Babies Born September 2007 #10

Hi All,

Well Seaworld was great the boys had a ball and so did I but missed Olivia. They are all sleeping at the moment. We put our christmas tree up on Friday night and the boys and olivia helped it was fun however the boys just keep touching the tree. Oh well may be next year they wont touch it as much but then it will be Olivias turn. lol.
Noni- I hope you a feeling better.
Katie- I am glad you had a wonderful time in sydney.
RE- Housing we only bought our house when the boys were 6 weeks old. DH and I started out with nothing and gradually over 10 years we have collected a lot of stuff. But we still love each other very much and love our kids just as much and all the rest is just material stuff.

Hello to everyone and have a great day

Hey all! I am at the start of a very busy week, so forgive me if I'm not about much or forget personals.

Leanne, LOL at the boys touching the tree. Last year was the first time I didnt' have to constantly tell the kids "NO, don't touch the tree!" and next year it will start again. Glad you all enjoyed seaworld.

Noni, please go and talk to someone hun, even if you just start with your MCHN, she should be able to point you in the right direction. She may also know of some freebie courses/groups you could attend. It wouldn't have to be a mothers group as such, even just a scrapbooking class or something to get you out and about - friendships will come later kwim? And don't ever think you are alone. We may all be separated by distance but we are all here for one another.

LP, I have had a few shoplifting episodes too LOL - either me putting stuff in the pram or the kids when they are a bit older. I even did it the other day with 3 lollypops. I put the beside Alister in the shopping trolley baby seat and clean forgot to pay for them. I always take stuff back and pay for it - my conscience would kill me otherwise.

Queenie, I am really glad that the meds are starting to work. It can take a bit of time to get the *right* treatment so if you feel that she isn't improving any further, ask for a review of her meds.

OK, rundown of my day. Took Erin to the dentist (public School dental clinic) for one filling. Found out she also needs another one. That makes 4 fillings already. Poor kid is going to have shocking teeth I think. Spoke to the dental technician about Lindsay's teeth - he has lost 3 bottom ones (the two middle ones and the one just to the left) but his two middle teeth are taking the space of the 3 baby teeth, so it looks like the 3rd tooth will come up behind them. She said he could have problems with overcrowding (like his Dad and SIL has terrible teeth too) and when he is 9 we should have a better idea of things and to take him to an orthodontist (oh the hip pocket hurts already at the thought of that) All I can say is I am so glad DH has premium health cover through his work.

Alister had a really unsettled morning. From about 4.30am he was really fidgety, not fully awake, but couldn't go back into a deep sleep because of wind. So I put he and his bum trumpet in bed with me thinking that would work, but he was still really fidgety. He is OK now of course :rolleyes:

sherie - the mchn here is useless!! she asked me if i felt confident when i saw her and i said no annd she was like no? well u seem confident to me and just moved on... sorry to hear about all the teeth issues lucky dh has insurance!!!
leanne - glad sea world was fun!
queenie - thats whats happened with the night shift because dp would stay up late to feed her and i could sleep a bit but now i must wake for every feed.. Asha is getting better at sleeping longer but with dp being casual his shifts change and she gets thrown out..
katie - glad your trip was good.. shame about the fat ugly tradies lol
lp - yes i was diagnosed by a phsychiatrist but i suppose he didn't explain it properly :( ive been on heaps of different meds none of them really helpful, when just through the gp i tried zoloft, lexapro,avanza and aropax all of which made me sick, the aropax actually gave me a rash so i was allergic to it.. through the phsyc i tried epilum and another epileptic one starting with t tegratol i think? apparantly thats what they give for bipolar and then finally i was moved onto lithium which just made me feel like a zombie and i had to have blood tests all the time incase it became toxic in my body he also perscibed ativan for anxiety its a tranquilizer that knocks you out because i was at a very low point and was being treated after being actively suicidal and doing some really strange things id rather not go into lol.. after all those i kinda gave up on meds.. i did come good and have managed for a long time on my own but i think atm its just a bit stressful... deffinately not starving myself, just eating healthily, have had a really bad week of binging on crap this week because i am feeling down so idk if i will go to ww this week lol...

