Babies Born September 2007 #3

Sherie I chickened out of the whole hoo-ha waxing - just got a short back & sides so to speak, no clippering (might do your trick and get DH need a scissors trim around the entrance) but the lash tint/brow shape always makes me feel a million dollars. Plus the girl I go to always stays in the room while your lashes are being done and gives you a hand massage... she rocks! Poor you - WHY do people always have to comment on gender?? grrrrr!
pregpan hope the cake was gooood!
MD poor Miss E - hope you get some answers tomorrow. BTW that makes SENSE about the fluid retention: 3 weekends of baby showers in a row = too much cake, esp when we always divvy it up at the end so everyone takes some home! Also had a Tim-Tam craving a week ago whereas usually I can't stand them (weird)! Ate heaps today but at least the bulk of it was salad sandwich (not counting the last Tim-Tam, iced chocolate and two homemade biccies ROFL), but can't seem to recognise the normal hungry/full cues and have felt slightly blah all day.
Had curry last night and DH limited himself to 2 beers after hearing Gracie's story (? it was you wasn't it G?) which he thought was the funniest thing he'd heard in a long time... I think he envies your DP's intercom!! Unfortunately I seem to have ended up with the flatulence today!
Got some stringy CM happenin' too! yet another fascinating change! hurrah for panty liners!!
have a great night everyone xx

Queenie, there's no such thing as too much cake!! :cryinglaugh: The stringy CM sounds like progress...! ;)

Queenie my dear, I do think that 'stringy mucus' is your plug coming away! IKWYM about not having the normal cues for hunger, I would over eat and then feel terrible for hours until it all digested.

Marydean, I really hope that it is just something you ate and not reflux at all.

Sherie, I'm pretty sure it's reflux as I've seen it before - she starts off feeding ok, then it starts - she's still hungry and wants to feed but arches her back and cries (with her mouth full of boob) and then the chucking starts (but it hurts and she doesn't settle afterwards like they do when they've let out a good windy burp or even a posset -if anything it hurts more). She was a happy chucker up until a few days ago and I've not eaten anything different in that time...but I'm on to it early and I'm pretty sure the treatment will go into effect before it turns into a nasty chronic painful thing. It's just a pain cos all the medecines are a bit of a pain to administer - I remember trying to mix up ridiculously small amounts of gaviscon powder for DD1. But Zantac and Losec have come along since then so we'll see what the Dr says tmrw.

Ahh, so you're not new to reflux then? Did H suffer with it badly? It is such a cruel thing for a baby to get, it really is. At least you will be more confident in dealing with it this time round and know the tricks to get a baby to take medicine.

H had it to what I would say was a mild to moderate degree but my sister suggested it might be reflux so I went to the Dr straightaway and she gave me a medicine which pretty much worked immediately - and then it was a case of managing the chucking by propping up the mattress, feeding posture, sling time etc - it resolved of itself after a few months - apparently the tummy sphincter thingy gets stronger around the time they start sitting up. So :crossfingers: it'll be the mild manageable scenario again. There is lots of really valuable advice as to medications and how to give them etc in the BB threads too so that'll help as well, I'm sure.

Morning everyone,

Logan and I were fine last night, he slept with me which meant I only had to rollover to feed him rather then get up and go into the lounge room. He was cracking up this morning so I took some pics, they are in my gallery.

MD thats no good about the reflux, at least you know what it is and what to expect though. Poor Elisabeth though it must be awful for them (and mum).

Queenie how exciting sounds like your getting super close now. I had my eyebrows done yesterday, it makes you feel so much better doesnt it.

Sherie fingers crossed Alister has settles into a routine, sounds like a clever boy setteling into a pattern that helps mummy out. Was it an old lady that made the gender comment? It seems alot of elderly people seem to make comments on new babies with out even thinking.

Arte I did read somewhere that the boys nappies have more padding in the front as boys tend to wee there and the girls more towards the back, I dont know how true it is though. Lol at your DH not noticing the pink, such a male thing to do.

