Babies Born ~ April 2013 #1

Harri, I'm glad you have a contented baby, keep enjoying it :-)

Willow, thanks for sharing your experiences, it's great to hear your perspective and what you've learnt along the way. The food intolerances thing is very difficult to work out, and definitely it's normal for babies to be unsettled without food being the cause. I agree with everything you've said. I only want to test for that possibility for Owen because of how much mucous and reflux he has now (he can't sleep lying down anymore, so is in a sling on me most of the day), and also because DS1 has multiple protein intolerances, which indicates an increased risk that Owen might have that too. I don't know for sure yet if Owen does or doesn't react to any foods, but eliminating them and then rechallenging is the only way for me to find out. You've given me hope for slightly easier teenage years though, fingers crossed.
We're also trialling a low salicylate diet for DS1 starting today, as he has a number of behavioural issues and cannot stop wetting himself during days (he's 4yrs 4 mths, meant to be starting school next year). I only just read on the weekend that salicylate reactions can be linked to urinary problems, plus defiant behaviour, and I've always suspected that he was still reacting to something in his diet, but I didn't know what. Again, just a 2-week trial to see if it makes any difference, I have no idea if it will or not.
Anyway, I'm doing ok through all this - I know things could be worse, and I have great support off my DH every night when he gets home. Makes a huge difference. Hope you all have a good day.

omg im so over daytime Zoe... she is demanding and just constantly cries or screams. She is fine over night so it cant be intolerance's or reflux or it would be constant.

Made app with a chiro who has rave reviews about treating babies... god i need this baby to just stop. My back can not take mac more rocking, bouncing and carrying her around.

Happymum It makes perfect sense for you to be eliminating and challenging things with the history and symptoms! Poor little guy I hope he's more comfortable soon :crossfingers: I'm glad you're coping well too :) Salicylates can be nasty . We didn't seem to have trouble with them, luckily, ours was more additives like flavours and colours in the end. I eliminated all additives for a month and saw improvement after about 3 weeks. It was sleep and behaviour/concentration for DS. He was still waking every 2 hours at night(on a good night) when he was nearly 2 he slept through the night after 3 weeks of no additives :hooray: it was like Christmas and it was lol it was Christmas eve :D After the month we introduced some again but not those related to sleep and behaviour then the others and worked out which were an immediate reaction or build up. I ccraved some Red Rock Deli chips one day after we'd been additive free for a couple of months and thought it wouldn't hurt if I just had some thinking not that much would get through my milk, I had the chips 3 days in a row with lunch at work and regretted it on day 4, he was feral! lol so it definitely gets through haha. I hope you can get it worked out soon too :goodluck:

Beatrix I'm with you! Georgia seems good at night she still wakes every 2 hours to feed but just eats then settles straight away. Through the day though no such luck :wall: Like you this is why I am not sure food is it with her either. DS was unsettled day and night it was consistent, Georgia isn't. I think it might be just her. But time will tell I guess. We do seem to be having some luck with the pram though if you do manage to put her down she will sleep longer in there than in her bed and if she stirs you can sometimes get her off again by jiggling the pram. So small win I guess.
We also have a great chiro he fixed our BF issues with DS so I really should get Georgia started too I feel bad not having her adjusted after birth anyway and I could do with a treatment or 5 myself :p I love chiro!

It's quiet around here. All ok?

I was thinking the same DB. All ok here just been a VERY unsettled sleepless 36 hours, hoping it's over now :crossfingers: :crossfingers: Hoping she'll go down soon and I will follow!

Oh bugger happymum sorry just realised I called you DB in my last post, duh that's lack of sleep I have corrected it :)

shocker of a night last night, so bad I kept the kids home from school as I had no energy to get dressed to take them and they were kept awake half the night too. Didn't want their teachers to deal with feral tired children either.

So not sure if chiro had effect. Second app is sat, was told it could take 3-4.

But I am headed to dr tomorrow to discuss possibly of silent reflux because when she cries she is rigid, arching back and spits up curtled milk, orefera to be upright plus the rumble belly apparently can be a sign. And well when I had reflux I didn't have it all the time so maybe she doesn't either.

It just hard. I don't want to resort to meds but if she's in pain.

Things are even tougher too due to the emotional strain in the house. DH been spending a lot of time with his mum and sis when he's not at work which is understandable but very hard on me with the 4 kids and he is away for two nights this weekend on his annual boys weekend which has been planned for months and happens this time every year

That's a good point Beatrix about the reflux I assumed it would be all the time but maybe not I didn't have it all the time either :dunno: Georgia is also rigid and arches her back sometimes but I think they just do when they're so worked up and upset too argh it's so hard to work out. I don't like the idea o meds either but like you siad if she's in pain you want her to eel better. You also need some respite for yourself, sleep is very important especially when you're trying to look after the other kids and deal with everything you've had happen too :hug: Let us know how you got at the doctor. If it is reflux and you need the meds work with your chiro too, they can help with reflux and you can sometimes cut down meds or wean off completely :goodluck:

After our shocker yesterday and the night before we had a much better night last night and today has been better so far too. I think I even got 3 hours sleep in a row last night! Then another two after and funny but I felt even worse, more tired than usual this morning :o Oh well I guess my body just wanted more.