hello everyone!!! it sure has been busy in here so i have no hope whatsoeve of doing enough personals...
just wanted to say a special hello to Noni - dont feel you dont have friends my dear - you have plenty in here. i would second what the others have said about joining a mothers group near home, you will meet ppl there, something in common and people only go if they are open to making new friends i would think... a good option to help with the loneliness perhaps? i am sure it isnt easy but i have loved mine so far, it is a highlight of the week. perhaps it is time to spk to someone about how you are feeling? if the mat nurse did not help(which is terrible by the way) maybe your GP again - it seems you get along well with him.
Better go - it is time for a feed!
hope everyone else is well. i will pop back later to write some more but all good at my end.

how do i find out about mothers groups?

I asked my MCHN (the centre is small and they don't have them so I go to a different centre's one) and she put me on the list. They should tell you about them though! You could try calling your local council. be persistent though! Does anyone at ww have any contacts - any other new mums?

Noni - Well my mothers group was organised through the health nurse, but your nurse sounds shocking! Try through the hospital where you had Asha. Also maybe even googling playgroups/mothers groups in your area. I once googled young mums in perth and it found a perth forum, i've already started 'talking' with other perth mums and we are organising a meet up. Where do you live? It wont be much longer and Asha will sleep through for you.

Sherie - lmao bum trumpet!!!! Reminds me of the other night, I got Maddie up for her last feed at 10, trying to be quiet and change her nappy, but she did a massive fart, i couldnt help but laugh and she woke up, whoops!

Leemar - Glad you had a great time at seaworld. Would love to go there one day.

Katie - Haha thats so funny about the tradesmen! I had an incident at the start of the yr, it was Friday night, I'd just got home from work and we were going out that night so I was rearing to go - I put on some nice knickers (and that was all at that point) and was in the bathroom straighting my hair. I had kylie playing in the lounge room and a good song came on, so I literally pranced my way down the hallway to go turn it up and there is the neighbour on his roof looking straight at me (we have big glass doors at the back of the house and his house backs onto ours) and I was dancing topless like an idiot! How embarrassing. Glad you had a nice time in Sydney.

Hayley - Havent stolen anything in the pram yet, but I have definately come close. Good on you for being honest. Bummer about the swing and jumperoo. Maybe call toys r us and see if they can order them in before chrissy?

Marydean - I've had a look at that photomax before. The calendars are such a good idea, and so cute! The cups look great too, even the little key rings, I think they were like $5, bargain.

Well I had grand plans for today. Food shopping, christmas tree decoration shopping and develop my photos and put them in an album. We drove out to Harvey norman to do the photos, unloaded the pram, got little miss sorted out and then discovered that Harvey norman was closed due to a power failure!!! Had to reload everything in the car. Grr. Then started to drive to the shops to do food shopping, Maddie was screaming in the back, due to be very overtired. Then I realised that the car was almost on empty and I cant fill it up because DP's work pays for my fuel (its in his deal) and he had the fuel card. He tells me off if I just get fuel and pay for it out of our money hehe. So I thought crap we wont make it to coles, I'll go to Action which is close to home. Action didnt have any spare trolleys with capsules! Maddie was crying heaps by this stage and I was getting dirty looks. What a mission, so I just decided to go home. So there go my plans down the drain. Forgot how easy life was before a baby hehe.

Is anyone else trying to capture some nice baby shots for the grandparents for chrissy? I'm trying my best, but not today as she is not happy!

tried googling, no luck there:( any idea on which part of the hospy i would ring to find that out?

Yep your CHN should be able to put you in contact with a mothers group Noni. Or if there isnt one in your area you could start one yourself. I know someone who did that here. Also I remember reading about mothers groups in my local area on bubhub dot com dot au.

Hayley - I stole a birthday card in one of the trolleys with capsules on Saturday. Oops!

