Babies Born September 2007 #46

Ohhh Rainy why did you mention top secret maternity, now I am all clucky looking at their clothes! Beautiful dresses, thats very kind of you to offer them for PAP's use. I agree, this is the only support I get when it comes to the MIL, it helps to have somewhere to talk about it all. I love your new relationship with your MIL hehehe

PAP - I'm curious about the fdc issues as well, I thought it was all going well?

Trill - Ha I would be tempted to sell them as well! ;)

Cally - Yes I read your status update about the bat on FB & wondered what was going on! What a nice suprise before bed, not lol.

Arte - Oh thats a bummer, but maybe it will make it more exciting for you as the due date approaches? Or are you like me, & HAVE to know?! :)

MD - Yep think you are right about the MIL, such a hard one isnt it.

We had a shocker of a night here last night. I had been asleep for half an hr when M woke up screaming the house down, & it continued for hours on end until she finally collapsed from exhaustion at 4am. Of course it was a night when DH was away & I needed advice, so I had to call the 24 hr medical hotline thingo. I wasnt sure whether I could give her panadol & painstop - looking at the boxes now DUH big no no, but I was so confused in my sleep deprived desperate state lol. Anyway I am pretty sure that its her ears again as they were playing up before we went away & she kept sticking her fingers in them. She was so upset last night I was waiting for her ear/s to perforate, thats how upset she was. However no fluid coming from the ears this morning so I am unsure. Cant get into the bl00dy doctor as usual, but I have a script for ear ache antibiotics. Tempted to just go to the chemist & get it but it would be nice to speak to a doctor to confirm that this is definately it.

I got her in to the doc thank god, I dont think I put the pressure on enough when I called earlier.

Hi girls!

just a quickie as in all honesty not sure if i can stay upright long enough!

MM: oh jeez. what a night! that is really tough, esp on your own.

Arte: oohhh ahhh! will have to check out the new FB group LOL! mm mmm how exclusive dahlings! LOL!

MD: woot toota tooo on the study! we can like be virtual study buddies now. (ie lark off to coffee breaks at the same time ;)).

Sherie: that is so wrong of your mil. so wrong. urgh.

Cally: :o a bat in your house...eekk!

Rainy: cool news that the boys are beginning to nap together! i hope you got a nice cuppa and a biccy in before one of them woke up! our friends have their two kidlets fairly close in age and their youngest is now almost 4 months and they said that they have in the last 4 weeks emerged from the crazy and have found a very cool new normal ITMS. it's a bummer that the newborn stuff is so hard because they are so gosh darn gorgeous. maybe they have to be!! LOL!

AFM: well still sick and getting sicker. having pretty major blackouts today and big time disorientation. so have confined myself to my office and will not move until DH comes to pick me up with Leila. 5 more sleeps til i start my begging routine with the ENT...bring it on!
ATM leila is being so cute! whenever she says goodbye to ppl she yells out 'bye bella!' LOL! so funny.

cool about the doc appt. as i am learning quickly you really do need to be a psycho to get anywhere near medical help these days LOL!

