Well im home, Sienna is fed and asleep all snuggled up on me the show wasnt as good as i thought it wld be... the hypnotising didnt work on a lot of ppl. I went straight after it finished and got Sienna from Dads.. she was sound asleep on his lap..but she was doing a little sobbing noise in her sleep every 20 or so seconds! it broke my heart! i asked him how long she had cried for and he said max. 10 mins, which i believe cos i have left her crying for 10 mins wen i was trying to follow this stupid routine and wen she did go to sleep she made that little sobbing/hiccuping noise. Her face wasnt at all red and she wasnt hot so i know she didnt get too worked up.. and i know he wld have called me if he needed too. Was so sad to hear tho Has anyone heard this little noise they do after crying sometimes?? or am i the only mean mummy Wen i got in the car i just burst into tears... i know she was alright.. gosh she did big smiles wen i woke her up and took her from dad but i dont know.. i think i just found it really hard leaving her Shes only made that sobbing sound twice in her life now.. but i never want to hear it again! I didnt show my dad that it upset me too much tho cos i cld tell he had the best couple hrs with her, he is in the middle of painting his house so doesnt have a tv connected at the moment, i asked him wat the hell he did the whole time! he said he just sat there all night holding her while she slept cos she wldnt let him put her down on her sheepskin... haha so cute
So yes that my first and last outing without my little attachment, unless ofcourse its just a quick dash to the shop! Thanks for ur well wishes girls!! xx
Have just put E to bed, hopefully until the morning - (he went through to just before 6 this morning) and Reet saw your update - E has made that noise, and I thought I was a mean mummy too - i know you know you are arent - but I am glad we all seem to be going through similar experiences and feelings!
Shame about the show, but it sounds like your dad had a good night
Thanks for the feedback on the swing Shelly, think i might need to go for a looksy tomorrow!
Reet It is hard to enjoy yourself when you leave bub for the first time, I remember when I left my DD for the first time, she was about 4mts old and DH and I only went for dinner. I had the most terrible time, DH said we were not going out again and till I was more ready.
B had his needles on Friday and seeded to be ok with them. Screamed for about 10 secs and then that was it. He was a little unsettled yesterday but I don't think it was the needles. Yesterday I made sure he feed for a full 20 mins each side and although he threw up a little after most feeds I feed him at 10am last night and he didn't wake till 5:30am and even then he hardly feed at all so I put him back to sleep and woke him up at 7 am to start the day as usual. that continues but I am not holding my breathe. Oh and B has grown 7cm in 6 wks as I had the nurse measure him as the Ped didn't have time to do it.
reet, sterla, kts - well done all of you for going with the cloth nappies! I have taken the easy way out and am adding to the landfill with my sposies, feel a bit guilty but I can live with it.
One thing to keep in mind with cloth, as a baby I had terrible nappy rash with cloth, and mum eventually discovered that I was allergic to fabric softener. I am guessing things are much more gentle these days, but vinegar is a natural alternative.
Sterla - so lovely of you to offer your leftover microfleece to our girls. It feels so warm and fuzzy in here Great to hear that DS is being a perfect big brother.
Leesa - sounds like Bree is thriving! Well done And she seems to be doing well with her blocks of sleep.
Reet - LOL no choice when you are in denial Vibrating cot mattress sounds divine, not sure of side effects on the body for long stretches (all night long), but for 10/15 mins would certainly do the trick! Sienna sounds like a perfect angel, and you guys smitten parents, sounds like you are going really well. Hope you managed to get your shower!
kts - glad to hear that the BF could get better the second time around. Thanks for the reassurance. Hope Bailey didn't scream too much with his needles.
KimB - Lactation cookies? OK I am going to have to look them up now, all these things I am learning for next time. I was using Fenugreek capsules but they didn't really do much. Just reading your sig, you have quite a brood there! Was Phoebe #6?
Sah - hope Ethan is OK with his needles on Tuesday. Yes, it did feel like a weight had been lifted when I stopped expressing, I felt a bit guilty too but I soon got over that.
Kellbell, ezymay, jaycee - hope you are all doing well, and getting the sleep you need.
