Babies Born October 1st ~ 15th 2008

[PinkPalace]

When is it ok to start controlled crying?

[AmandaJ]

Pink sorry to say they usually say after 6mths, is Ethan still not settling? Big

hugs xoxo

[Moi]

kuraiza - Do you have an electric breast pump? I have a manual one, so I'd find it too hard to bf and express at the same time. Now I'm wondering if I should get an electric one.

I bought some formula today. I really hate the idea of giving Maya formula, but I have something to go to on Saturday night (that I can't take Maya to) and I just cannot express enough milk to test run a feed and then have a feed ready for Saturday. I just bought a tiny box of already made up formula to see if she'll actually take it.

Is anyone getting their OB a thank you gift? If so what are you getting them? I've been trying to decide whether to get my OB something. I feel so grateful that she delivered my Maya safe and well - I guess I feel it more so cos she did the c/s. Even though I am also aware it's her job!

[SunnyRain]

Itsme: No I have a manual pump. I find it really had too, but I sit on a cushion on the floor and and rest Jude down between my legs and the pump rests on my thigh and I can kind of balance it. It's not easy.

I think my Ob made enough money from me, I hadn't considered buying a gift. Sure I liked him, but a gift seems too much.

Pink: Controlled crying is very controversial and most definitely doesn't apply to a young baby. Please talk to your doctor or nurse about settling your baby, I know a crying baby can do your head in but they cry for a reason and it could be medical.

[Georgi]

ITSME I would never consider getting my Ob a gift. I think they get paid extremely well & seeing the bub they just delivered is their gift. Just my opinion

PINK I use a little control crying now. Byron doesn't go to sleep without a fight. I sit next to his cot, and pat his chest while whispering shhh shh shh. Sometimes he absolutely howls, but it's normally just before he dozes off. Most times he not crying for long. If I think he's getting too worked up, I pick him up, pat his back until he settles a little, then put him straight back down again. I find his cry eases then the pating on the chest (well the arms really cause they're wrapped in front of him) will get him completely settled. Gee, I hope that makes sense. I think some babies are crying babies more than others & if your baby is one of them, then a little control crying is ok as long as you are there re assuring them.

KURAIZA I'm glad you enjoyed your exercise time. It does make you feel like there is some fun time. Byron doesn't settle when he's out of the house either. He's just a home body. It's hard to take him anywhere cause he won't sleep well while out. I also thought you might be interested.... Another member of BB is organising a walking group on Monday's at 8am starting at North Burleigh club. I got an sms about it today. I'm going for sure. Let me know if you wanna join in & I can pm you my mobile number

KYLIE I saw the pics of Logan on your FB. He is so adorable

AMANDA I hope you're enjoying your new bub. I bet your house is one crazy place

I'm enjoying spending time with my nieces. They love their cousin. The 3 year old was embarrassed when she saw me feeding Byron as all my sisters girls were bottle fed. It was so funny to see the look on her face. She was so surprised. She's getting use to it though. I told her that her mummy had milk in her boobies too, she just put it in the bottle to give to her & her sisters. She says Byron has a ding dong. So cute.

[belfie]

oh that's such a good question re the obs. I kinda wondered the same thing. Then decided I've paid him enough () but now reading this, I'm wondering again. I see him on Weds for my follow-up... so I've one day to decide!

I went to see a physio today who specialises in pelvic floor & all that kinda stuff. Was really fascinating to get an assessment of how well my PF muscles are (not) working (ha!), and she's given me some specific exercises. I was really pleased I went (I was also going to further investigate prolapse stuff too, so i had lotsa motivation). God, that's just reminded me that i haven't done the exercises since getting home!

X has been a very snacky boy this evening but i think he's finally got enough in his belly to snooze for a bit longer. I think he distracted the physio at our appt cos he snored & snorted loudly thru the entire appt and it kept cracking her up!

Georgi -

She says Byron has a ding dong

OMG what a crack-up!

Itsme - honestly I reckon a little bit of formula really won't hurt - she's getting like 99.9% breastmilk which will be doing great for her. (ok so I might be biased, as X is probably on 90% breastmilk & 10% formula - so I have to be ok with it).

oh and thanks for the replies about the poos - that's good to hear. He still hasn't gone (and he's pretty happy still) so I reckon it's gonna be an absolute corker when it hits! I think I'm gettin' scared!!! Plus he's such a guzzly boy, he took nearly 200ml the other day... it's gotta go somewhere eventually! We're currently having a "break" from BF'ing - it's doing me wonders... i"m sooo much more relaxed (he's having EBM). Just gotta get my LC back and we'll get back on the wagon in a few days.

Kylie - totally agree re Logan, such a spunky little cutiepie!

Cheers,
Belfie.

[SamiH]

Well another night of 2am feed and then 6.30 - fingers crossed for this routine, I can live with that!

I have woken with a lovely red allergic conjunctivitis eye this morning - damn it! Looks like i will be wearing sunnies in the shops today too ....

belfie - I can't believe Xander took 200mls! Mind you I have no idea really how much my boy takes apart from the EBM bottle before bed - which he seems to average around 80mls before he gets too tired and that's it. I can't even express 200mls in one sitting yet either ....