hi all
clare - you poor thing - it sounds awful! that ENT better do something for you. big hugs. glad dh is there and not off in the gong or something
MM glad you got dr appt - it sounds terrible... i hope they sort it out for you (and M). is Dh back tonight so he can do some of the night shift if she is bad again?
arte - i pm'd you. thanks so much for setting up a group - and so sorry to be the PITA that makes you all have to do it that way!
oh i didnt realise i hadnt explained the fdc situation properly - you must all wonder what i am going on about... ok will try to make this short. i think you prob remember a while back N went into back up care when my carer was ill? i was v happy with the back up and shocked at how much more stimulation and structure there was (from things like telling me what he def ate and what he didnt of all the masses of food i packed, how long he slept for etc plus all the activitie she had planned) - and i called and asked fdc if i could switch him at some pt as i thought it was better for hima nd also gave them some 'feedback' on our carer now. i like her a lot and i know she cares a lot for N but she babies him and to be honest i do not think he gets enough out of her now he is older - shewas FAB when he was 7 months old... anyway nota lot has changed and i know the fdc scheme has tried with training and structure but she 'cheats' the system a bit - ie makes up what they have done etc etc, she never goes to the organised play group etc etc. i have spoken to the coordinators 3 timesabout it and i am still not happy. she has 4 toddlers and a small room with a huge dining table in it and worst of all a MASSIVE plasma tv (which is on all the time i now know...). she also ofetn has her grandkids there, another 3-4 kids - in this tiny room.... i think she holds N all the time and possibly he sleeps in her arms or perhaps on a couch (i have had inklings of this but not known itall and put it together like this - i feel like an idiot now). anyway the last 3 wks he has been in back up at 2 diff places - both wonderful. lots of outdoor time, heaps of toys and activities, lots of feedback for me at the end of each day and always sleeping in a portacot (and telling me how long for etc). he has come along in leaps and bounds - esp his gross motor skills- and he has been very happy at both places (after he settled in). DH and I wanted to sawp him but again they have no places. anyway one of them (who just had him for 2 days) spoke to me about him - she said she was mentioning as she could see how involved a parent i am (numerious ph calls, lunch etc etc) - that she was upset about him bc she had seen him once or twice with my carer and thought he was a small baby bc she is always holding him - when she has gone to playgroup she holds him in her lap and he doesnt play much (v bizarre, so not his personaliity) - and that at her house they watch tv all day, sit in a small room etc etc. she said she was so surprised by how active he is and into everything and that heis more that way thanmany kids - but not given the opp with her... basially confirmed everything i suspected. i hacve loved seeing him blossom the last few weeks.. and i am torn - they dont have spaces... but i dont want to leave him where he is. i have spoken to her a lot and she is dismissive of my views and this morning when DH dropped N off he was saying how he walks around alot now, wants to be outside, must go to playgroup etc etc and she was quite dismissive of that - oh he gets lots of cuddles here, i adore him, he is my favourite etc. it is hard. i know she loves him - and i think some of it may be tied up tohaving him so young and also maybe her son who died (she babies him maybe bc of that??) but we are not getting what we need. i guess if they do not have any more spaces at a more suitable carer i may go the creche route (though have to get him into one i am happy with). i think she is more like a 'babysitter' to be honest and that isnt enough for him now... anyway thats it in a big nutshell - any advice welcome!!
Rainy - thanks so mich for your offer - you are so sweet. i may take you up on the offer - need to think what i will do fo rmy cousins wedding...
Cally - ooh the bat thing sounds awful! i bet you were checking there werent any others in there!
Arte - my scan said 19-22 wk morphology on the referral so i guess that may be the parameters?

cally- that bat story sounds crazy!! i woud've been screaming my head off!!

arte- could you drop will off at occasional care or a friend's place just for an hour or so? it's so hard to do anything isn't it? wait till you have 2!!! lol

pap- yeah it does sound likeshe babies him/holds him too much...but it's hard cos it sounds like she really adores him. i don't like the idea of so many kids in that one room....sounds very stuffy and squashed! what a shame the other lady has no places available...

mm- you are so clucky!!! lol did you recognise me flashing my boob in the topsecret dress? ha ha
hope M's ear gets sorted

clare- thanks for sending me that ray of hope!!! i love hearing stories like that...so i've only got 2-3more months till it all feels a lot easier?? ahhhh...

sherie- yes i agree with you about my mil. no-one has ever stood up to her before. you should've seen the way she was dressed when they came down here- full make up, dripping in jewlerry, new outfit..whereas my sil reckons she's usually wearing trackies around her. full sign of intimidation i reckon, i love it!!!
nice new av..what's that in the background?

i just tried to upload pics to our fb group and it didn't work!!!gggrrr

eta-it's ok, just took some of lewis sitting next to me on the couch watching tv and they worked!

OMG!!!!!!!!!! RAINY!!! Its you HAHA! I didnt even look at the face just the dress. OMG You look STUNNING! You model you. How come you never told us!?

Clare - Gosh I feel for you, this is just beyond a joke :(

PAP Must admit I havent read your post as I am about to rush out the door to the doc, but will read it when I get back

ha ha, i did mention it a bit a little while ago....it's not all me, i'm just the one with the darker hair showing the breastfeeding function in some of the new season pics...they took heaps of me breastfeeding lewis but haven't used them

It's a washing basket full of clothes LOL.

