Babies born October 1st - 15th 2008 #4

**[M]umma[M]ia** · January 14th, 2009, 08:43 AM

Yep. Mia was on AR formula but it played havic with her colic coz it was so heavy she couldnt bring up her wind. Didint help the spewing.. it was just thicker. Yeh im not into putting farex in her bottle. The last bit of farex i tried with her ended up being sprayed everywhere in the house. Ive tried everything u could imagine trust me.

I thought she might be Lactose Intolerant but she spews water too.

**1MOREPLZ** · January 14th, 2009, 08:48 AM

hmmm OK....
maybe you will get some answers when you see the paed... fingers crossed for you hun!!

**PinkPalace** · January 14th, 2009, 09:12 AM

Hollye - pop onto msn later if you want to chat ok?
dont want to post on here but we can talk through the milk/intolerance things.

Sami - dont hide honey. THe thing is theories changed every few years regarding allergies and intolerances. So you do what you feel is best and right for you.

I am having a quiet one today girls. DD is at FDC and DS is alseep so going to do some housework and relax .

**SamiH** · January 14th, 2009, 09:29 AM

Sam - yeh her weight seems to be ok. She was weighed 3 weeks ago and she was 5.2 kilos (3.5 born) and they said shes average just petite?? shes still abit behind on the height which is odd coz me and DP are both 6ft! she had a bottle this morning (70mls) and she would have chucked up about 50ml by the time she was finished. It was everywhere! fountains and fountains. Then she screamed for an hour

I just checked Giselle's book ... she was born same as Mia really - 3.57kg - at 11 wks she was 4.86kg and 13 wks 5.085kg - so steady but little gains. I used to take towels out with me instead of bibs to clean up her spew. However, you have said she is screaming, and Giselle never had that - was always a happy chucker - not reflux etc?? I always thought there was no way she could be keeping anything inside her with all the spew ..... it is awful and it stinks!!! I soooo feel for you hun - it sucks!

**[M]umma[M]ia** · January 14th, 2009, 10:18 AM

pead appointment next tuesday at 4:30pm... and $250 bucks later.. *sigh* oh well at least i should get some answers.

**1MOREPLZ** · January 14th, 2009, 10:19 AM

hollye...worth the $$$ i hope you get some answers...

**Moi** · January 14th, 2009, 11:12 AM

PP - Thanks for the present suggestions. I like the idea of getting drawing/paint materials.

katones - It's so great that Jack is doing much better on the goat's milk.

And I love the gown.

amy - :hugs: Hope things are better today.

belfie - Sorry to hear that you need an op. Hope it all goes well. And I hope X is better soon! Poor guy. :hugs:

Hollye - :hugs: That's great that you are seeking a second opinion if you're not happy with the first opinion. Hopefully the paed can come up with something. But as for weight gains Mia is doing great compared to Maya and my MCHN isn't worried about Maya at all. She was born 4 kg and was weighed today and at 3 months she's 5 kg! So it's taken her 3 months to put on 1 kg! She doesn't spew much so I don't know why her gains are always so small!? Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that to me Mia's weight sounds fine. But the screaming after eating must be hard and I hope the paed can find a solution for that.

Georgi - Hope the operation goes well and you're not in too much pain afterwards. :hugs:

On starting solids: I don't have an opinion but during a mother's group session our MCHN mentioned the study that katones is talking about and said that they now think solids can be started anywhere between 4 and 6 months. And they are looking at the correlation between starting solids later and allergies.

I do agree with what Sami is saying though. That so much of our food nowadays is so processed! That can't be good for us or babies!

I had a nice day at my mothers yesterday. The drive there was OK and I even managed to get Maya to have a couple of naps. But the drive home was absolutely horrible. It's about an hour's drive - a bit longer maybe. And about 10 minutes after I left Maya starting crying. Then a few minutes after that she started absolutely screaming. And I had no idea what to do! I'd just fed and changed her so I knew she couldn't be hungry. And she screamed and screamed and screamed all the way home for an hour!!! I kept thinking maybe I should stop and calm her down but often when I stop I can calm her and then she'll just start up her crying again as soon as I get her back in the car. So I decided to just keep heading home and I kept thinking 'surely she'll stop soon!' Nope she screamed the whole way. And when there was about 10 minutes to go I finally broke down in tears. I just couldn't take it any more. And I was so angry too so I started yelling at her to shut up! And now I feel so crap for getting so angry at her and for being so helpless and not knowing what to do.

It also makes me never want to drive anywhere with her again! Sorry I know it's not as bad as ops and sick babies, but an hour of screaming while being stuck in a car just really did my head in!

