till 8 weeks so a few weeks yet!
I will bbl for personals i better go sleep! :hug: xxxx
fi: Thanks :) i know i need to bring things up when he;s in a good mood, but i dont want to start anything so i leave it. but e will be having a long talk when he gets home on thursday.
Fi and Rach75 big :hug: to you and yours, i gave Miss A some panadol before i took her, next time i will def feed while getting it done, she was a bit stroppy for 2 days after but all good now :)
and Good luck to Kass, and im sure there was someone else having some done tomorrow...
Yeh DH and i will be getting our WC injections when he comes home, tho i got WC early on in my pg (and i must say it is the worst thing i have experienced in my life, id give birth 3 times over before id do that again) the nurse is still pretty sure i should get the injection, but i will check with the Dr first obviously.
ANyway must be off,
talk soon
xx
Give me strength guys, im having a really rough day already..
i wont go into. but geez i just wanna curl up somewhere and dissapear :cry:
xxx
:hug: Oh Stevie please vent here it will probably make you feel better! Wish I lived closer I could come give a real hug! We will ahve to organise a meet up :) xx
thanks guys :)
DM i dont have msn, but we just really need to sort things out first.
but the way its looking at the moment it seems we may be having a break.
i promise when im not feeling so down i will vent here (its the only place i feel that i can be truelly honest anyway :) )
i just need time...
:comfort: Stevie it must be such a difficult time for you. You know that we are all thinking of you and will do anything we can to try and make you feel better. Having a break is not the end of the world and may in fact do you both some good as you will both have the opportunity to reflect on the situation, often in the thick of things you don't get this opportunity. Do what you need to do hun. Look after yourself and your precious little girl :hug:
:comfort: stevie
quick ?? is anyone delaying or partly vaccinating ?? i refused the rota viris one and omg you would think i commited a sin the way the nurse was :wall:
Rach We will be getting all vaccs but not till Flynn is 8 weeks maybe later casue that will be when we are away.
Some people are very pro on each side of the fence so try not to let it worry you...just do what is right for your family :hug:
Stevie hun were here if you need to talk :hug: x
thanks Luke was supposed to have his next week when he would have been 8 1/2 weeks but due to my heart scan being next tues I had them this week as dr surgery is closed from next wed till 2nd week of jan, its just the nurse was liek why why... I've never had anyone say no before :dunno: weird I told her I dont do chicken pox one either and she rolled her eyes :disbeleif:
We had it all done today. I had a MASSIVE chat to my health nurse who is such a wonderful woman. Explained ALOT to me as Im so uneducated on it all.
I decided it was for the best IMO.
I know why I do it, can you tell me why you dont? Such seeing if she neglected to give me some info ;)
Lucy LOVED the taste of it:rolleyes:
rota virus one I dont like as it is a live virus you all have been informed to be extra careful for the nextmonth with poopy nappies, you must make sure to wrap and discard inoutside bin imediatly, wash hands before picking up bub if you can or use sanatising liquid after changing the nappy, the rota virus being a live virus means it is actually in their poop for up to a month so you, hubby, other kids can catch it so be extra careful also it has only been on the market/scheduale for such a short time and when it was first relased in the US market a number of babies got very sick or worse it was then taken off the market and re-released under a different name...dont freak out anyone it has to be safe I know but I dont like it... also as jack doesn't attend daycare we dotn have access to large play facilties etc the chance of luke coming in contact with it is unlikely IYKWIM!!! as for chicken pox well I could go on about it for ages, one it doesn't last you need to revaccinate genrally children getting chicken pox isn't so bad, even when Iwas a kid if someone had chicken pox parent swould send their kids to play :lol: anyway in Japan where they have been doing chicken pox vaccination for 25 odd yrs a incredible amount of vaccinated young acdults in teens early 20's are getting shingles which used to be a old persons disease anf you had to have had chicken pox to get it, so until they find out why these young people who haven't had chicken pox but were vaccinated against are getting shingle I wont touch it with a 10 foot pole.... again this is my opinion and not a medical opinion, I will probably get both boys the chicken pox vaccination that you get in yr 8 if they haven't had it by then
HTH to explain what I mean... I vaccinate for everything else though!!!!!!!
Got cha ;) MCHN did explain about there poos. But she said anyone going through chemo etc should be careful. Just to make sure Ill make us all careful ;)
Chicken pox one is a tough one though. I got for Annabelle but that was before I started questioning all of this. Not really changing my mind but I think its good that we're all educated on it so we can make an educated decision:)
yes be extra careful with nappies anyone is at risk I would be at risk due to this heart problem I have make me more prone to getting sick etc...but I know some people who what not imformed about the nappies at all and were quite shocked to learn ... I think its great we have access to things now and dont have to take what the medical profession tell us as gosple, mind you my IL's thinkI am a idiot and apparently rota virus is a new thing the fact I had it when I was 5 and spent time in hospital... MIL told me that must have been fo rsomething else :rolleyes:
Love how the Ils think they know it all. Mine finally get I do things MY way and if ill listen to anyone it'll be MY family, not theres.