Noni sounds like the gripe water works for you, if your unsure if its making her sleepy perhaps google it and see what comes up and talk to your community nurse.

Ozstar - good to hear you had a good night. Some nights I am so tired and it is tempting to co-sleep but I don't think it is safe in my bed with the cat (who likes to sleep on faces) and the super clumsy dog in there with us.

MD - Hope that you get the reflux thing sorted quickly. Can they get that at any age?

I had my follow up GTT yesterday, poor Will couldn't get to sleep last night because he was so hopped up on sugar and this morning he has tummy pains from it. Poor thing, finally got him to sleep so hopefully it will have eased by the time he wakes up. It took me over an hour to get him to sleep last night, he kept dozing off then snapping awake again. Then DH got grumpy at me for 'hiding away in the nursery' when his parents are here.

I hope MBear and Ella post soon.

Good morning!

Arte, how soon until you get the results from the test? Figners crossed it is a great result! Poor Will though having to have tummy aches because of it though, i hope it clears for him soon.

Katie, I sleep with A when Dh is on nightshift. I put him in his bed for the first part, but to settle him quicker after his 4am feed I put him in with me. I will have to check out Logan's pics and put some more of A up.

Marydean, how did the Dr's appt go?

Noni, How was Asha overnight? I haven't ever used gripe water, only infacol when I've needed it. My mum used to swear by the gripe water though for us kids, but I think that's all they used to have.

The huggies nappies are designed so that they are more absorbent in the front for boys and in the gusset for girls. They are the only brand to do it though, all the others are unisex I suppose you'd call them. I had to get girl ones for Lindsay once too and I couldn't see any difference in them except that they were pink. It's probably all just a con LOL.

So much for me thinking A was starting to form a routine. He went down at 6pm last night, I woke him at 9 for his last feed, he went straight back to sleep and then woke at 4.30 and didn't go back to sleep until 6am! I had 1/2hr sleep before having to get up to get Lindsay off to school. I'm not feeling that tired ATM, but I will hit my 'wall' later on no doubt.

Well we have had 3 good nights here, but in the past, the routine changes every 2-3 days, so we'll see what happens tonight.

DD has been very spewy, yesterday and today, although not at all overnight. There wasn't anything on her bassinet sheet this morning when I changed it, yet I am covered in spew today and my Tshirt from yesterday just reeked of milk. She doesn't seem to be in pain or anything though which is good, she just spews. I think most of the second boobie went all over the carpet this morning!

Arte - good luck with your test, hope you get a good result.

Sherie - shame your routine didn't happen this morning.

Sherie dont you hate when you jinx yourself like that. Fingers crossed he settles back into a nice routine again. I love Logan sleeping with me, its nice to rollover and see his gorgeous little face.

Arte I hope your test comes back with a good result, how long do you have to wait? Hows Wills tummy? Its so hard when you cant really do anything for them and they cant tell you whats wrong.

We are off to Sydney tonight, hopefully Jetstar dont ask me for his birth certificate I have printed off a page from their website that says it MAY be required to prove his age, he is obviously under 2 so I shouldnt have any worries. Fingers crossed he is a good flyer, he should be due for a feed when we board so it works out well, his little ears shouldnt pop and he will be nice and quiet.

Whoa Sherie 9:00 - 4:30 that’s a fantastic block of sleep!!! I am chuffed that Rory slept from 8:00 - 1:30 last night LOL :) I am quite excited at the moment because he doesn’t need to be settled before bed, I just pop him in the bassinette and he goes to sleep. Although I know routines/babies change all the time so im making the most of it haha.
He has started wanting a feed at 4:oo - 5:00am every morning even if he is fed ay 2:00/3:00. It took me a few nights to work out what he wanted. I just thought he was sooky or windy. But I give him a feed and a cuddle and he goes back to sleep until 8:00 now. :) Yipeee
Oh and yesterday he wanted fed every 3 hours which is strange. He is usualy 4 hours to the minute! hmmm

Artichem - I have hid out in the nursery before too. I cant think of nothing worse than having people watch you when you trying your hardest to get the little one off to sleep. I was so frazzled the first week when we had guests around and Rory wouldn’t go to sleep. Hope William is feeling better this morning. How long are your Il's staying for??