Georgi - I resettle Zander like you do with Byron, he usually gets very dopey in my arms before I put him in the cot first, but after that I shhhh sshhhh quietly and give him a little pat and he usually will settle and doesn't often scream - if he does scream I will pick him back up for cuddles and start again .... funny how you get to learn their cues and whether they are really upset (pain ec) or just so damn tired they don't know what to do with themselves!

Itsme - what about storing the 40ml lots you can get off for one bottle? You can add breastmilk at same temperature etc so if you expressed 4 x 40mls over 2 days, there would be two feeds (roughly) ... do what you have to and as belfie said, try not to feel bad about it, but I know it is hard cos I am the same, Zander hasn't had any formula yet either (but I do have the tetra packs in the cupboard and some S26 sticks for any just in case emergencies ...

Right, off to do some errands whilst DD in care today Boring, Medicare, blood test to check my iron levels after the dropped so much after birth, might squeeze a coffee in the sun in somewhere ....

[PinkPalace]

We did controlled crying with DD and it was wonderful - only tooka few nights and then all we had to do were put her in her cot and walk out and she would self settle - just cant remember when i started it!!

Well DS woke at 10,1,3,430 and 6am... mmmm is that better than last night lol. who the hell knows!

[1MOREPLZ]

well i did NOT know about this thread.....

now i am here let the party start joking.....

[[M]umma[M]ia]

party? where?? babysitter included? vodka? lol.. oh dont i wish!

mayb a party AT a childcare centre.. we could have fairy bread!

[1MOREPLZ]

hmmmm yes yes yes..I love fairy bread!!!!

i stopped giving Jack the Infacol for his Colic.. and got the Brauer natural one.. and after 2 doses he is VERY settled.. and has settled himself to sleep in his bassinette

[SamiH]

Welcome katones

Yeah there are a few of us that snuck in from late September thread - belfie, curl and I - cos there were only the 3 of us in the thread.

More the merrier I say ....

Re : infacol - I have been using it for Zander for the 4pm feeds until morning feeds cos he gets wind then .... with the Brauer one do you only use it at feeds, or is it one you have to give to them all day a few drops at a time etc - and which one? the stomach relief or colic one ? Heck if it works for you I might try that instead too - only been using it for 10 days but it does seem to have helped Zander settle overnights.

[1MOREPLZ]

I found when i was using the Infacol Jacks poos went back to being yellow water!!! we shall see what his poos are like with the Brauer one.. It said to give 1ml every 1/2hr for 4 doses (we only got to 2 then he was asleep) then every 4hourly....suppose he shall have another dose in 2 1/2 hrs....see how we go...

i must admit i am a lazy mum!!! i should settle him in his bassinet at nights but i just put him in bed with me and he sleeps!! am going to try (if he isn't screaming!!) to get him back into his bassinet at night... because when we buy the new cot i want him to sleep in that!!!

[Moi]

Thought I'd have some down time online before going to bed.. Maya has been awake for hours.. and has finally gone down for a sleep!

Thanks for your replies about getting OB a present. I also think I have already paid a lot. Now I think I will just get her a thank you card.

Oh and I tried feeding her just 20 mls of formula to see if she'd take a bottle and also to see if she would drink formula. And she did drink it which is a relief. So it means I should be able to go out on Saturday night. Though I imagine it's going to be very hard to leave her for a few hours!

Hi Katones!

SamiH - I can't get 40 mls of expressed milk. I can only manage at the most 20 mls and most of the time I can get nothing. Now I have 60 mls in the freezer, but from my calculation Maya would be having 120 mls a feed?! Not sure if that's right. So I only have half a feed saved up. Hope your eye clears up soon!!

Anyway that's all I can manage for now.. I'm really tired now.

[SamiH]

Itsme - sorry hun I musta got you confused with someone else who posted they can get 40mls (sleepiness does it to you!!) - yeah it is hard to know how much they will take, at least if you have DH prepared with formula there is always more if she happens to be extremely hungry at that time. What's your big event - look forward to the break if you can but I am sure you will worry secretly the whole time

katones - sometimes when I do the 1/2am feed I go to feed in bed - but realise my DD has already crawled in at some stage during my sleep and there is no more room - she is starting to do this alot - must be her settling in with the new bub. I can't fully fall asleep if Zander is in the bed - very aware he is there - and he farts to much anyway

[csab]

HI all,

Sorry no personals atm, but wanted to let you all know that Olivia had her weigh and measure yesterday, and my darling girl has put on some. She still hasnt reached her birth weight of 2380gms yet but getting there slowly but surely. She now weighs 2250gms h/c still 34cm and her length is 46cm. We have the pediatrician appt on Friday so will see how it goes with him. anyway hugs all and take care.

[PinkPalace]

csab - thats great about bubs weight!! she will get there

Kat - on the bruars ethan has the biggest liquid poo-plosions!!!! but is very satisfied afterwards lol

Well ethan woke at a10, 1, 3 , 5 and 7 over night. so we are still on this stupid 2 hrly wakes overnight. THen had a major poo that eventuated into a bath!!! as there was enough there for him to float to china on! And has beena dream all morning... i wonder if i can get him to do a big poo like that at 9pm... then sleep all night like he does all day!

[1MOREPLZ]

well jack slept last night (in bed with me) from 8.30pm til 2.10am then fed/bum changed and slept til 6.30am fed/bum change slept til 9.30am.

he was weighed & measured today....

is now:-
5.04kgs
57.5cms long
38cms head circ.

since discharge from hospital he has put on 1.055kgs