G, you will be fine before you even realise it. One day you'll have a lightbulb moment and realise that everything has gotten just that little bit easier. Of course there will still be crappy times of the day, like around here it's always been from 5-7pm which is bath, fed and bed time, but now they are older it's not too bad and they go to bed later so it's not a huge rushing drama.

Clare, :hug: I wish I was there so I could come around and give you a hand while you're sick. Fingers crossed you don't get too much sicker and you stay conscious - that's just scary to think about.

PP, as *nice* as she is and all that and she obviously treats him *well*, it's still not enough and he needs more stimulation at this age as you're finding out. Do the other parents that use this carer have the same concern? Do you think they even have a clue what goes on with her? I know all the FDC'ers around here have to submit their care plans etc for the quarter and they all go to playgroup. So I find it really hard to comprehend why no one is taking this seriously and following up on it. I hope it all works out for you in the end though.

Oh no H! She's had such a bad run with her ears. So how did the appt go? Is it OK to use the script you have?

PP - far out. Yes you really need to do something...like you said she was wonderful 12 months ago but N's needs have changed and it sounds like she is no longer meeting them. In a big way. The having-of-the-FDC children in a single room of the house is my Big Warning Sign...to run a mile! I have found the best carers share their living space with the kids - it shows a more relaxed and integrated attitude IMO. Both of the carers E is going to now have a main play room but the kids also share the regular family areas in the house, incl having roaming access to garden play areas. That's kind of weird that she's always holding him...gotta wonder how that will change now that he's walking. Keep networking with the 2 ladies you like though, you never know when a place might come up and it could be perfect timing for you in the future, kwim?

ETA - Trill I thought it was some sort of pyschadelic prison cage. PMSL.

The constant holding thing is a worry too - especially if she was holding him the whole time he slept - how was she caring for the other children adequately at the same time? I think the possible safety implications could be one avenue you take when talking to them, because they last thing they want is a carer who puts the children at possible risk.

thanks for making me feel like i am not over-reacting - esp you MD with all you FDC experience. the room they play in is part of the house - their living room - that kinda annoys me as it isnt set up for the kids. the others had a miuch better set up - play areas and free roaming around as well. she does have an outdoor area they go in, but it is not free for them and only part of the garden/deck and cramped... oh i hate thinking about it... will get it sorted... i am worried he will not walk as much at her place... and i thought when he crawled the holding would stop but it doesnt seem to have. he is such an affectionate thing that i think he just thinks this is what he does with her. grrrrrrrrr. anyway going to see the director at fdc on friday so hoping we sort it out.
sherie - i thought it was a birdcage!! LOL! impressed it is in a washing basket - my washing is either on the line, or on the couch in the spare room. hmm gotta get onto that LOL!
MM how did dr go
Rainy - you are SUCH a spunky yummy mummy!

Well I feel like a bit of a fool now because after all that its not her ears. They are a bit fluidy but shouldnt be causing her troubles. The only other thing I can think of is, she seems to have eaten a hell of alot of sandpit sand at daycare yesterday as she has been doing lots of # 2's filled with sand, sorry if tmi. I wonder if this could cause an upset tummy? I always automatically think ears due to her history & she kept putting her fingers in them!

PAP - I see what you mean, what a hard situation. She obviously cares for N a great deal, but yes he does need more stimulation now days. Its a shame that they cant fit him in. I agree with everything MD has said, as for the tv, thats no good! I dont like that one bit.

Rainy - Ok I remember now, wow you look so hot!

If she's eaten a fair bit of sand, it could be that she has an upset belly and just needs to get it all out. It would be a fair amount of work on her bowel to process it cause it can't be digested kwim? Just give her loads of water and some juice to help keep her poos soft.

I think I'm going to tweak my av if you all don't know what it was ROFL.

Probably what it is Trillian. Haha feel like such a fool now.

Yum I've recently discovered fish fingers for M for dinner, she loves them, accompanied by veges. Also found in the health food isle packs of cheese rice cracker wheel thingos, they are awesome little snacks, baked not fried, not msg etc etc. So check them out!!