Jacob has his 6 week checkup at 7w2d, he is now 5.34kg and 58cm, the Paed said he was "thriving" and called him a "boofa" LOL. He is pretty much out of his 000 suits now and into 00.
Sleep wise he's doing OK, blocks of 2-4 hrs depending on his mood.
Since switching to exclusively formula he's been having problems with constipation. The Paed recommended Coloxyl from the chemist, which we have been trying but doesn't always work, we've found a little bit (2-3ml) of prune juice in a feed works much better. I have read that you shouldnt use prune juice for under 3mths but he doesn't vomit and it works better.
Have had a couple of rough days where I feel a little bit of PND creeping in, so I try to get out in the sunshine for a walk as much as possible, as a bit of exercise and sunshine make me feel SO much better!
J has his 2mth needles booked for this coming Thurs, not looking forward to that!
Hope all you Eastern State girls are enjoying your long weekend! Hope it doesn't rain the whole time! We have sunny blue skies here in Perth but it's a bit chilly. Am tempted to move to Darwin or Cairns for the winter!!
Sah- So did E sleep thru the night again?? If he did ur so lucky!!
Kts- Wow and ur bubba sleeps for ages thru the night too! Ur also very lucky!! Good to hear the needles didnt upset him too much
Shelly- Yeah move to cairns.. Its beautiful weather here! Im in flannelette bottoms and just a bra with all the windows open still. Its just lovely! A lot of cairns ppl call this weather cold tho.. but its probably about 23 degrees still haha. I wldnt be able to stand the cold weather.. altho we did get married in the snow at NZ if u check out my wedding pics on fb.. i was in a strapless dress.. that was freezing! Crazy!
And a vibrating mattress wld be great, i wld only need it to vibrate for a couple minutes.. but i think i will just have to find something new to do once shes in her cot and out of the bassinet which i can shake.. i might have to start patting her to sleep or something..ideally tho it wld be better if she cld just go to sleep on her own!
Sorry to hear ur having a few little pnd moments, im so glad that u know how to make urself feel a bit better.. sunshine works wonders hey! if the sunshine stops working as well tho make sure u do something about it.. see a dr.. we're all here for u too!
Is everyone still sleeping with ur babies in ur room?? Im dreading the day that S doesnt fit in her bassinet anymore and has to move to her own room. I think i will be more anxious not having her right there plus how inconvenient having to get up and go to her for feeds! I love just being able to reach over, pick her up and bring her into bed with me. I dont even have a chair to sit on in her room... i might have to look into getting one..
I feel as tho i am just starting to understand her needs.. like before last week i was just going with the flow, if she didnt just fall asleep then i wldnt bother making her go to sleep.. but then we wld end up with a very grizzley baby! Now i know that after she has a feed, she normally stays awake for an hr.. 2 at the most and then has a sleep, if she doesnt go straight to sleep i get her up and try again after 5 mins, and it always works! If she has a big sleep i try and make sure we do something that is going to stimulate her so she is tired by the time she shld be having a sleep again.. we will go outside and have nudey time on the grass or something (just her..not me! ) I feel as tho we have a bit of a routine going on.. but it just doesnt have set times. I have heaps of time in my day tho to get stuff done which is great! Altho... I do hear from ppl that as soon as u feel like ur getting to know ur babies patterns they will go and change it all anyway... so we'll see how we go over the next few weeks!
Another question.. have ur babies eyes started changing colour?? Siennas eyes are still bright blue, both dh and I have brown eyes tho so we are just assuming that she will as well.. but they havent changed at all since birth. Does anyone know when they are meant to change??
Oh and one more question.. whos still in newborn nappies??? We are only just fitting into them still.. i dont think she wld fit into huggies ones anymore but shes still fitting into the woolworths select brand.. so thats what im using! I want S to stay as my little newborn for a while longer! Dh gets back on the weekend so next week we will go and get her weighed, 2 weeks ago she was 4.3kgs, im thinking she will be around the 5kg mark now, maybe bigger!
Anyway better get to bed, S has been asleep for 2 hrs already.. im missing out on important sleep by spending too much time on here! nite nite!!