Rory got his needles and he was sooooooooooo brave. Didnt cry when they gave him the drops, didnt cry for the first needle but grizzled for the 2nd. Oh he is such a brave boy hehe. He was even smiling as we were walking out the drs. He is really tired now though, better put him to bed.

hello everyone- just a quick pop in from me...and a special hello to noni..don't forget you have lots of people to talk to on here!
went to ob for check up and she made me do pelvic floor exercises and said i was pathetic and basically doing nothing!!! how embarassing. now she's referred me to a physio on friday to teach me how to do them properly....i can't believe how much i have to get my pants off these days!!!!
hope everyone is doing well...it is absolutely pouring with rain here...
i'm having an insecure fat crisis..am thinking of joining ww but might wait till after xmas...
bye for now

renee - glad rory was so good with his needles!! Asha screamed the place down lol... my chn is useless but maybe i will try and call up tmw and see what she says...
gracie - i'm having a similar crisis been eating so much i am scared of going to ww!!!

Hi Girls,

Renee- I am happy too that rorys needle when ok.
Gracie/Noni- I agree I am dreading going to ww on sat.
Well what a day. I am trying to toilet train the boys and latley Jordy is taking his nappy off and walking around naked.lol. Today he gave me his nappy twice with a poop in side and then I had to go running around the house looking for any poop that my have fell out. God give me strength. lol

Well its good night from me. Talk to you all tomorrow.

Noni- I am sending you special hugs and hope you are feeling a bit happy. I am your friend.

My baby has gone feral! Any finger, hand, arm, toy or clothing that gets anywhere near his mouth gets attacked. He has been growling all day and I am covered in drool.

Noni, hope you had a better day.

Leanne, glad you enjoyed seaworld. Can't wait until Will is big enough to enjoy things like that. Did you go to the 3D movie? When I went a couple of years ago it was an animal movie - all the little kiddies crapped themselves when a snake came out of the screen lol

Hope all the night shift wives are holding up o.k

Leemar - Oh my goodness this is what us new mums have to look forward to hey!? Hehe cheeky little Jordy. Toilet training one must be hard enough, but twins!? You are braver than me. :)

Renee - Wow Rory did very well. I left the doctors with a very upset Maddie!

Noni - Maybe try the department that organises the ante natal classes. I know at my classes they invited us to a mothers group once our bubs had arrived.

Gracie - I'm sick of getting my pants off for everybody as well. I was a bit naughty, when I went for my 6 wk check I told the doc that everything was fine downstairs, although it was still a bit tender. I just didnt want anyone else going down there!!! Luckily its all healed now though.

Arte - Hehe a feral baby!? Aww. Maddie has started drooling lots lately too, I think its so cute, but DP doesnt hehe.

Just put DP & Maddie in the bath together and she's just drifted off to sleep. Our little night time pattern is working very well. However has anyone else found that bubby is now starting to get clingy? I used to put Maddie down with her dummy and she'd drift off fairly quickly, but now days as I'm leaving the room I can see her watching me and as soon as i'm out of sight she has a grizzle. I spend a bit of time stroking her forehead and saying mummys still here!! At the moment I think its really nice, it makes me realise that she knows i'm her 'protector' & we've formed a bond iykwim, but i'm hoping it wont get worse down the track.

*****!! Turns out that you need to take the pill for a full cycle to be protected. Okay Renee dont freak out....whooosaaaa whoooosaaaa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 breath!

How can I be sooo stupid!!!

renee- take some deep breaths and think some ppl have unprotected sex for months before concieving or even longer! easy for me to say but try not to stress :hug:
haley - Asha is like that too lots of patting and mummys here needed now lol but she is sick atm too poor thing has the flue and has been running temps on and off yesterday and today so she is super clingy!
so lonly lol its so boring of a night when Asha has gone to sleep and i am just sitting around lol theres plenty of housework to be done but i cant be fu@*#d

It took us 6 months with Rory. And your bodies hormones are all over the joint from pregnancy...right?? RIGHT??

Noni - Rory is asleep too and im just browsing the net....sooo boring. I had to give him some panadole because he was a bit warm and fighting sleep. Does anyone else feel bad about giving bubs panadole? Am I strange?

rennee - ive given ash panadol twice in the last two days n i do feel bad about it but if she has a temp she has a temp! if it tiik u 6mths id just concentrate on that u know ofc it is possible but completely possible nothing will come of it too!!

