Pregpan - Well I must say I am slightly envious of you, sometimes I wish we didnt do christmas either! Such a stressful time. Maddie is still in grobags, I love them they work well for us. Hope that ms wears off soon, its horrible!
Arte - Yay congrats on the big boy bed.
JG - I hope they wont make you move with your 4 week old. Wow the owners would be spewing at the sale price.
Trillian - When is the op?
I'm reading a book on autism at the moment, just a quick question for you ladies who didnt do the MMR vaccination, is that due to the fear of autism?
H, nah, I didn't get the MMR because of that, it just didn't sit right with me to do it when he had his food sensitivities, eczema and reflux etc so I didn't want to upset his system any further by giving it to him. Of course it was in my mind about MMR and Autism, but that alone didn't play a part in the decision. Are you worried about it at all?
Thanks Cindy its on the 5/12. I'm not worried but I am kwim? I think I'm more worried about having a general anaesthetic LOL. But I am looking forward to it if I means I can just get on with things again. that's great that you didn't have a sign of it with the 14wk test. My best friend had it with her first and she got a high reading at the 14wk test with her second and she ended up with it quite bad again, but she is predisposed to it anyway as she was older and overweight etc. My Mum got it with her last term pg very bad (again she was predisposed to it) and after my brother was born she had a surprise pg (thought she was starting menopause) and her levels skyrocketed to nearly 50. She had to end the pg as it was too risky for her health to continue it. Oh and fingers crossed the new owners of the house are happy to either let you stay, or stay long enough so you aren't moving with a newborn.
Pregpan, thanks for answering that for me I can totally get why you wouldn't want that celebration to turn into a quasi-Christmas because that would sort of defeat the purpose of not celebrating it I suppose.
Trillian - Not worried really, but its just a scary thought and this book has got my mind ticking. To think we could be endangering our children with these vaccinations, it worries me because I've always thought I'm doing the right thing getting her vaccinated, but then you hear these stories from parents of autistic children. Do you worry at all that Alister may pick up a bug down the track from not being vaccinated? Did you vaccinate all your other children? I guess I just feel very uninformed about it all...
I get what you're feeling ATM H. I felt that by objecting to Alister having any more vaccinations was the FIRST time I'd made an informed choice about it kwim? The oldest two are fully vaccinated according to their schedules (there are a few extras on there now that weren't when they were babies) and Paige didn't have her 4yo vacces, so she's vaccinated to that point. There are some I just don't agree with on principal too - like the meningococcal/pnuemococcal vaccs because they only vaccinate for 1 strain of the disease and there are three of them they could possibly get - so you vax for one and they get the other kwim? I'm also not worried about him catching anything. I used to be a supporter for the Chicken pox vaccine, but am now against it when I learnt that it's success rate isn't terribly high and that even if vaccinated you can still get shingles as an adult. I would much rather he get measles or chicken pox than be vaccinated against it as it will provide him a better immunity than if he didn't get it. I have had German measles as a child and I still have a great immunity from it. I have also had chicken pox. That said I think our relative risk of getting anything is very small - I'm not relying on herd immunity, just that they aren't in 'high risk' places to catch them. We are pretty isolated out here where we live and I think that they are healthy enough and if you maintain a great immune system by way of good gut health I think that also cuts a lot of the risk.
MM are you reading Jenny thingy's book off Oprah yesterday? She was pretty convincing but you have to remember that the particular component of the MMR Vaccine that is suspected as having the causative effect is not used in Australian vaccines and hasn't been for years. It's also an unfortunate coincidence that the MMR vaccine was always given around the 18 mth mark which is when autistic signs usually start to emerge - even in non-vaccinated children. That's why the schedule was changed recently, so that fewer people assume the vaccine caused the autism. Just remember that measles has been on the rise in recent years so if you don't vaccinate now you might want to do it later when M is a bit older, kwim?
OK on the Christmas front - had a little shop-stomp by myself today and got it all sorted. Elisabeth is finally getting her wheelybug (cheap from ebay), a flipout sofa (20% off at Kmart), an ELC balancing snail, and (2nd hand) the FP talking dog soft toy (you press its hand and it says "hand", etc). They had the radio flyer tricycles half price at ToysRUs so I bought one of those but am undecided: it might stay in the cupboard until she turns 2. From memory that was how old H was when she got her first tricycle. If we decide to hold the tricycle over then she might get a wooden pull along toy as well. And that's IT. The difficulty we have is that we have to cart it all the way to Adel under top secret conditions LOL. I don't think she'll get many pressies from the grandparents this year because Nan & Pop in QLD have taken to sending money ( Seriously how HARD is it to spend 20 mins in Big W picking something out for a 1 year old) and her Grandma who's always done the chrissy shopping is now nearly blind and has trouble getting out.
Pregpan it might sound like a lot but I don't usually buy toys inbetween Christmas/birthdays so it's got to last her until she turns 2, kwim? With DD1 it was easy because her birthday is in June so it was new toys every 6 months. I'm really enjoying being able to buy what I want to this time round instead of just getting the very cheapest thing because that's all we could afford with DD1. So E has much nicer quality toys than H ever did.
