kuraiza - Zander goes to bed relatively early - normally anywhere between 7pm and 8pm - but last night was up and down for 90 mins cos he would start screaming - which he has never done, I am more convinced teeth now. That is the routine I have gotten him into to coincide with my other two - I dont particularly want to get the other two into bed, then still be up for 2 hours with Zander - definitely no me/us time then!

Dream feed doesnt work here, Zander either just purses his lips, or wakes fully and is difficult to settle. He fed last night at 3am but with his probs feeding the last few days i am fine with that - he then slept until 7.30 and I have put him back down with some Bonjela now!

Amanda - go to doc - my advice is get the anti's anyway - as kuraiza said - once the chills and shakes set in, ohmy - very scary and you won't be able to look after your kids - you will need your DH or someone else responsible around - first time I had it was this time b/f too and it was terribly frightening - i cant recall feeling so out of it and sick - so a couple of weeks ago when i got a hot patch etc, thats why i went straight to docs and got antis!

Zander woke at 2am but settled with a brief pat, and as i said fed at 3am - i did give him paracetomal at about 8pm though when we had tried to put him down twice already - and he still took 45 mins after that to sleep - his gums this morning look a bit more mushy - but poor fella clocked himself in the head with a toy he was shaking all over the place - so hard to tell if before bed crying was head or mouth lol.