Ozstar - Logan is just too cute! I love those pics!

Marydean - Oh im so sorry to hear about Elisabeth’s reflux. It must be so hard to see her in pain. I hope she is feeling better today XOXO

Rory has got is 'fake' cry all sorted out haha. He is doing it at the moment in his cot! He wants a cuddle from mummy, better run

Ladies can i please have your opinion? I am getting Rory's hands and feet gold casted and framed next week. They ask that you bring your own photograph to be framed with the casts but I am having trouble finding one. It has to be a good one because you cant chang it once its framed.
Can you check out the black on white pic on our website and let me know what you think? I am not sure if you can see enough of him

Renee he is such a little spunk. The B/W pic is beautiful, if your happy with it then go for that one.

Cally, there must be something in the air today cause Alister is really spewy today too. He smells pretty gooky at the moment so he'll need a tub when he wakes LOL.

Renee, Alister has been feeding more often through the day too. I think he just makes up for not waking alot through the night. Touch wood Rory keeps being able to self settle to sleep - all of mine have done it and it's so much easier at times, but I still like to cuddle to sleep too ;). And I really like the B&W pic too - very arty. Dod you take it yourself?

Katie, I think you'll be safe with jetstar LOL, would be a right goose of a person to think Logan is older than two. Enjoy your weekend!

hello everyone
i'm having a bit of trouble getting anything done during the day as lewis just won't let me put him down. he's asleep on my chest right now, and if i try to put him in his bassinette he starts crying. i feel like i spend the whole day just holding him. it's impossible to even make myself lunch sometimes!
i've been sleeping with him in our bed too. it just makes it so much easier to roll over and feed him and then he falls asleep in my arms. dp told my mil that we'd been sleeping with him and she was not impressed. she just rang me telling me i over mother him and he needs to learn some discipline and that we're going to suffocate him. now i feel like sh*t.
hope everyone else is doing well....queenie keep your dh away from curries!!
renee- i love that black and white photo of rory. you should definitely use it.
i really want to know how ella is going with bfing. i know i've been finding it really frustrating at times but i'm perservering. now if only lewis would let me put him down so i could do some vacuuming!
bye for now

Wow, it’s really hard to keep up and could only read the last pages.

Cant believe how the time flies, William turned one month old last Sunday and we took him to the Tulip Festival. He just loves being outside although he spent most of the time sleeping :) I think he had a bit of sunburn cause his face’s so red, can anyone recommend a good sunscreen for newborn?
And he smiles a lot, this morning I gave him some kisses and he smiled and coo’ed everytime, makes me so glad I am a mum :)
He's 4.5kg now, gained 1 kg from birth

Just got back from the GP and found out that I have mastitis :( She gave me some antibiotics to drink. Cant believe breastfeeding can be this tough!

Jazmum, laughing at the song thing :), wish i can have beyonce’s body by singing the song while breastfeeding LOL How's your ob apt?
Peta, kaylee is so cute, love the name! sounds you’ve gone through a lot, hope you can have a bit of rest now. good to hear she’s gained weight
Queenie. You’re almost there! I’ve just finished doing my tax as well, finally! Cant believe how complicated that is, especially with baby on your hand!
I used to crave savoury but towards the end of preg always craved for sugar … and i ate chocolates everyday too. But as they said chocolates makes the baby happy :) Nice photo btw
Katie, cadbury’s my best friend too, along with kitkat and timtams LOL Love the pictures, he’s so cute especially the bumble_bee one :) Have a nice flight!
Noni, good that you had a better day and the gripe water worked
Sherie, thanks so much for the articles the other day! Good to hear about Alister regular sleeping pattern, hope it stays like that.
ETA sorry to hear it’s not working atm, but I am sure it will soon, Alister is such a good boy!
Marydean, thanks for your tips on fast flow the other day. Sorry to hear about the reflux, hope the dr apt goes well and she’ll get over it shortly.
Artechim, hope your GTT is okay
Renee, love the pic, Rory’s so adorable :)

Hope I am not missing anyone

Have a great day ladies!

