Babies Born September 2006 #107

[Nelle]

Ah you see River doesn't talk, so he can't argue back. I just say 'what? I don't know what you're saying'! Haha.

Any tips on how to encourage him to talk guys? I've always said that if he's not saying anything by 2.5 years then I'll take him to someone who knows about these things. I think he's too stubborn, or laidback.

[shellbell3]

Nelle- Does he have many words? Does he point at things that he wants? You could try giving him 2options for things and let him point to what he wants then try enc him to repeat the word? Sound it out slowly. Maybe talk to your MCHN about it and put his name down for speech therapy? I'm just thnking in advance as waiting lists can be quite lengthy unless you go privately.

Jodi- Best down time I can get from Ash is put Dora on and sit her on her little couch with food.

[Marnikat]

Helen - Your bubbas are gorgeous! You must be one proud mumma! Any ideas as to when they will be home yet? (sorry if u have answered this already)

Nelle - If you aren't worried about his understanding I wouldnt worry to much yet. He will talk when he is ready.

With the day sleeps, Tiana will sleep for others but not at home with me. If I need a break though i put her in her room with the gate closed and make her read books for an hour. At least I know she is resting.

On the same topic, what time does everyone's children go to sleep? I am lucky to have her in bed by 9.30 -10, and that is way to late but I cant seem to get her down any earlier even when I start trying at 7.30 or so.

Sorry for the lack of personals, I only scanned through the posts. I am now part of the full time work and full time mummy land. Still getting used to it!
Tiana is great, we have a hospital check up for her kidney tomorrow and hopefully if it goes well we wont need to go back!

[lilima]

It looks like J has dropped his day sleep too! and I spoke too soon about J not being able to open our doors, as today when I told him it was sleep time, he started howling, then the next thing I know he was out here in the family room!

It is also being terrible with eating. Tomight he had about 4 mouthfuls of spag meat, before he came across a lump of celery and flat out refused to eat any more. So that's it. dinner over. No other option for him. I am taking the hard line now. Honestly he has been such a little $hit today I am ready to give him away, let alone how we will go getting him to bed tonight.
he normally goes to bed at 8 if he has a sleep in the day. No day sleep and he goes at 7, but last night was still crying at 8, as he wanted to get back up.

I feel really mean about dinner. I feel like I am letting him starve. I am not good at leaving him hungry.

Nelle - As I think Shell said, it you want him to see a spath, it is prob best to get the ball rolling now as there is often lengthy waits till you can get in to see someone.

[Freya]

Dont feel mean Meg just put his dinner away in a container incase he asks for food later on and give it to him then. Paed told me once that children will NOT let themselves starve and that missing a dinner or two wont kill them or make us bad mothers. I assume he is eating breakfast and lunch so being harsh on dinner isnt too bad.
We make a rule that if Jett refuses dinner (rare but it does happen) he cannot have anything else but water in his sippy unless he eats his leftover dinner which I put in the fridge. No dessert, no toast, no bikkies zilch. Only takes him one night of it before he's back to eating dinner and then a couple of months later he tries it on again. Sometimes we pretend to give it to bubby and it gets him eating quick smart - nothing like the idea of sharing to scare cranky toddlers lol Little boogers. Ripley on the other hand screams if he doesnt get enough and will often eat Jetts leftovers too, I am hoping he stays that way

Marni, Im a bit of a slack mummy when it comes to bedtime in that Ripley goes down at 8pm (or between 8-8:30pm) and Jett is in his room by 8:30pm. Obviously we have nights where we are slack or out so it can vary. I just cant justify putting them down at 6-7pm when they sleep til 8am or beyond, theyre still getting min 12hrs sleep during the night and we still have some hours left before our bedtime to watch movie etc. Jett still day sleeps but mostly only for 30mins or so. If he refuses to sleep he has to stay and 'rest' in his room for an hour quietly. He is a kid that NEEDS downtime or he burns out and all hell breaks loose.
Our bedtime routine is bath, cuddles, book in bed then nightlight on/lights off. He can play quietly or read but lights remain off and no leaving his room. Most nights he's asleep by 9pm amongst a pile of books and cars but sometimes he pushes it by sneaking out (he can open doors ugh) and making up some imaginary issues like blankie being 'missing' (on his bed) or his sippy being empty (usually half full). We just send him right on back in. Sometimes its easier to let DH deal with it because he's a bit less of a softie than me and when Im tired I would be easily swayed to just let him run amok til he passes out.