Haley, Will is the opposite clingy wise, he has been a mummy's boy since birth - it has only been in the last week or so that he has been giving DH good smiles and letting him hold him for a decent amount of time. W has even let DH play with him for an hour in the morning before he wanted breakfast and he cheered up from his grizzlefest yesterday when DH got home (for a while anyway)

Renee, I am sure you are fine. Is that the mini pill that you need to take full cycle? We have opted to use condoms instead of pills, but I am sure they would have more chance of working if we actually used them. I seem to be relying on breastfeeding, withdrawal and good luck to not get knocked up again.

I don't like to give bub panadol but I do on occasion give it to him. After vaccinations the nurse told me it was quite alright to give them a dose every 4 hours for a few days if they need it.

It is 4am in the morning, can't get back to sleep after feeding baby because my DH is snoring and sounds like a lawnmower. I think I will go and sleep in the spare room.

Morning Ladies,

Art- No we didnt really have time for the 4d show. My DH snores too but mainly when he is tired or been drinking and he sounds like a freight train. lol.
Renee- I too was scared to give the boys panadol at first and it took me till they were teething to start to feel more comfortable to give it to them. Xavier gets a lot of high temps when teething however Jordy was a breeze.
Noni- I hope you a feeling better today.

morning everyone!
Renee - which pill are you taking? i am on the mini pill and i must admit i worry a little how effective it is... it took us 12 months with Noah though but i guess it can be diff everytime... are you worried bc AF hasnt come or just bc it takes amonth to be effective?
Noni - i would call the mat health nurse, she will know where there are groups.. and also your hospital/birthing unit - they will be able to at least tell you where to go... how are you feeling today? have you had a chat to DP about how you feel lonely?
I havent given Noah panadol yet, but i am guessing that when he has his immunisations this will be needed? tell me , how many days do they need to get over them? i am thinking of trying to get him in on thu but we are flying to melb on sat so do you think this is wise? or shall i wait til i get back?
Have any of your bubs started to drop feeds? i am hoping this is normal? the last 2 nights Noah has slept from 8.30 - 9ish to 7.30ish no feeds - he used to have 2 or 3 in this time, then dropped to 1 or 2 and now none.. is that ok? he also seems to have dropped 1 or 2 during the day time... ia m thinking he prob takes more at each feed now his tum is bigger and maybe he is growing less fast but i am a bit worried too (as i am sure all us 1st time mums get!!). i know he is def not underweight LOL (he was 6kg at his last weigh in 2 wks ago - 75th percentile) but why has he started to want less feeds suddenly? do you thinki shld wake him for a dream feed? it goes againt my instinct to wake him at all!
with all your talk about jumperoos etc i am looking into getting a jolly jumper or jumperoo... i am guessing he will be able to use this in about a month? if so i may getit at post xmas sales... i guess i am lucky we dont do xmas so i dont need to get these things now!

Pregpan- Olivia is on 5 feed per day with her last feed being at 8 or 9pm and then she wakes about 4.30 5 am. Re needles tip- give panadola about 1/2hour before needles.
Re Pill- I have not been on the pill for about 7 years now. We were trying for about 4 years before we did IVF and got the boys but with Olivia I fell straight away after I miscarried. Now we are using Condoms before DH get the big snip. lol.

hey Pregpan! I would say that he is just having more in each feed, so not need to feed as often now, particularly now that he is sleeping longer at night, they are bound to drop a feed or two (I bet your boobs aren't thanking him for that in the morning though ;) ). Don't forget that they become very efficient feeders as they get older too. Plus if he was hungry he would let you know about it I'm sure.

Renee, I usually always wait for a full cycle on the pill to feel completely safe - I am very aware that we don't have any trouble at all falling pg (Lindsay was a nice surprise and the other three were all conceived on the first cycle of trying). Do you think you were at 'that time' in your cycle for it to be a problem? I think you will be pretty right though. I'm really glad that Rory is OK with his needles - just watch out for the natsy poos he might do.

Noni, it doesn't have to be a mothers group, you could find a playgroup near your area. They are for children from birth to 5yo and are a wonderful way to get involved, even if your baby is still small. And remember that you don't have to be full of confience with new people to be able to go and babies are a great ice breaker in new situations - especially with other mums. Asha will also benefit from it too by having social interaction with other babies.