ETA Gracie, that what happened to me recently, sometimes he just want to be cuddled all day long. Btw i think Lewis would love the sounds of vacuum and hopefully he'll fall asleep

Gracie, tell her you feel more like ***** when you are tired from not sleeping. If it isn't in bed with me when DH isn't home, then I might sleep with him on the lounge - if it means that I get some extra sleep instead of sitting up rocking a bassinette then it isn't going to do any harm to anyone and we are better mums for not being so tired. If you are both happy to co sleep then do it - in a few weeks he may be fine, they all go through stages of being really clingy. Just remember that you are not over mothering him, you're just mothering him. As for him wanting to be held, do you have carrier or sling you can pop him in?

ETA - Agnes, I wish Alister would start smiling real smiles and not just the ones he gives me right before he does a burp that would make Barney Gumble proud LOL. I think there are a few old threads about baby sunscreen, I'll have a looky for you and post the links. I hope you can get the mastitis cleared up soon too.

Ella last visited on 11/10 - the day she posted last. She did mention having a day stay with an LC on Tuesday (16th). Mbear last visited on 17/10. I really wish you would post a quick hello!

thanks sherie. yes i put him in my hab for a couple of hours in the day. maybe i should pop him in it now so i can do some stuff? do you think it's dangerous to co-sleep? lewis loves it, and me and dp like it too. he sleeps so well and doesn't cry at all.

agnes- did you go to the tulip festival in silvan? it's right near my house! can i ask you what the symptoms were for mastitis? i'm scared of it!
i can't believe what a worry wort i'm turning into. i'm usually very easy going about things.....

Gracie - Tell that midwife to shove her ideas (sorry I know thats rude)! I dont think there is no one right way of doing ANYTHING when you have a baby. Rory loves to cuddle in bed with me when Dwayne leaves for work. If co-sleeping works for you and it allows Lewis to sleep because he feels safe then do it. If its something you wants to do maybe you could buy one of those tetra beds (I dont know if thats what they are called). And as for the over mothering part...dont get me started LOL!
Rory has a pattern of being fine for a week and then going through a patch of not wanting to be put down for about 2/3 days. Like Sherie said maybe a sling would help? Do you have a bouncer??

Aglinra - I have the Banana Boat SPF 30 roll on sunscreen. Its pink if you end up looking for it :)

Sherie - Yep I took it myself. I looooooooooooooove taking photographs LOL. I think we are going to need some more memory in a few weeks haha

LOL Renee, I took heaps of pics of Lindsay too. i was getting a roll or two developed every week (back in the dark ages of 35mm cameras LMAO).

Gracie, it's not dangerous to co-sleep at all and there are studies that show it is actually beneficial and some suggestion that it can prevent SIDS (something to do with heart rythyms of the mother) if you are keen to do it more often but are worried about it, there are little bed things you can get to put in your bed to stop you rolling on them and them wriggling down under the covers. There was something about them in the 'recommend a product' forum ages ago.

The sypmtoms of mastitis are pain and heat in the breast, lumpiness and you can get a fever. In severe cases you can get vomiting too. It can also come on quite suddenly, so it pays to make sure that the breast is drained well after a feed (it will feel really floppy and deflated LOL)

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been up since 5 lol poppet didn't go back to sleep properly n has been grizzly.. shes very refluxy today n in pain :( we took her to the dr n he suggested trying diff formulas so we got a diff one but now i think she might drink it too quick becoz we changed teats for the thicker formula n the dr suggested one thats not thick and me being the idiot i am chucked the others thinking we wldnt need them :( soon find out i spose...
asked him about the gripe water n he said it dosn't really help the problem just knocks them out which made me feel really guilty and awful like i only did it for my own gain...
shes sleeping less n less in her tetra too wanting to be cuddled all the time n i am just not strong enough to refuse her lol...