Oh don't feel like a fool, it's just one of those things. I brought those rice wheels things a while ago, mainly for the older kids but I can't stand the smell of them!! They are just foul so I don't buy them now. I just stick to the sakata's cause he loves them - he didn't really go much on the rice wheels, the older kids liked them though. We resort to good old fish fingers sometimes too - he really likes them.

MM, I have heard they can get pretty upset tummies from too much sand

PAP, I'll throw in my two cents - Obviously the current FDC lady doesn't feel right for your family anymore. I can see that FDC would be a nice option for more one-on-one for a little bubba, but if she is still treating him like a small bub then that is not good - at this age they need stimulation, that is the biggest advantage of out of home care. Perhaps a creche is a good option, he is a bigger boy now and it sounds like there are just as many kids at FDC so he isn't really getting the lower carer/kid ratio anyway. Do you have a gut feeling that she may be part of the reason he has taken longer to walk? I hope you can sort something out with FDC on friday.

I think the FB group is all secret now, shouldn't show up on any profile searches

Girls I have been trying so hard all day to keep up but can't.

MM yucko at eating all that sand. I hope you have a better night tonight. L loves cheese Rice wheels.

Arte great work on the group!

PP I hope you get the FDC sorted quickly.

I went and seen BIL tonight, he is so drugged out. They have decided not to operate but he had CT scan to check the internal bleeding and we get the results tomorrow. He is in for a long recovery. I think he (and his GF) will come to stay with us for a while as he has lots of steps to get into his house. He was living here last time I was PG too lol. Told him he will have to hold my hand if he is still here and I have a homebirth lol.

Haha hillarious Oz, that will be an eye opener for him!

Think I may have to mention it at daycare next week, please watch M when outdoors, she loves to eat sand & dirt lol. Its still coming out...

hi everyone
i've read all your posts, and commented in my brain, but there's just too much to type at this time of night! lol.
Katie - i hope bil results are good ones tomorrow. I think he's lucky to have a fabuluous sil like you :)
mm- i hope M has a good night's sleep.
arte - thanks for setting up our private group :) Preg - I saw another person's pic and I thought - Hey, who's that gate crashing!! and then i had a light bulb moment, and shouted (silently of course) "pregagainpan!!!!!!!"
pp - one of my close friends had a similar situation to yours. She ended up sending her son to a child care centre - as he was ready for the extra stimulation.
trill - i have to thank you for suggesting the Dairy Farmers squeezy yoghurt. All the girls love them! I found it hard to find a yoghurt that Jess likes - because she doesn't like 'bits'. They don't seem to have any nasties in them either.
Another snack i have found that Hannah likes is the Healtheries 'Roast Potato - potato Stix, crunchy potato and rice snacks.

Was thinking how nice it would be to have our own playgroup - all the kids playing out in the back yard - and then I had visions of Hannah crash tackling all of your beautiful children to the ground. She goes in for a hug and doesn't let go - ends up taking the victim down to the ground.

Anyway, hello to all you other lovelies that I have missed.
sweet dreams everyone :)

JaZaH, there is a little girl at mothers group who tackles the kids with cuddles. She always looks perplexed when her victim is rescued, like she doesn't understand why they didn't want her 'Ruby love' as we call it. She is the most spirited little person I have ever met, like she has no time to waste being a baby and desperately wants to be a big girl.

Ozstar, so are things a bit better with his back than they initially thought? It is horrible seeing people in hospital like that, I will always remember when BIL got a head injury in a car accident and couldn't recognise his own parents. The looks on the IL's faces was so sad.

Arte - thanks so much for setting up the FB group. It's great to see those extra little toddlers!!

PAP - that does sound like you need to find another carer. I can't believe that they don't seem to be taking your concerns seriously at the office. Hopefully by talking to the director you will get some sort of response / direction for what to do now. You probably know this, but if you talk up how good she was when he was smaller, but he is ready for more stimulation now that he is bigger they might not be so defensive about it all IYKWIM?

Jaz - I think K could give H some lessons on bowling over - she swiped two kids on Friday because they were standing between her and DH when he came to pick her up. He said they went flying!