**belfie** · January 14th, 2009, 11:15 AM

oh good luck Holly - and wow, that's expensive. I think ours was only $100 - but maybe that's cos it was a follow-up visit? Anyways, I hope you get some good answers and help

**1MOREPLZ** · January 14th, 2009, 12:08 PM

i too was going to say that was steep $$ for seeing the paed..but thought i wil just shut up.... both paeds i see bulk bill so lucky there

Tanya..hun i know that feeling of a screamer in the car!!!! Jack still hates the car unless someone is sitting in the back talking to him OR i feed him Just before we go and he is asleep/grogy....

just thought i would share this piccie of Jack in3 of his new covers...he didn't want to play dress ups anymore (as you can see in one of the pics) so couldn't get a pic of the 2 other covers
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...hp?photo=12185

**[M]umma[M]ia** · January 14th, 2009, 12:15 PM

no bulk billing here but they said i will get about $200 back from medicare.

**1MOREPLZ** · January 14th, 2009, 12:21 PM

gotta suck!!!!! $200 is better than nothing....atleast you will be getting up there with your threshold for this year...(medicare)

**SamiH** · January 14th, 2009, 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=*Tanya*;1604158 Sorry I know it's not as bad as ops and sick babies, but an hour of screaming while being stuck in a car just really did my head in!

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Oh Tanya - you are wrong mate - a screaming baby in the car is torture, it raises the blood pressure, makes you lose concentration, you feel hot - and if in traffic, nothing you can do about it! I think you are a marvel lasting for an hour - would of taken me 4 hours to get home

I have a little helper with school holidays who entertains Zander in the backseat and he just loves it. Maybe I should rent him out?

**amy_o** · January 14th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Still not a great day here although better. Went in and had major long appointment with my pychologist/case managere. He suggested that I need to find a balance and some me time (dah) I also need to get over the obsesion of being Bethanys sole care giver. Although at the moment with the hours DH works I am the sole care giver!! I need to have a long talk to DH tonight about that I resent that he comes home from work and wants to relax when I need him to take some of the care tasks. Not so I can relax but so I can have a break!! I also need to work on leaving Bethany with someone be it DH or someone else for a bit each fortnight and work up from there. Basically he did most the talking I did the crying and nodding, yes I know I need to do these things but how?? I think I am going to have to over come my fear of my MIL and ask her to help. She is never going to offer I can see that now (she is one of those who wants to be asked not offer...don't get me started) I have waited 3 months for the offer. Its not going to come. But I just can't get my head around leaving Bethany with her. My MIL has spent so little time with her I am not even sure if she can give a bottle (ok I know that is dumb but we know there is a technique particularly if you don't want a baby full of wind at the end) I know she doens't know how to use disposiables....sighhhh what do I do?? I have friends I can call who can do this and they do know how to give bottles and change nappies. Its tough. I was thinking of maybe inviting MIL to spend some time with us so she could see Bethany's routine and things and then after a few goes of that see how I feel about leaving her. Is that mean though like a trial??

**1MOREPLZ** · January 14th, 2009, 05:05 PM

hugs Amy_o!!!! thinking of you hun......

**SamiH** · January 14th, 2009, 05:34 PM

amy - i would just like to say that most of the things you mention, I have also felt - I settle Zander all the time so it is quicker if i do it - DH has NEVER got up during the night, he has NEVER put Zander to bed at night time, and only during the day probably as many times as you have fingers. DH travels for on average 2 nights away from home per week, which i 3 full days really - I too am the sole caregiver. I am sure your case mgr was pointing things out you already know, just like I know too - but knowing you have to let go, and actually letting go are hard. But why do we have to? My DH works a full job and then comes home to a crazy house - he might want some peace too - so it is about balance really. He does bath and bedtime story with the other 2 whilst I b/f and put Z to bed.

My MIL had 5 kids, but I wouldn't leave Z with her at the moment either cos he has no idea who she is - but they live interstate so different story. My bestie here had my other two on SUnday for our anniversary lunch - she offered to take Zander too and I express EBM - I was not comfortable with this - the what ifs he didn't take the bottle, and he is little and no reason why he couldn't come with us. Also I feel guilty for burdening someone else with my kids - that comes from having no family here to help - so even though lunch was lovely, I felt like I was rushing to get home to "relieve" her, but I know she didn't care what time we got back

I just want to assure you hun that it is not because you have a medical condition that you feel this way.

DUnno if that helps or not ...... oh well you know more about me now