Noni, dont ever feel awful, you did what you thought was the right thing at the time and gave it to her. Judging by the advice you've been given in your thread about it, I wouldn't say that it was knocking her out at all. Did he give you a script for some infant gaviscon or losec etc to help her with it instead of just changing formula's? And don't refuse her if she wants to be with you, especially if it's the only way she will sleep - you all need to get as much as you can.

Gracie, here's some info on mastitis and blocked ducts;

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Blocked Ducts & Mastitis

Blocked Ducts.
A Blocked Duct is a lumpy or engorged area of the breast, which may be sore & Red. There may be pain when you milk lets down. Blocked Ducts can happen at any stage of lactation.
It is important to begin treatment immediately as left untreated blocked ducts can lead to mastitis.

Things to do:
* Keep the sore breast as empty as possible by frequent feeding beginning on your sore side. Many blocked ducts are cleared by the baby’s sucking. Continue to check the other breast for engorgement & blocked ducts.
* Gentle but firmly massage the lump towards the nipple during & after feeds.
* Change your feeding position to help empty the breast.
* Use warm washers to apply heat to the sore area before a feed.
* Cold packs applied to the breast after a feed may help to relive your pain.
* Rest as much as possible
* Express by hand or pump if your baby won’t feed or it’s too painful to feed.
* See your medical adviser if you cannot clear the lump in 12 hours or if you develop a fever or feel unwell.

Mastitis.
Mastitis is the inflammation of the breast tissue & sometime infection is present. All or part of the breast can be red, swollen, hot & painful. The breast skin can be shiny with red streaks. You may have a raised temperature & flu like symptoms. This is NOT the time to wean. Untreated mastitis can lead to the development of a breast abscess.

Things to do:
* Begin treatment immediately.
* Continue with the suggestions for a blocked duct outlined above.
* Consult your medical adviser.
* Go to bed if you can, taking your baby with you.
* Breastfeed frequently to keep your breast drained. Your milk is safe for your baby.
* Feed from the sore breast first while your baby is sucking more vigorously.
* Express by hand or pump to help drain the breast
* Ask your medical adviser or pharmacist about pain relief if required (Panadol is safe)
* Contact an ABA counsellor or child health nurse for further help.
How can I prevent Mastitis?
* Avoid hurried & interrupted feeds.
* Don’t let your breasts become too overfull.
* Avoid pressure on your breast. Tight bras, under wire, tight clothing, car seat belts etc.
* Look after your general health.
REMEMBER:
* START TREATMENT IMMEDIATELY
* SEE YOUR MEDICAL ADVISER IF YOUR CAN NOT CLEAR A BLOCKED MILK DUCT WITHIN 12 HOURS & IMMEDIATELY IF YOU FEEL FEVERISH, UNWELL OR THE INFLAMMATION BECOMES WORSE.

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what would we do without you sherie?? sometimes i wonder!!
i was freaking out cos i had a really bad headache last night and thought i was getting sick. my asthma has been bad too, i really think it's just stress though. i'm stressing myself out!

sherie - he suggested we try some other formulas before trying an anti acid medication because its best if she can go without something like that *sigh* just have to wait n see but atm its no sleep city lol... and i dnt refuse her if she wants to be with me sometimes other ppl just tell me how much trouble this will cause me later n say i am spoiling her etc etc so it makes u think about it iykwim

Sherie, you’re the best! I just read Gracie’s post and was going to reply and you beat me to it! Regarding the scocial smile, he starts to do that just recently and moves my heart everytime :) He didnt want to give it to me in the first times, only did that in front of DH and made me feel like just a milk machine LOL

Gracie, some of my symptoms: deep breast pain, engorged breast, red streaks, temps.