SB - Its good to hear that our bubs are putting on weight and are 'boofa's'. My biggest fear is that B will get sick and not have enough weight on to get him by. What formula are you using, I have read many a thread on hear about some formulas causing constipation and others don't. Good on you for recognising the PND syptoms and even a bigger good on you for then taking steps to try and keep it at bay. Just remember we are all hear if you need to get anything out.
Reet - Yes B is still in our room although he is very noisy sleeper, but its too cold here to get up to him during the night so he will stay in our room until it gets warmer. B eyes are brownish but then sometimes they look more blue, I am pretty sure it can take months for their eyes to get to the colour it will stay. B is also out of newborn nappies so I have started using cloth, although the weather is horrible and raining I'm not really sure it is the smartest move at the moment. I am going to do disposable overnight though.
AFM- Well B's long sleep the night before last he made up for last night by waking three times for a feed and then not going back to sleep after waking at 5:15 for a feed. I'm not too worried, he is only 6 ish weeks old. I am trying to keep a positive attitude about it in that it won't be forever, this is our last child so I am trying to enjoy every 'stage'.
Well, I hope the weather is better in other parts of Australia that it is here. Rain rain and more rain!!
Well its yet again another rainy day here in Sydney.
I don’t mind the rain, but it feels never ending this weekend.
Hoping it stops later tonight – we are hoping to head into the city to check out the lights that are a part of the Vivid Sydney festival –it’s the last night tonight, so fingers crossed!
Shelly – lucky you being able to get some sun, and as the girls said, good on you for being so in tune with yourself that you can acknowledge that you might not be feeling right.
what formula are you using? We are using NAN HA Gold – and don’t have any probs – it was the one the hospital gave us when I was topping him up when I was there – and they advised it was easy to digest so helped with constipation etc.
Also – was hard to get my head around that a FF bub doesn’t poop as often as a BF bub! Hopefully the prune juice continues to help.
(BTW - what a great idea! I wouldn’t have thought of it, and will keep it in mind in case E has problems down the track>)
I’m hoping to be able to get out for some walks with E this week when DH goes back to work. We have been doing loads with him off – and I don’t want to get into the habit of being stuck at home now he is going back to work, as I know that will have a big effect on me.
I will be going to Mothers group for the first time this Friday, so hopefully it works out ok.
Reet – lucky you on your weather too! Its freezing down here!
Don’t know how you did NZ snow for your wedding?!
Its great when you really start to get to know what bub is doing and you get that little routine happening – even if its only for a few days!
And yes, we have been lucky with Ethan – last night we got 6.5 hours out of him.
Lucky for us he loves his bath – he really relaxes in them – to the point he falls asleep – so we have made that our bedtime ritual – bath, feed, sleep at around 1030 or so and he’s down until about 5ish or so. At the moment! I am sure it will change very soon!
I was going to ask about eye colour too – E’s are still that bluey/grey colour and I am certain he will have dark eyes like us – mine are a dark hazel brown, and DHs are hazel- but do some times go grayish. I guess time will tell.
We are still in newborn nappies here – but by the sounds of it – Ethan is still a bit smaller at this stage.
Ethan is in his own room – has been since we came home, except for maybe 2 nights – it didn’t work for any of us – I think we all kept each other up. His room is across the hallway so if both doors are open I can him – and I have the baby monitor too.
I should really stop babbling now – will be back in soon!
Hi everyone sorry I haven't been around much, it's been full on. I got mastitis again and this time had no DH to help out, luckily my sister and dad came to the rescue.
Mishy had his needles today, a bit later cause he's been a bit sick. I had forgotten about the appointment and was just in the Drs dropping something off and she told me was I there for Hamish??? Baby brain!!
Anyway he hated the needles and I had Em with me to and it upset her seeing Mishy so sad he is 5.48kgs and 60cm long!! Quite tall I think? I'm still pumping and only need to cover one feed with formula every couple of days.
He is out of newborn nappies but use a few cloth, I didn't get heaps of smalls. He is still in my room. He has lost that newborn look now too he's like a proper baby ifykwim? DH will bs home this weekend he won't recognize him, it's been 4 weeks!