Leanne, maybe you should do one boy at a time ;)

Speaking of birth control, DH has his *appointment* tomorrow with the urologist and hopefully we will know when he can have the snip done. I don't think I will ever feel completely safe until then, actually probably not even then LOL - I am so sure my baby making days are over.

We have a Christmas party tonight for all the babies that were born at Temora Hospital for the year. It is a great night out. All the babies get a small Christmas decoration with their name and the year on it - I still put the ones that the older 3 got on the tree every year.

just a quickie as i have to leave right now for lewis to get his needles at 11.30 ouch!!...but just wanted to let renee know...we had unprotected sex once...yes that's correct...once...and now we have the little man...oooppps!!! lol
you'll be fine though, i'm sure..just wanted to freak you out a little!! i'm so mean!

Ohh, Gracie, you meanie!! Fingers crossed Renee!

Pregpan - you lucky thing sleeping for that long. DD is still all over the place for her overnight sleeps. If she goes down at 9, she wakes anytime between 2:30 and 5, then again 3 or 4 hours later. So it makes a big difference to me the next day what time she initially wakes up.

DD has changed her daytime habits completely. She seems to be on a 2 hour schedule - feed and play for an hour, sleep for an hour. She wakes up grumpy a few times too. I've tried just playing with her, thinking that she surely can't be hungry yet, but until she has something she is a very unhappy girl. With all those daytime feeds I would have thought she would sleep longer at night, but that hasn't happened!

DD needed panadol the night of her immunisations, but was fine the next day.

Noni - try calling the birth unit about mothers groups, or is there another clinic near you that you don't attend that might have a better nurse to talk to?

Had a panic this morning - changed DD at 4:30 and her nappy felt really light, like she hadn't weeed at all. Had visions of helicopter flights with her up to Canberra, so didn''t go back to sleep. Of course the next nappy was absolutely soaking.

She roller over from her tummy to her back 4 times on the weekend in one go. We were very excited!!

She's awake, back later.

thanks for the advice girls - i wont worry about his feeding then....
isnt it funny how they do things at such diff times Cally - Noah does not show signs of rolling yet, Katie is waking at nights etc etc = it just shows that they are all different and wonderful in their own ways...

Gracie - you meanie!!!! LOL!
Sherie - that xmas party sounds fab. enjoy! and no my boobs are NOT happy by the time he wakes in the morning - one squawk from him and i am dashng in there top off ready to ram it in his mouth LOL!

HAPPY HANNUKAH PREGPAN!
am hoping to teach myself to make latkes this year to celebrate Sash's Jewish heritage (from DH's mum) but might not quit make it! we both know v little and need to learn more as we want her to grow up learning about her background...
btw i'det him sleep but i have no idea

hey all i called a few ppl this morning and theres two groups in the area..
one is a young mums group but they said there are girls my age as well and even a baby with the same birthday as Asha.. problem is mums group is finishing this friday because they go by the school terms but they invited me to their christmas party and said santa will be there and Asha will get a present so i figured i would go even though its the last meeting just for something to do... the other one i am waiting for them to call me back about apparantly the lady who organises it is not in till thursday so thats a start i suppose...
gracie - gl with the needles - wow once lol it only took dp n i around 2n a half months but it was just a matter of getting the fertile times right...
sherie - i didn't know playgroups were from birth up i might look into it.. seems the problem is things are all breaking up for christmas..
leanne - is olivia still having farrax? how is she doing?
pregpan - cant really talk to dp about feeling lonly.. it will just make him feel bad.. i know he is feeling a bit down with working night shift too, this job is so far just until christmas so maybe we will talk about night shift when he comes to looking for something else and i will voice my preferences about it then, but hes not really liking these shifts either he just does it because we need the money..
arte - dp snores too its awful.. theres no spare bed to go to here lol
cally - congrats on katie rolling

Noni- Yeah I stopped it for a few weeks and mum gave her some on the weekend but have not given to her since will probally give her some tomorrow, she loves it. I am glad you found a mother group and I hope you enjoy it.
Cally- Congrat on Katie rolling over Olivia is starting that too. lol.

Noni - hope you enjoy the Christmas party. You don't have to make friends straight away, but it will be good to meet some different people. And I'm sure they will all tell you how gorgeous Asha is!!

K hasn't rolled over since the first time - the next time I put her on her tummy she screamed! We might try again later.