Here is the link to the article Sherie posted last time:
Mastitis & Blocked Ducts - Symptoms and Treatments for Mastitis

And link to a thread I started under breastfeeding problems & support (see Barb’s note):
Thrush - how long to recover - BellyBelly Forums ~ Pregnancy, Birth & Baby

I think I have the little bed thing Sherie mentioned, it’s called 'secure sleeper' just in case you’re looking for it. Cant give you any recommendation though, havent actually used that

And yes, I went to tulip festival in silvan, it’s so lovely isn’t it. Just realised that you live in that area, our close friend lives in Monbulk and we visit them quite frequently. I just love the mountain! Maybe Melbourne belly/baby buddies can meet up sometime, if we can free up our schedule of course :) such a busy time with new babies

Cant believe the advice people can give you. When W was 1 week old, someone (a nurse/midwive) told us this is the right time to start doing controlled crying/sleeping. Being a first time mum, I tried it that night and he cried and cried for hours… I still feel sad remembering that and thinking how stupid I was following that advice. After all, he’s just a newborn!

Thanks Renee, might look for it next time I go to the chemist. Btw, the pic is so lovely and you took it yourself, well done! I hear you on the memory thing, I’ve been taking lots of pics and videos and I don’t think my camera & computer can keep up with that LOL

Noni, sending you lots of hugs hun :hugs: Really hope she gets better. I know how you feel, I also cuddled W when he’s unsettled and friends and relatives will start talking about me spoiling him

Noni I hope things get better for you soon, poor Asha must be hard on her (and you of course). Try not to worry about what people say, IMO you cant spoil a newborn baby they cry cause they need something weather that be comfort, food or a clean bum. Dont ever feel guilty being a mum is a learning curve- you are doing a fantastic job, we all are.

Sherie you really are fantastic!

Gracie Logan went through a period where I couldnt put him down and I was getting nothing done. I think it is just a phase as now I can put him in his swing when he is tired and he will generally go to sleep. Its exhausting I know but it should get better soon.

Agnes we seem to have the exact same friends lol. Arent the smiles just the best. At first Logan would only do it for DH and I actually said to DH I feel like just a milk machine lol but now he smiles for me all the time.

Well I am all packed DH is home from his overnight trip and we are ready to go. We will leave in an hour or so. I am so excited I cant wait fo rmum and dad to see him and give him a cuddle.

thanks for the articles agnes. we have good friends who live in monbulk too! the tulip festival is beautiful. i didn't get a chance to go this year but my ILs came down from Sydney for a couple of days to meet lewis and they went along (they are dutchies) and loved it. it always brings a lot of people to the hills. we notice a lot more traffic. yes i think we should organise a melb meet up for bbs!

sherie- i ended up putting lewis in the hab for a couple of hours and got all the dishes washed and a load of washing done. made some phonecalls and threw out all the rotten flowers smelling out our house! saved all the blue balloons of course. the hab really is a life saver isn't it?

i actually bought one of those safe and secure co sleepers but i'm thinking of returning it. we used it for one night but i hated it and couldn't sleep. it felt like there was a wall between me and dp and i just couldn't get comfy. you can't really bfeed them when they're in it either so i found it more of a nuisance than anything. hope they let me return it and get some other stuff! we'll see i guess.

thanks for all your advice guys. hoping lewis stops being so clingy over the next few weeks- or even gets less clingy to me and more clingy to dp so i can get a break!

wish i could have a friday night glass of wine ggrrr

Hi ladies - i just lost my post!!! grrrrr
Gracie - pooh to your mil. is she usually interfering or has she onlyl just started? Hannah won't let me put her down today either - so she has been in the hab the whole day. (i must say it does feel nice having her so close though) It's exhausting though isn't it? I'm looking forward to dh coming home tonight- just so i can have a little break.
Agnes- lucky you getting smiles. Hannah doesn't give out too many yet. We've had a couple, but i'm desperate to get some more. Sorry you've developed mastitis :( hope it clears up really quickly for you.
Renee- that is great that Rory is self settling . I love the photo - have you got time to take more before you get them done next week?
MD - poor little Elisabeth :( I hope she's feeling better soon. Are you still doing Chinese Soup night?
Sherie - have you hit the wall yet? We've could have been on-line at the same time this morning lol.
I went to the ob yesterday - he did an internal and said everything was fine - he asked me to cough and said i've got good control over my bladder ( should have sneezed and then seen what his answer would be lol)
Hannah has been quite demanding these past couple of days. When she is hungry she screams and screams if i don't feed her straight away. i get really stressed when she screams. Dh is happy to let her cry for a little while ( like when we're having dinner) but i just cannot stand it.
hope everyone has a good night.
Sherie - should i send mbear a text message (she was my phone buddy) letting her know we're thinking about her, or is that inapppropriate?