Anyway it sound likes everyone us doing well. I promise to keep in touch more!
Well it's a dreary one here in Perth today, rainy and cold. Plus I have a stinker of a cold so am having a doona day Not looking forward to J catching it, kinda inevitable I think.
Sah - did you check out the lights? Sucks about your DH going back to work today. Like Sterla said, I hope the day turns out better than you expect.
Reet - OMG I just checked out your wedding pics, they are awesome! And yeah, not surprised you were cold bbrrrrr! Cairns would be so lovely right now, I'm sure Sienna is loving all the nudey time you can give her! Hopefully J can have some nudey time when we go and visit my sister on the GC at the end of August. I too am getting the hang of Baby Bear's cries and figuring out what he wants, and generally feeling more confident. I've been told it doesn't last long cos the bubs like to mix things up a bit and keep us mums on our toes!
kts - we are using S26 Gold formula, as it's what the hospital used and we have just carried on as we had no idea! And yes I think it takes a while for bubs to get their eventual eye colour. How are you going with starting on the cloth? Hope you got more of a sleep in this morning than yesterday!
AFM... Jacob is 8 weeks old today! The time has flown so fast, he's not a newborn anymore awwww
Jake still has blue eyes, but they are getting less grey and more blue so I think that's what he will end up with (DH and I both have blue eyes).
Like Sah, we have J in his own room and has been since we came home. it didn’t work for us to have him in the same room as just like Sah we all kept each other up. We can hear him easily enough from our room.
The cradle swing is still awesome but now J will only sleep in there during the day. If I try to put him in the cot during the day he just whinges until I put him in the swing. Gah!
As for the PND, I suffered a bit from depression when I was doing IVF at the same time as having issues at work, so am aware of the symptoms. Luckily it wasn't bad enough to go on medication, just fortnightly visits to the psych to chat. Don't feel anywhere near as bad as that at the moment, just a couple of difficult days in the last 2 months. At least now I can have chocolate and a little bit of wine! And knowing you girls are looking out for me helps too
It just sucks having a cold cos I can't have as many baby cuddles as i'd like!
Gotta check the letterbox as i'm expecting something. Hope you're all managing to stay warm and dry!
Shell - yep- we made it in to the lights on Monday night - the rain held off and it wasnt as cold as the other nights thank goodness.
Glad to hear J is in his own room too - I was starting to question myself about doing it!
Thought i was a bad mummy
I cant believe it was 8 weeks yesterday that E was born - eek!
Time is going too fast.
Hi Ezymay - that sux about the mastitis
sounds like you do have a tall boy on your hands!
I am sure your DH is looking forward to seeing you all.
Hi Everyone else - have to be quick today - loads to do.
AFM - all good here - Ethan was fantastic yesterday with his needles. Let out one little scream, then snuggled in for some cuddles.
We then hit the shops after, and all the grandmas out, stopped us to chat and coo over him!
It definitely makes doing the grocery shopping a lot longer task.
The vaccinations must of tired him out or something (??) - he went down to sleep at 630 last night and didn't wake up until just before 6am this morning - i woke up a couple of times during the night and had to check up on him as i was worried.
And he has slept most of today too - except for a couple of quick feeds and changes.
DH went back to work yesterday - think it was harder on him than us. Sent him some pictures during the day - dont know if that made it harder or easier for him.
Quick question for those of you returning to work - when are you going back?
Sah - I am going back in October, not sure when in Oct yet. Although I am still doing some work from home in the mean time. I'm worried about how I am going to manage the house and work when I go back. So I am busily trying to work it out. DH will do some of the housework, well the washing and washing up when I go back but I can be a bit of a clean freak so I am my own worse enemy when it comes to the house being tidy. At this stage I am going back full time but going to talk to the boss as I would love 3 days but I think I will be able to negotiate and do 4, the other day I will devote to housework so I can have the weekends for the family.
I'd be interested tgo hear what you ladies are doing?
Im planning on going back in November - like you not sure when!
I am bit worried, my job involves lots of travel, not sure how I will cope with it.
I have been thinking this week, to perhaps extend my leave until March, and maybe go back 4 days... Not sure how i will go extending it - i may miss it before then!