Nelle, I wouldnt worry as such but I would prob take him to see a speech pathologist. Paed told me 2yo should have atleast 100 words vocab and speak in 2 word sentences (even the most basic!) so if he does that occasionally he is prob just lazy. Better to be safe than sorry though as the earlier speech impediments are detected the easier they are corrected. Jett talks a mile a min and has since his first word. Ripley on the other hand, what a slacker. Mum and Dad, along with linking screams are about as far as he goes hahahaha He just doesnt care esp as big bro chatters away and Rip struggles to get a word in. I probably should talk to him more and emphasise words to learn but TBH Im so bloody tired right now it suits me to have him quiet and relatively immobile. I dont think I could stand TWO kids chattering non stop from sun up to sun down. My ears would bleed. So enjoy the silence cause Si might be a chatty kathy!

[maz]

Blahh..dont worry about the speech stuff Nelle...you'll be cursing the day you wished he would speak...trust me

Marni - I dont know how you working mumma's do it. it must be such hard work..i take my hat of to you.

Meg - maybe he's jsut feeling crap after you all being sick. hav eyou got him in a bed yet or still a cot? I found that when I was pg with the next baby...the then baby was getting emotional knowing there was a change in the wind so to speak. Take a deep breath babe.

Oh Anna - I wish that i could let mine stay up to sleep in. Its harder when you have to have everyone up by 7.30 in the morning for school and work purposes. MIne are in bed by 7.30 - 8pm the latest.

Hello everyone else...hope your all fending well

I hve the best little guy...he sleeps from 7.30 - 8 inthe morning then again from 11am until 3pm. I dont know what we did to get such a blessign in the form of Mateauz....he is truely wonderful ...He is currently pulling himself up to stand and he walks holding onto the couch. I cant believe how far he's come.

Vyolett.....**** she is insane...she is more like a 12YO at times tellingthe boys off if they are to close, if they dont pick their stuff up but totally ignores strangers or anyone that isnt jed or I. I so cant get over how much she has changed and become a real little girl compared to the boys.

Now question time.....you pg girls...are you doing up nurseries for the new additions??? what special plans have you all got?? come one get me clucky

[lilima]

Hi - Just wanted to say that J is still up, but playing quietly and happily on the floor. J and I had a shower together with the bath crayons, and boy did he do some wonderful creations. I thought coz he was so cranky today we would do something nice together.

Then when we got out he was asking for a bikkie. I said he can have his dinner. so he sat on the couch and DH fed it to him. made a big deal about how good he was. Then I said coz he finished he could have a yoghurt. He happily sat at the table at ate up. Again. More yay's about how good he was. Still not wanting any veggies (bit doesn't know i hide them in most dishes) or much in the way of fresh fruit besides grapes, bananas, and pear (but doesn't know the yummy smoothie is full of everything else!!) Send him to childcare and he will eat whatever in on offer.

Anna - I wish J would sleep till 8. He gets up between 6 and 7. Doesn't really worry me though, asI am now used to it. (this coming from the girl who could think of nothing better than sleeping in till 10 a couple of years ago)


Nelle - Was thinking more about it, and I bet that Riv wil lbe one of those kids that doesn't just say a first word, but comes out with a first sentence.

maz - in regard to the nursery, and I not going OTT, as when I bought J's bedding I got gender neutral so that I could use it again if the next baby was a different sex. We have decided to keep J in the room that he is currently in ( alll out bedrooms are together) as he is happy in there. I might put a few girlie touches to the room though. I have bought her a few new outfits, but have not gone overboard, as my mum tends to do that!!

Still feeling like crap, and it was DH's b'day today. We felt too yuk to even do anything, so we have postponed his birthhday till next week.

[Nelle]

Nelle - Was thinking more about it, and I bet that Riv wil lbe one of those kids that doesn't just say a first word, but comes out with a first sentence.

Ten bucks says it'll be about food.

Seriously, thanks so much for all your thoughts guys, I think also I didn't work too actively on his speech because probably there were good opportunities when I was heavily pregnant with Si, or when Si was newborn. I recently started being really proactive about it, so might just continue up that path for a little longer.

Good idea to postpone your dh's birthday Meg, I really hope you guys are feeling better soon.

[shellbell3]

Nelle- Lol that it'll be bout food! Generally they say boys can take longer to speak, see how he goes and like I said you could always ask your MCHN on anything you could do extra yourself at home.

Meg- they still gastro? Hope you are not getting anything, poor DH being sick on his birthday.
We at one stage had to lay down law with Ash and food, was getting ridiculous that she'd say no to everything. So we did what you did, nothing else, no dessert, we did give her her milk at bedtime. Kept her food aside so if she did feel like it she could have it. Now (and touch wood here) Df and I are amazed at how well she is eating, I don't know if she is going thru a spurt or something but she is eating vegies (if she at least has little bit sauce to dip them in) eats her fruit. I just hope it lasts!

Maz- Sorry no exciting plans for nursery! At moment still our spare room. When Df is off in January we gonna sort it all out set up cot in there and go thru all old clothes. Vy is funny, I can see her being the only girl having all her brothers wrapped round her finger and I bet all 3 of them will always be looking out and protecting her.