Jaz, that's a great idea to send her a text, that way if she does't want to post, she can at least text you back kwim?

Ok Sherie - i'll do it now. (just don't want her to think i'm stalking her lol)

Hi everyone, I just want to second everything everyone said about you can't hold your baby "too much", you can't "over mother" them (tho tell your MIL there is more danger of MILs "overmothering" their sons LOL) and basically you do what you do to keep mum and bub as happy as possible. Like Sherie napping on the lounge - DO WHAT WORKS!!!! :D

Jazmum, great idea to text Mbear. Send our love. No chinese soup anymore, that's mostly something DD and I do when DH is away - when he's here we try to have a "family night" and play a game together (Cluedo's currently the hot favorite). DH is making a meditteranean lamb pizza (from the Take 5 maggie last week - lamb, kalamata olives, eggplant, semidried toms, garlic, feta - on turkish bread like a sub- YUM)!

Noni - I just wanted to say if you're not getting results from the things your Dr recommended after a good couple of weeks, go back and try the next thing.

OK saw dr today and Lil Missy Clever Elisabeth stole the show by SMILING at the dr when she said hello (!) They are still few and far between but I hang out for every smile I see no matter how fleeting they are! Anyway she did such a good job of looking contented and well fed that the dr sent us away with instructions to use Gaviscon. Which is just as hopeless a messy stupid thing to mix up as it was 9 years ago! Anyway the quantity seems all wrong as for E's size it mixes up to 30 mls ??? That's a lot to get into a baby! *Sigh* I'm kind of hoping it's not true reflux but rather irritation from weeks and weeks of ABs.

Gotta go, lil Miss Clever Smile At the Doctor is squawking! xxx to you all

Hello everyone
Jazmum - let us know what MBear says and pls tell her we are missing her! I hope she is OK and just caught up with her 3 beautiful girls and hasnt had time to post. A bit worried about her though to be honest...
MD - so glad that E's reflux doesnt seem to be too full on that the Dr had to do much - just the Gaviscon. Poor little thing! How gorgeous she gave the Dr a nice smile! Noah has started to smile quite a lot, esp at his Daddy when he plays with him in the mornings.
Cally - I think ti was you who mentioned fruit cake as a snack the other day?? wellnow I am addicted!
Noni - dont beat yourself up about the gripe water, I am sure you are doing a fab job.. and just keep trying things for the reflux til it gets sorted.
Gracie - poo to your MIL.. but in some ways i think that is their job - unsolicited advice LOL!!! I agree no such thing as over mothering esp at this age... I cant give N enough cuddles and attention and I am sure he will thrive from it. we all do what is best for us and the bubs!
Katie - how did the flight go? I am putting off going to melb to see the fam bc of the flight - so interested to see how Logan coped. Good idea to plan a feed around takeoff! If it works for immunisations it will surely work for a flight!
Renee - I love the pic, nice one!!! I know what you mean I take at least 10 pics of Noah a day. Digital cameras have really chgd things hey - when we were all born our parents would have had an album every 6 months or so.. btu now we take 100s and 100s of pics. These kids are so photographed!
Agnes how is the mastitis?

Better go, it is going to be v hot here today so I want to do my walk before it really heats up...
Have a great day!

Good Morning!

Jaz, have you heard anything back from Mbear yet? It's really not like her not to post.

Marydean, that's a huge amount to give her? how many times a day is she supposed to have that? You could be onto something with the abs too, even though you've been on them a while maybe they are only starting to upset her now. Either way I hope it doesn't get worse.

Noni, I second what Marydean said - go back if you aren't happy it's working. Only you know Asha well enough to know if it isn't working and always trust your instincts.