We're using condoms - the way my brain is going there is no way I would remember to take the pill at the same time every day.

Gracie - hope the needles went OK. I had a little tear seeing her so distressed, but she got over it very quickly.

Pregpan - enjoy the extra sleep you get - K slept for 9 hours one night and I had a bad sleep because I kept waking up, expecting to get up. My best sleep was when she slept for 7 hours and woke just as I hopped back into bed after a toilet visit. I also dropped back to sleep very quickly that night.

Does anyone else have trouble getting back to sleep after a night feed? I sit in her room where its dark and feel like I could fall asleep in the chair, but when I hop back into bed I can be awake for another hour! Very frustrating. At least the night feeds are now less than half an hour, not like the hour they used to be.

Aww Noni that sounds great! Oh im excited for you. Makes me want to join a mothers group. Although Ive got my own little mothers group in our street, there are 6 babies all born within 2 months of each other!!! All boys except one. You can imagine what our street is going to be like in 4/5 years time...LOOK OUT!

Queenie - How is litte Sasha? It broke my heart when I read your post about her screaming through her feed. Poor darling.

Sherie - The christmas party sounds fantastic :) Hope you and the family have a great time!

Cally - Whoa - Katie is so clever rolling from her tummy to her back already! Rory gets stuck half way and just waves his arms and legs around like a slater beatle stuck on its back HAHA
Pregpan - I wouldnt wake him. If he was hungry he would let you know, loud and clear haha

Where is Jazmum? I miss her! I wanted to ask her a question as Hannah is a tummy sleeping baby too :(

We want Rory to go to the private school a suburb next to us. Do we really need to get his name down now??

Rory is in such a good mood today :) He has been laughing all morning and now he is having his late morning nap. Its like he never got his needles yesterday.

quick question everyone- just got back from needles and lewis is really upset. can i give him some panadol or something or not bother? what should i do? i hate seeing him this upset..

Renee- I would just ring them up. Some private school you have to book in now but some you dont. The boys are going to private school from grade 5 and we wont have to book them in for a couple of years yet.
Cally- I have problems getting back to sleep only sometimes.

Gracie- I would give him some panadol. Remember it takes about 1/2 hour to kick in. Then if he needs it give him some more in 4 hours.

ok- i'll have to go up to chemist and buy some children's panadol. is it liquid?

Gracie - I'd give him some panadol if he is still really upset. And lots of cuddles of course!

Ours came with a little syringe so we could squeeze it in like they do the oral vaccine.

oh nooo the flue is starting to hit me hard!!! idk what i will do Ash has it too has had a temp on and off the last few days and dp has it bad and will be at work so i will be looking after sick baby while sick any tips??? have to walk up the street to get formula too poo!!!
baby panadol comes in a small bottle with a syringe very easy gracie, i had to give it to ash too she didn't cope well with her needles it really helped!!

Wow, so many posts... Just dropped in to see how everyone is going.

I'm soooo sick - I feel terrible, I have been pretty much ignoring Scarlet all day... She's been in bed with me while i've just been sleeping on and off but there's nothing i can do to help it, I keep worrying if i don't play with her she wont develop - I even had a mini nightmare about it.. I don't know whats wrong with me, I've been feeling like i'm dying all day... I never get sick! Doctor tomorrow for sure!

Hope all mummy's and bubby's are well - Back to bed for me.

Hayley xxx

managed to get up to the shops, i bought formula at coles though because the chemist that sells it cheaper was a further walk :( $5 difference can u believe it??
on the way home i was lectured by this old lady who was saying that she was from europe and that ppl over here didn't know how to look after their children! she was refering to the fact that she believed the shade/fly screen i had on the pram was inadequate (sp) protection from the sun and that i simply must put a wrap or blanket over the pram (which i have done before in the shops to sheild the light to hope she would go to sleep and she hated it and screamed until i took it off) anyway the point is she was shaded lol and just because she wasnt in the dark this lady was insisting i was going to hurt my child!! i just said thanks but shes fine when the old lady said oh my god and grabbed her heart like i was commiting some horrible act of child abuse gosh it made me mad!!!
lp - hope u get better soon i am not feeling the best either...