MM - at least it was only a bit of sand that was wrong with M not a perforated eardrum!! Poor little thing, it would be very hard to digest.

Trill - did you change your av already, I can't see anything in the background apart from your 4 lovely children!

Well all is good here. No bats last night came to visit, I even had time to do a load of ironing and washing.

Is it ridiculously warm for everyone else? 30 degrees here today. My poor plants are getting so confused, it was cooling down now it is warming up again. We've just moved onto Level 2 water restrictions which basically makes it impossible for me to do any watering (odds and even system, but only between 5 and 7 in the evening - whoever put that together did not work and have a little one to feed, bath etc!!) Hopefully it cools down soon.

Hi girls,

Just popped in for a quick hello

Oz- hope you BIL is ok.

Ok something funny happened this morning. DH let Liv run around the morning with no cloths on and she dropped some nuggets on my floor in my bedroom. OMG I had a heat attack... lol now The boys had never pooped on the floor before... we asked her what she did and she said poopie...lol now only if she could start to do it on the potty. Oh she did do a wee on the potty the other day.

ok better go I have heaps of work to do.

hello to everyone

where is everyone??
i'm off to a party today for a friend who has a dd born oct07 and is due with dd2 in a couple of weeks..very exciting. hopefully my boys are well behaved!

jimmy has put on 600gms in 2 weeks and is now up to lewis' birthweight of 4.6kg.
i took lewis to the playcentre with a couple of friends yesterday and he ran around like crazy for 3hours!! he was sooo hyped up last night and was jumping all over dh when he got home from work and diving into his arms off the coffee table. too funny!

have a lovely day everyone xox

I"m sure they will be fine G. Everyone will be too busy cooing over that gorgeous baby boy. Sounds like he's going to be a big boy like his brother.

ROFL Leanne, thats too funny! At least it was pebbles iykwim ;)

Quickie from me as I have to log off and start packing because we're off to the zoo for the weekend at Dubbo. So I will see you all on Tuesday

Morning Girls,

Rainy- lol at L jumping off the coffee table... WTG Jimmy . Have fun at the party
Sherie- Hope you have a great time at the zoo.
Jazmum- how cute about H hugs.

Well all good here no complaints. Just glad its friday too.

It's gone quiet in here again, hasn't it?

Leanne, well done on Livvie knowing about poopie. I think Missy E is still an unconscious crapper!

Rainy - holy moley on little Jimmy's growing - he sure is thriving hun! Enjoy your baby party today. I'm sure L will be a charmer and you won't see J for him being handed around LOL.

JaZaH - I want to join your Playgroup! Don't worry, Missy E can stand up for herself against crash-tackling, she has the superpower of ear-bleeding-squeals. LOL

Trill - enjoy the zoo. You'll have to tell me all about it - we wanted to go while we were over there but DH never had enough time off work/at home to make it happen.

Cally - your bat story was pretty funny. Did you lure it inside with a mango or something? LOL Sorry that's a Darwin joke - people with mango trees in their backyards know ALL about fruitbats!! I saw on the telly the same day that the bat babies have curved teeth so they can grip onto their mothers nipples (oooooooow!)...even when she's flying along! OMG I'm not surprised they are a crabby species. Can you imagine towing Katie around the supermarket while she's attached only with her TEETH???!!

Ok, well I'd better be off, supposed to be studying today but trying to distract myself with more pleasant things as I have an appt to get my results this afternoon. My mind is calm but my body is churning.

MD - send out big good luck vibes for this afternoon. Everything crossed that you are AOK.

OMG, clutching on by teeth only!! So glad I'm not a bat!!

Trill - have a great weekend at the zoo, I'm sure the kids will love it. Are you going to bike around it?

Rainy - my DH would be having kittens if K was jumping off the coffee table!! Have fun at the party!

Leanne - lucky it was nuggets and not a runny one on the carpet!!

PAP - hope your meeting with the FDC director goes well today.

Gosh it is quiet in here. Getting my hair done tomorrow, housewarming for one of DH's friend tomorrow night and then cricket presentations lunchtime bbq on Sunday. Busy weekend in our household!!

hi girls!