Pregpan, there was an article in the Sunday Telegraph last week about the 'death of the family album' because people rarely print out their digital pics and put them in an album now, they just use online albums or keep them on their HD/flash drives etc. I still print out all the ones I take and put them in albums - the kids love looking at them. it's supposed to be really hot here too - make sure you drink plenty of water on your walk too so it doesn't affect your milk.

DH said last night that the new car should finally be here by mid next week. There was a hold up in it getting ordered, hence the delay and I must admit I was getting a bit fed up with using the commodore - there really isn't much space in there with 4kids LOL. Plus we are starting to want to go away places too and we can't do that until we get the new car.

Did anyone get the big commemorative birth certificates? We finally got Alister's in the mail yesterday (both the standard and the commemorative)

Sherie, the 30mls is supposed to be after every feed - not exceeding six times a day - but I've decided to only give it when she seems to be refluxing and I'll start with the single dose 15ml and then add to it if she doesn't settle. I'm just *****ty because they have invented a medecine that is clearly designed for formula-fed babies (ease of giving it) and then haven't bothered to take it any further to make it easier for BFing mothers to give. I think she's only refluxing intermittently - esp at the end of the day around cluster-feed time - still hoping it will improve when I finish the ABs - last day today! She's had a nasty windy runny bottom for weeks - can't do anything about it, just have to persevere!

Pregpan - I'm right there with you on the fruitcake, I couldn't get enough for the first few weeks...lucky for my thighs the addiction seems to be easing off now! I can't believe how warm it's getting here - told DH he will have to get our aircon out of the shed - but I'm having fun dressing E up all her little summery outfits! :D

I hope everyone has got something nice planned for the weekend - a little outing or something. We're having a new-release DVD movie night tonight, might do popcorn and choc-tops as well!
Yep, we got the commemorative birth cert - it's much bigger here than the Victorian ones (typical Canberrans thinking large of themselves hahaha). DH has this idea of doing a framed photo montage & the birth cert - that would be nice...if he ever gets around to it!

morning everyone
I just got a message back from mbear - she is doing very well. They have had some computer problems over the past 2 weeks, and life is busy with 3 under 4. She said they are starting to get into a bit of a routine, so she is hoping to log back on soon. She sends hugs to everyone.
marydean - 30mls seems alot doesn't it! I hope E likes taking it for you.
Pregpan - you are so good going for a walk everyday. I wish i was motivated to do something.
Sherie- how exciting about the new car!! I think i'm going to get a whole heap of photos printed off too. I've got so many on my computer (and on backup disc!!) and you're right- the kids love sitting down looking at albums. It's going to cost a fortune though, so i might have to do little bits at a time.
Is it possible to have low supply in one breast? My left one always shoots out milk and the breast pad is quite wet if i start on the right side. The same doesn't happpen for the right breast. I'm thinking of doing some expressing just to see how much is coming out. (am going to have to find all my equipment)
Also, Hannah makes a clicking sound when she feeds - i know this is a sign of poor attachment, but my nipples aren't sore, and she still gets plenty of milk. I've tried everything to make it stop. Any suggestions?

Jaz, I am so relieved to hear that she is OK, just busy. When I was Bf the older kids, I always had more in the left then the right. I have more breast tissue in the left one apparently and it always got so much bigger than the right one when they were engorged. Does she feed more often from the left, hence it making more milk? I know I always fed from that side first because it was bigger, otherwise I would soak a cloth nappy with milk. With the clicking, do you think she could be letting go a little and losing some of the suction of the attachment? I know Alister does this on the bottle (which isn't the same I know) ,but I find that when he does it, it's when he's taking really long, deep sucks and makes the click when he swallows and loses a bit of attachement.

Marydean, that is a huge amount! I suppose they assume that reflux bubs are just put on AR formula and not continued to be BF in severe cases. Have you checked out some of the other threads about it to see how they do it?

sherie - i feed from both sides at each feed- so not sure why it would not be producing the same amount. Re the sucking - could be losing some attachment - i don't think she makes the sound when the milk is coming out fast. I'll have to check. Maybe i should try a different position or something. Maybe laying down.

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