Marni- Good luck with the appointment tomor, she seems like she is thriving so hopefully you won't need anymore follow ups for awhile. As for bedtimes we put Ash in prolly just after 7:30, lately she been awake for little while afterwards, I'm thinking cause its so light outside, she'll then generally sleep til 8ish.

I been run down and sick again. I just keep getting colds that last a week, be ok for week then another one, plus have 3 mouth ulcers so know I'm really run down, this bub sucking everything from me. I try eat ok but guess I need more, been trying to force myself to swallow vitamin tablets, have trouble getting them down. Getting Df to do more around the house cause just way too tired.

[Freya]

Im going all out on my nursery Maz, figured I deserve some fun seeing as its sort of same old same old having yet another boy. So Ive got my eye on a colourful Living Textiles cot set on Ebay and Ive bought some cute new clothes. I'll be getting out the baby boxes at chrissy when Dh is on holidays and chucking all the worn out clothes, washing whats useable and adding to it when I have a list of what I need. Ripley is being turfed into his big boy room in the next two months so I can start organising the nursery. Im just so excited to meet him that April cant come fast enough!

[caddie]

Sorry i have been awol! So freaking busy!.lol
Maz i went way ott for my nurseries. I loved the planning and getting things pretty,hence why no more babies but still plenty of things babyish being made. I get to pick up my overlocker tommorow.Im super excite and 930 last night was sorting material out!
As for sleeps,ruby passed out in my arms last night at 6pm. So me was up early this morning. She never had a day sleep and was tired from a bday party. If she does have a nap by accident she goes to bed between 730-8pm. Millana is in bed at 7-730pm and she usually asks to go.
Millana's first word was mum,dad and cho-choc(chocolate) Very food orientated she was,but for junk. Naughty thing!lol
Ruby is generally fab with eating.Will try anything. Im thankful for that because millana only has to look at something and will refuse.Wont even try a nibble.
The only thing my girls do which is super fustrating is sleep issues. They get up far too early and ruby had me up twice last night. Wanting milk. I have started to water it down. I ve also got her some great training pants to start toilet training as she is so so not interested!
Keep well ladies.

[**Helen**]

Maz-thanks, Gabriel came first and then Tallulah 2mins later. I didnt get to hold them for a few days which was really hard.

Thanks to those who have sent PM's I will get back to you ASAP.

TWINS ARE HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Am so excited, but am exhausted will update you all when I can.

Take care everyone.

[Freya]

Yay for being home all together Helen! Hope everyone's being super helpful and pampering you because you definately deserve it!

[Nelle]

Brilliant Helen!! That's so great your babies can be with you!! What size are they now??

River cut his finger today, well, more like scraped the skin off it from 'brick painting' with water...guess he just didn't feel it? Anyone's toddler got some brains they can lend my todder?

[**Helen**]

LOL Nelle Eithan never learns either, he will hurt himself the same way over and over. He has massive banana legs.

Leith has been great, the extra set of hands definantly helps.

[Visitor7]

Glad to hear your babies are home with you Helen
How is everyone settling in?

I've had one of those days today. Nina has finally settled and is watching Play School. She's still trashing the house, but at least she's doing it quietly. And Emily is finally sleeping. I'm at my wits end with Nina constantly going into Emily's room when she's sleeping. She wants to wake her and play with her I think I'm going to have to get a gate or something to put at the door.

nelle - Nina is constantly covered in bruises, skinned knees or cuts. She now has a fascination with bandaids though. Even her dolly's have to have bandaids on when they 'fall' on the floor And this happens quite often during the day. But once the bandaid is on them, she'll put them in her bed to rest, and she'll even shut the door so it's quiet for them

[lilima]

Jodie - Funny about how she wants it to be quiet for the dolly, but not for her sister! It is funny that you mention cuts and bruises, as I was just looking at J's arms thinking how did he get those extra bruises that he has at the moment. He always is doing something.

Nelle - J also loves painting with water outside. He tends to "paint" on the chalkboard though.

Annat - How are you going with the heat and being preg??

Helen - I am so pleased that the babies are home, but you must have your hands absolutely full at the moment.

Caddie - Did you manage to grab an early night with the kids asleep early?

Shell - I hope you are managing to take it easy. I had mum over today who did some housework for me. I had to go to work, but it is nicce to come home to a semi organised house.

Well we thought J was better, but we were wrong. He still seems happy enough, but mum copped 4 lots of the runs from him today, so I guess his tummy is still not right. So dry bikkies and watered down apple juice for him tonight.
I am seeing my obs tomorrow. I am going to have a chat to her about the reoccuring tummy probs in this house. maybe we need to be tested for Giardia??

[Nelle]

Not a bad idea Meg, you guys need some relief from tummy upsets soon! I think you've had more than your fair share!! Hope she can figure something out.