When I fot the rota done with Annabelle it was the every baby born after April 07 that started getting it so its VERY new! I wasn't told ANYTHING about nappies etc.
Its fine they want us to do all these vax but I do think they need to tell the hole truth before we choose, to do it or not to do it. Instead of having to do out own damn research!
my IL's are idiot :lol: Jase has issues with my mum so we are even ... but I have rules big time no-one feeds my kids excpet Jase and me, Jase agreed whole heartedly with me on this with Jack but has questioned me a number of times with Luke but I am sticking to my guns ... its my job I'm the mum :)...
actually while I am on a roll those of us with #2 do you find your hubby/partners are different this time round sought of disinterested in bubs Jase is driving me batty he does nothinig fo r Luke unless I ask... with Jack he did feeds galore always did his bath... changed his nappy played with him happy to hold, this time round I practically have to throw luke at him fo rhim to do anything he has done maybe 1/2 dozen feeds all up I have done every other one... he has only done one night feed but that doesn't bother me so much as he works out of the home... he has bathed him once I think and then it was me asking can you bath luke ... I still had to dress him, he will change him if he is whingy and I say he might be wet do you want to check...
anyway just wondering if they seem different this time round???
Rach- Empty some inbox Im trying to send you a PM;)
Ummm well at 1st Clint was alot more unhelpful then he ever was with Annabelle. Now he's fine with Lucy but I do agree not as focused at 1st. I think maybe because they're so tiny. Im really not sure. Im glad he snapped out of it though was driving me nuts! I think it was because they get used to the older ones doing it for themselves pretty much now and they had to get back into doing everything for a little human again.
done..
he has actually said he isn't bonding the same he said it while i was pg as well :(
damn well better :lol: i sometimes think he finds it hard as we decided last december jack was it then bam luke was a very big sursprise also it was a very easy pg no dramas no scariness.. he has said jack always will be extremely special due to nearly losing him during pg and then again at birth...
After losing your little girl then having trouble with Jack he will always be speacial to you :) But Dh really does need to bond with Luke, you dont want him feeling it as he get solder kwim?
Maybe leave Luke with Dh for a few hours while you and Jack go do something. Swimming always bonds father and child?
Jase doesn't swim and our local public pool is closed for repairs till god knows when, I have tried that but ... oh I dont know this is the first time I have said anything outloud as such.. its disappointing foe both of us, I did notice he has tried a bit more the last few days, so hopefully this is the start
Firstly - we love you Stevie so please stay strong! I know we barely know you, but we can all tell how much you love A and how courageous you are for wanting to work everything out with DH. Huge hugs and kisses to you and A.
OMG all the discussion re injections is slot to think about... E is due for his in a week and I had not questioned getting them, but now I am really considering....Esp the rota virus.
Afm, we went to paeds dr on Monday for 6 week check. Bub is now 5.42kg and 58cm. Dr said this was good for length and he has a really good shape (whatever that means!). All good and he also suggested I give solids at 4mths not 6 and introduce new foods each day if I wish.... All sounds good to me.
One day I will have to put a photo on my ticker... Just need to work out how.....
XoXo.
Well the health nurse is REALLY happy with Lucy:) She's super impressed with my full cream milk which is keeping Lucy nice and 'healthy' haha
She's now 11lb 40z 58com long:) She was born at 7lb 11oz if that gives you an idea;)
Tammie- Eli sounds like he's doing so well! We dont see much of you, what do you get up to? Funny with solids everyone has a different take on it. I intorduced them at 6months for Annabelle but she wasn't interested till about 10months!
Well ladies tell me, Im interested. Who does playgroups etc?
tammie all ican say is research i do all the vaccines just not rota virus and chicken pox as they are live virus vaccines
can i ask what reasoning your dr gave to early solids ???
i have a small mums group from when jack was born there are only 5 of us now 4 regulars we have all had 2nd bubs we try to catch up once amth or so ... as for playgroup i started going with jack this year due to m/s didn't go as often as i would have liked its finished now till late jan so guess we will start going again then
Stevie - heheh she is my little, except she poo's and eats :lol: Though in saying that, Lilli was 5mths 1wk when she passed, and i had weighed 3 days prior to it, she just hit 6kg then :( hence why i get so worried about little bubs.
Also :comfort: I hope yu and DH ended up having a better day yesterday. But know that we are here for you, and yep VENT AWAY!!