Arte, good luck with the big bed! Like Trill we waited until DD1 was 2 and a bit...but we can take the side off the cot so she had a little practice in a smaller bed for a couple of months first.
ETA - Trill agree 100% on maintaining good immunity from good gut health. My friend has a son with Aspergers - he is VERY sensitive to food issues and she sees a huge improvement when she can keep him gluten and dairy free for any period of time (which in itself is really hard and sometimes impossible). But she's working on the total load theory and reduces where she can.
Last edited by AnyDream; November 20th, 2008 at 04:15 PM.
i will go back and catch up...... but for now, hello ladies!
Thanks for all asking after Lu, i wasn't being rude and ignoring ya'll, our house was hit by lightening and blew up our phones and satellite internet bits and bobs. So i have been without communication. It's nearly killing me! lol
As suggested by the wise and wonderful MD, Lu had an ear and throat infection which was probably causing the junky eyes. One lot of AB's and still no improvement. The poor little thing was miserable, but round 2 of a different AB seems to be fixing things finally. I really try to avoid AB when possible, but the poor little thing was pretty sick. She had a fever for 6 days and i presume a headache/earache as she kept hitting her head. Fortunately she is sleeping ok again. We were getting up every 45 min with her for a few nights there. That was no fun! Guess it it good practice for when the next one comes though.
Anyway, enough of my whinging! Down at my folks for the weekend so trying madly to catch up on all my bits and pieces. will be around for the next days, so will try and catch up.
MD - YES I am reading the Jenny McCarthy book, can hardly put it down. Went down to the library today and got it out and I'm practically finished it. You are right, she is very convincing. Oh really I didnt know they cut out a part of the vaccine, is that the mercury bit? Wow you are organised with your chrissy shopping, I havent even thought about it yet.
Trillian - I like your thoughts on vaccinations, but so far I've kept up to date with M and more than likely I will keep going with it. I am too much of a worry wort, and I guess I have M in daycare so I have that to worry about as well. I read today that they have another MMR shot, is that right do you know?
Falguni - POOR LU! She must have been miserable, so glad the ab's are working.
Expecting a rough night here tonight, noticed before that M has two teeth coming through, a littly at the front and one of the big nasties at the bottom back.
hello lovelies
well im just waiting for the lady to come and talk to me about the catologue stuff she should be here any minute so if i pop off thats why n ill come back after.. basically im going to quit coz i hate it and im starting avon now anyways..mmmmmmm
well ashas been so naughty lol her sleep routine is so weird she sleeps through the night one night till round 830 then the next day till 7 then the next day till quatre to 6 and then the next night she wakes up around 3 to come to bed, stops sleeping through for a few nights and then we start again.. its sooooo hard to adjust to ahhhhh drives me mad!!!
we had gymberoo yesterday and she was so cheeky the whole time running all over the place and not doing what she was supposed to lol on the plus side tho her avo sleep was an hour and 40mins that aftrnoon so i had a nice rest then..
eeek brb
ok well thet was pretty painless.. the lady understood as she has kids too n asha in the pram for that amount of time equals not fun!! so ill finish it all up and be free of it.. glad she came by herself she much less intimidating then the other manager which i will see when i put all my orders in that i do have but since ive already broken the news to her hell already know so hopefully itll be ok...
ok back to it then..
re the vaccinations etc i am actually worried about continuing to vaccinate asha because i did see a clear change in her behaviour after the 1yo vaccinations.. dp says its just her age but something dosnt feel right iykwim.. i am unsure what to do now tho because ive vaccinated her for this long and im not sure what would happen if i stopped iykwim?? idk i guess i need to look into it more and look at my options..
falguni - hows lu today???
anyways ladies i have read but my brain is fried and i cant remember anything lol.. hope everyone has a wonderful day!!
Last edited by *noni*e*; November 21st, 2008 at 07:19 AM.
its on the 5/12. I'm not worried but I am kwim? I think I'm more worried about having a general anaesthetic LOL. But I am looking forward to it if I means I can just get on with things again. that's great that you didn't have a sign of it with the 14wk test. My best friend had it with her first and she got a high reading at the 14wk test with her second and she ended up with it quite bad again, but she is predisposed to it anyway as she was older and overweight etc. My Mum got it with her last term pg very bad (again she was predisposed to it) and after my brother was born she had a surprise pg (thought she was starting menopause) and her levels skyrocketed to nearly 50. She had to end the pg as it was too risky for her health to continue it. Oh and fingers crossed the new owners of the house are happy to either let you stay, or stay long enough so you aren't moving with a newborn.
I can totally get why you wouldn't want that celebration to turn into a quasi-Christmas because that would sort of defeat the purpose of not celebrating it I suppose.
Seriously how HARD is it to spend 20 mins in Big W picking something out for a 1 year old) and her Grandma who's always done the chrissy shopping is now nearly blind and has trouble getting out. 
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