JaZ: i am also going to sign up for that playgroup!! and don't worry Leila is also a cuddler. she cant quite knock people over, but probably only cause she hasnt worked out you can yet!

MD: sending lots of hugs your way and hope your body churning has a chat with your calm mind and they can come to some kind of an agreement that = bliss!
i am also meant to be studying. i have 2 chapters of edits to trudge through and yet, i find myself on here....hmmmmm LOL!

Rainy: that is so funny that your friend and you have both had babies at the same time and they are of the opposite sex! hmmmmm, some future matchmaking potential there LOL!
have a great time!

Cally: jealous of the haircut! man i need one.

Sherie: have fun at the zoo! all i really remember from Dubbo was this lady cut me off when i was driving to the zoo. she must have been in a hurry to see the zebras!

Leanne: ah well, the plus is that she knew she had done a poo! LOL! has the car come back yet???

AFM: well all good here. i feel some improvement and i have to say that within hours of starting the homeopathy things took a turn for the good! awesome stuff if you can find the right the person. i'd marry the woman LOL!
Leila is loving the toilet ATM. she did her first wee on there and since then she has been begging to go back on. mostly cause she absolutely LOVES the idea of the toilet paper :rolleyes:...ah well! after she finishes i ask her 'all clean' and she rips out the toilet paper and shows me! LOL! will have to discourage that one me thinks te he he! oh so many 21st stories being stored away.

MD- Hope all goes well this arvo and sending you some good luck vibes...
Clare- LOL Liv loves the potty too but only 1 wee on it so far. She walks around in her undies and then pees and then starts screaming like as if to say whatttt is this coming out of me. Yep got the car back and it is great.
Cally- have fun getting your hair done. I love the hairdressers. and have fun at the
BBQ on sunday.

Clare, well, we're both on here because we're study buddies having a coffee break together, REMEMBER?????! :lol: Tell me more about what immune-boosting regime your marriageable homeopath has you on....I've just started with some milk thistle & supplements for my liver, but will also be getting onto some other targeted nutrients like Selenium, more folate, more antioxidants and omega 3's.

Leanne I think MIssy E might have similar issues with wee when we start TTing...she can't cope with getting sticky food like honey on her fingers (OMG major freakout if the porridge leaves the spoon and DARES to land near her hands). I think we need more mud-pie play in the backyard. :rolleyes:.

MD: oh of COURSE!!!!!!! (pardon the pun) we are study buddies so it all makes sense LOL!

yeah i am on the selenium 500 atm. to replace the yucky ultimately bad-for-you iron supplements, and also on some kind of thing with a name beginning with luchu...something or other...200CH. beh, brain is foggy. what i love about most of the homeopathy treatments is that they are usually one off. so no, buying out the chemist style repeats IYKWIM. can't fault the girl, a couple of months before we were going down the IVF track she asked me to try her first and bingo, we got Leila. love her to bits...but how to break this to DH LOL!!! :D

Leanne: ha ha ha! we are not brave enough to have miss L in undies yet! she has also only done it once in the loo and only cause she was so busy playing with the paper that it just happened.

Had to laugh at all the toilet stories, as I took M to the pools today we had a great time until I noticed a murky trail following her around. She had pooped in her swimming nappy ahhh it was revolting. Needless to say swimming was cut short, much to her dissapointment. Next time pack more swimming nappies mum!

MD - Good luck I am thinking of you today!!

Clare - So whats happened to your cat, is it ok? Thats good that L is wiping on the toilet though, what a clever girl.

Cally - Enjoy your time getting your hair done, child free time yay!

Rainy - Hope the party went well. You are doing a great job with breastfeeding by the sounds of it!!

Trillian - Have a fun weekend at the zoo!

MM: thanks for asking! our cat is doing really well. she has some rather unsexy shave marks all over her where they had to pick out rocks, but other than that she is healing really well!

quickie here - Md I really hope everything goes well this afternoon. :pray:

MD wishing you loads and loads of good luck, :pray: you get some positive results

Fingers crossed for some great results MD!

Huge hugs to MD

Thanks ladies, I have posted in my other thread.