DD - Im part of a mummy's group. We all met via Belly Belly :dance: on the local members thread. We now meet every wednesday, and we each take a turn of picking a spot cause we from all over newcastle. I love my mummies!!!
Tammie - Yep they 4mths is the reccommended time you now can start solids, pending child of course. I started Lilli at 4mths, cause the naughty girl didn't like her milk, but :o she loved her food!!! Though in saying that, my friends little boy was almost 7mths before he would eat solids. S once again, each bubs is different.
Rach - Good on you for speaking up about your choice. Though i also reasearched and my choice was to have them all done. As for hubby, mines the opposite. He was very standoish at first with Ethan, he got better with Lilli, now he's great . But could be just you DH adjusting to hun.
Fi- yay im looking forward to tomorrow :dance:
A big :hello: to everyone else. Of to take Evangeline to the sleep apneia doctor today. I think he books us in today to get the actual test done, but ill inform you all when i get back.
thanks
well after finally saying something about Jase low and behold he interacted greatly with Luke last night, still didn't feed or bath him but he did cuddle, comfort him etc its a start... I am wondering if it has something to do with my rule about no-one else feeding the boys bottles, as I said he back me 100% with Jack when I did this but with Luke he said he would then the other week I complained about his mum having a go at me for not letting them feed Luke his bottles, and :shakehead: he said he thinks I am being selfish for not letting them, so I wonder if the not feeding thing is so I get tired of it and will willingly let someone else do a feed :shakehead:stoopid man if he thinks this way cause nothing will change my mind on this :lol:
well we are off to Agnes this arvie so Jase can mow the block fun times, then again maybe I can do the mowing and he can care for the boys :think:3hrs or so on the ride on, with only MP3 to listens too no baby crying no annoying 3 yr old chatter oh me thinks thats a plan :lol:
Hello everyone :)
Thankd for worrying about me guys :) it makes me feel so loved :grouphug:
DH and i got alot sorted out yesterday, he comes home this afternoon so we will do some more talking tonight (its hard to have a serious discussion over the phone)
To cut a long story short, my mother has never really been there, i left home when i was 16 and she's been in and out of my life since (now that i have a daughter of my own i realise how sad this is coz theres not a thing that could keep me away, i would do anything possible to sort our problems out) anyway just before christmas last year i got back in contact with her after nearly 3 years of not speaking, DH wasnt fond of this but he gave in and let me see her. after i fell pg my mum was so excited and couldnt wait to be a nan, she told me she feared DH would try and not let her see our baby, stupid me promised i wouldnt let him. then when i was about 30 weeks pg and told me there is no way our baby is going to have anything to do with my mum (my mum is not perfect, she used to smoke weed and like i said kinda kicked me out when i was 16 [i say 'kinda' coz she gave me an ultimadum (sp?) who does that to a 16 year old who is over there mothers crap?lol] and then just after i i stopped seeign her last time if she seen me on the street she would call me a sl*t and all other kinds of names infront of everyone) so this is why DH didnt want me to see her but he soon realised he couldnt stop me, but when it comes to our daughter he has every right (like i do) to make a decision like that.
So back to past of the reason of our fighting, ever since i had Miss A ive been hounding him to let me see her with Alissa ( i should add that i told her i couldnt have anything to do with her anymore (via SMS :wall: i know shoot me ok) because i knew i didnt have the heart to tell her she couldnt see her grandbaby, so i figured if i stepped out of her life completely this would hurt too but not as much as not being able to see her grandbaby. i know this all sounds very stupid but she knows how DH feels about her so im betting she knew it was coming. at the time i was pg and irrational and i couldnt see past the hurt i would cause her not letting her see Alissa.
anyway he finally gave in and said yes i could take Alissa to see her (after much fighting about it he decided this on Tuesday night) but then i found an email to my older sister from my mum saying (not the exact words coz i cant remember lol) "due to my lung condition i had a very severe collapse just recently more tests have shown that i now have a severe heart condition, i dont have as long as i would like. Please dont tell Nan or Stevie because i dont want one to worry and its none of the others business." this is when i realised she doesnt want to see me and i feel so bad that ive put DH through all of this, selfish me wasnt thinking if her pain, i was thinking of the selfish guilt i was feeling. nan knows about the condition, i had no idea, i didnt even know she had a lung condition, im the one whos none of my business.
I feel so bad and self centred for putting DH through this, Jon and Alissa are the most important things in my life not a woman who says she's my mother but who has walked away numerous times in my life. This made me see that i shouldnt dwell on the past, i should be grateful for the loving family i have now, my IL's are more family to me than my own ever was.
Thanks for listening to me rave on about it. I just thought you guys might need some insight.