Too many decisions.
Like you kts64s, I am worried about the housework - i like a clean house, and want to be able to keep that in order too!
My DH keeps telling me we dont live in display home, but i like things in their place
Sahbear- I managed goig back to work ft with DD and kept the house pretty 'display home' like. DH makes that comment to me too. Once you get the hang of it and get a routine going you'll be ok. I'm just not sure if I can do the same with two kids this time around. Ah I can't believe we are thinking about work already. Time is flying my little man is growing too quick.
Now to just figure out how to stop time....
I hope the rest of you girls are doing ok and your bubs are being good for you.
Went to my first mothers group session today - and it was surprisingly really good.
Was nice to meet other ladies in my area with new bubs!
Will definitely keep going for the organised sessions for the next month, and I am hoping some of us will continue on afterwards.
Just wanted to come in and say DH IS COMING HOME TODAY!!! WOOHOOOOO!!! No more nappies for me til next monday!! Haha well i hope so anyway. Pity he doesnt have a booby that she can suck on as well haha.
Little Miss Sienna has been going really well, and this morning she has been fabulous! We only got out of bed at 9.30am.. we had cuddles since about 6.30 wen she woke up. I had a shower and she was more then happy to just watch me in her swing, it was a bit cold so i was in there for like 20 mins defrosting! And now i have just come out to the living room and shes laying on the couch watching the tv like a good little girl! I love that they are happy to just lay there and look around now.. have u girls noticed that in the last couple weeks??
Its funny Shelly and Kellbell both commented on a picture in my fb album (pm me if u want to be friends on there!) that Sienna is getting so big... im guessing theres arent as big at this age???! haha. That wld be right, i give birth to the littlest baby in this group and she ends up being the biggest chubba wubba in here! haha. I hope dh recognises her after being away for 3 weeks!
We are going to go and get her weighed wen she gets her needles next week (waited for needles cos i wanted dh to be there) She was 4.3kgs 3 weeks ago, im guessing shes well over the 5kg mark now!
To answer ur question about going back to work, im hoping i never have too again! haha maybe im dreaming??! We are both keen to have another baby as soon as my body is ready though, im guessing that wont be for a while since im b'fing and it can take up to 12 months... ill just have to be patient!
Oh and well done to u girls not sleeping with babies in the same room, its going to be so much more harder to get Sienna out of our room in a couple months wen shes too big for her bassinet. For one, i shake the bassinet so she goes to sleep and i cant do that with her cot.. and 2.. ive become lazy with feeds! I dont want to have to get up and go to her room and feed her in the middle of the night! I might start off with a mattress on her floor or something. Im not looking forward to it at all!
Ezymay- How long is ur dh home for?? I bet he noticed the change in ur little man. Its so sad our dhs have to leave their babies So sorry to hear that ur mastitis came back again.. what a struggle
Anyway i better get off.. Sienna keeps doing these cute sighs like 'am i still laying here!'
Have a good weekend! Its beautiful and sunny here!
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the show wasnt as good as i thought it wld be... the hypnotising didnt work on a lot of ppl. I went straight after it finished and got Sienna from Dads.. she was sound asleep on his lap..but she was doing a little sobbing noise in her sleep every 20 or so seconds!
it broke my heart! i asked him how long she had cried for and he said max. 10 mins, which i believe cos i have left her crying for 10 mins wen i was trying to follow this stupid routine and wen she did go to sleep she made that little sobbing/hiccuping noise. Her face wasnt at all red and she wasnt hot so i know she didnt get too worked up.. and i know he wld have called me if he needed too. Was so sad to hear tho
that continues but I am not holding my breathe. Oh and B has grown 7cm in 6 wks as I had the nurse measure him as the Ped didn't have time to do it.
Vibrating cot mattress sounds divine, not sure of side effects on the body for long stretches (all night long), but for 10/15 mins would certainly do the trick! Sienna sounds like a perfect angel, and you guys smitten parents, sounds like you are going really well. Hope you managed to get your shower!
That sucks sahbear! Good luck! I hope the day turns out better than you expect.
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