You ladies are all so awesome, i wouldnt have got through being pg and having my first baby and all this stuff now if it wasnt for you all :grouphug: I love you all xxx
Re: the vax i had NO IDEA about that rota virus no one told me to be super careful about pooey nappies, even though i do wash my hands carefully after every change, i just put the nappies in a nappy bucket, i will from now on be taking them to the outside bin. this really annoys me, im not mad that i got the vax coz i would have anyway, im just ****y that no one gave me this info. Thanks for bringing this to my attention rach xxx
anyway i have to be off, house work is waiting for me xxx
DH gets home tonight so hopefuly we'll have it all sorted out, again you guys have no idea how much i appreciate all your support xxx
:hug: we have had some issues with my mum too, not the same as yours but problems to the point jase wont visit, if we go to Rocky we stay somewhere else and I get dropped off at mums, is starting to jerk me around trying to choose :hug: as I said I know its not the same but I feel for you...
as for rota virus people dont get told, they will fob you off if you bring it up as well, I did a lot of research into when jack was a bub... but it certainly pays to be extra careful
morning girls, well what a day i had yesterday :wall: I go to the sleep apneia doctor. This tupid man the asks me "so what brings you here today" grrrr he had the referal right there in front of him. So i then had to explain what happened to Lilli. After that i then had to go and do a resusation course :( Well they couldhave told me earlier. On the bed is this little baby doll that i have to give CPR to. First the lady says "now imagine you walk into the room and your child is not breathing" umm well hello i don't need to imagine ive been there. Anyway then the tears started, it was one very emtional day.
Stevie - :hug: aww hun, you poor thing. Im glad you were able to sort things out with DH and now move on with your life. It must have been so hard for you. I can totally understand that you wanted to see your mum, and im sorry to hear that she is sick.
:hug: Oh Rach hun that must have been awful :hug:
Steveie darling :hug: Hope you guys can work through everyhitng..DH and I have issues when it comes to his parents and I have said they wont be meeting Flynn...they met DS1 when he was 3 months and have never visited again..I can see your DH argument too, I know my dh loves his family but they continue to hurt him and I wont allow it :hug: But he is a big boy too so if he wants to see them I let him..I just dont go and neither do the kids.
Rach75 wow I never new that about teh rotaviris one..I knew it was a live vaccs but never knew about being super careful..will chat to the dr and make sure he knows lol!
Re the DH interaction with ds2 I feel he is about the same..cant so the same for me though..i am still feeling a little disconnected form hijm...I spose it is because I have a 2 yr old running around too so its easy for me to put Flynn in the swing while i do everything..but I never had the instant love connection wiht Flynn like I did Myles? I feel awful and I feel like i am neglecting him..which i know I am not...maybe its the GD issue too?
Sorry I rambled a bit then :redface:
Kass how are you going hun? I think about you heaps :hug:
Well better go I can hear DS 1 in the toilet making a mess grrrr lol!
xxx
Good morning!
I'll try with some personals (hopefully Eli stays sleeping!)...
DM - i am really slack for not visiting in here more often... i don't get up to anything too exciting i just seem to go out each day. I'm 26 and before having this time off work, the longest holiday i ever had was 5 weeks to go to the States. I basically finished school and went to uni F/T for 5 years then started working and have never taken a break. Now that i am on a break i am just enjoying catching up with friends, lunch dates, coffee etc.... i think the real issue is that i don't like my own company so i find other people to spend my days with! But i love being a mum and figure i may as well go to lots of places now while Eli is a good sleeper and doesn't run around or get too grumpy about being out.
Rach's - apparently the recommendation for solids at 4 mths is going back to old school ideas. Many years ago solids used to be given at 4 mths and this has some benefits in terms of allergy identification - the research has been that delayed introduction of variety of foods is interfering with immune development and is causing babies/kids to have more food intolerances than previously. I have attached a link for a short article i found on this, it just reconfirmed what the dr said to me though - can start at 4 months and introduce a new food each day. He also suggested i start with vegies first.
The Solids Controversy
AFM, i caved on wednesday and gave Eli a dummy when he had a tummy ache and wouldn't settle - i didn't want to feed because that would make it worse but the sucking motion was producing more saliva so it settled him quite quickly and then i took the dummy out. I feel bad for giving him a dummy because it was something i didn't want to do (i had a dummy and my mum had a terrible time trying to get it off me....) but i have found life so much easier giving him a dummy on occasion during the day instead of carrying him around (not to mention cooler!). I hdo have 'dummy rules' though so he doesn't get a dummy to go to sleep or just for the fun of it etc... because of my rules DH is too scared to give him the dummy in case he does it at the wrong time, so i am the 'dummy controller' - LOL.
Hmmm, i can hear Eli starting to cry - gtg!