Willow- Dr was fun NOT!! he made me feel like a idiot, saying it maybe was all me and have I tried calling the parent helpline as I don't seem to be coping. Went through the whole well prop up the cot, try burping her more blah blah and said well they only do meds as last resort. I looked at him and said I have tried everything YOU are my last resort and was almost in tears. Never before have a felt like a dr was looking down on me so much. He did reluctantly end up giving me a script for losec as her symptoms do sound like silent reflux but yeah after the shaming I had to go through to get it, I came away feeling like a failure.
I def am still going to keep up the chiro because I dont want her to be on meds all the time but I am at serious breaking point.

We did have a better night last night though she went down at 7 ish woke 12,4 and 6 and today has been the usual carry on LOL hoping we have good nights as DH is away tonight and tomorrow night.

What a p**** of a doctor!! :o Sorry you had to go through that :hug: Does the Losec work right away from the first dose?

It can take up to 7 days for full affect...

but should see daily improvement.

lol shes been sleeping since i collected it so hasnt had first dose.

I hope it works, Beatrix. I'm exhausted just reading your posts on lack of sleep. Makes me feel guilty for whinging about being tired.

Does anyone have any advice about newborn pimples on the face? BD1 had it and sorbolene cream several times a day fixed it virtually overnight. Logan's isn't improving with Sorbolene. It's only been 24hrs but it still looks really bad and is rough and dry. I'll keep persevering. Does anyone have any advice?

DB I put Apricot oil in Georgia's bath and that helps clear them and keep her skin from drying out. You can get it in most health food shops about $9 a bottle and you only need a little each bath. It's not smelly and it doesn't leave them greasy either just beautiful and soft :) Has lots of other uses too.

Beatrix I hope you had a better night. Ours was crap again and today's not much better. I think the good nights/days for us are the exception to the norm. They were with DS3 too. I am just so tired I wish I was one of those people that cope with 2 hours broken sleep a night better but I'm a cranky b**** :( Right now she is feeding and still fighting, she drifts off for 30 seconds ten BAM! Eyes fly open again *sigh* She has had two sleeps today one 20 minutes and the other maybe 10 I wouldn't mind so much if we got a 3 or 4 hour stretch at night but that doesn't happen either. I feel like I'm always complaining sorry I'll try to be more positive with my next post. I do love her heaps!!!!!! I'm just tired :asleep:

Willow - Are you saying 30mins total during the day? If so, I am exhausted for you.

With Logan, he's a pretty good sleeper. He's 5.5 weeks now so maybe a growth spurt because he's feeding every two hours exactly and he's fussing around a bit. Also, I'm pretty sure he's not draining either side. I've tried expressing but I loathe my Avent manual pump. I haven't had a chance to buy the Medela Swing but I have high hopes when I do. I'm back at work in July.

Well we had a ok night. She feed at 8 went to sleep at 9:30, woke at 12, woke at 4:30 then woke up and ready for her day at 6 all happy. She settled well during the night as well.

Today's been pretty good too. She has let me put her down at times and had 3 he sleep plus two other 1-2hr sleeps.

Had second chiro app this morning so will see how tonight goes.

Willow- Hun maybe Georgia has reflux too? It's really not meant to be as hard as it seems for you.


DB- wow work! That's got to suck

Beatrix - That must have been bliss for you today. Did you get some rest? I'm glad she had a good one. Hopefully she is sleeping for you right now.

Willow - Thanks for the advice about the apricot oil. I've never heard of it but I'm definitely going to try it. My poor little boy. His face is covered in hormone pimples. I've been googling and it seems quite common. I'm tired of people commenting about them.

So yesterday we had one crying arching for which lasted about 5-10min!

Last night was a bit unsettled. But she did start the night in her bed so I got 2hrs on my own! Lol bonus. Then she woke every 2hrs but had one boob an went back to sleep. She wasn't quite in the deep sleep though, very restless for her.

But still improvements. I'm wondering if just her adjusting to be adjusted and its getting better?

Could be Beatrix I hope it keeps up for you :D

We had an hour and a half of screaming then she slept or 3 hours woke fed back to sleep again so I went to bed too then it was around midnight. She woke once, not sure what time I didn't check, but she fed went back down straight after and slept until 7am. Two wakings between 12am and 7 am is huge for us!! I'm not getting my hopes up that it will last but it would be so nice if it did. We haven't really had the screaming for a few days just unsettled whingy and fighting sleep. So I really don't know what's going on. We have he 6 week check tomorrow so we'll see how that goes.

This may have been the reason for lasts night unsettledness

Willow- thats a great sleep, fingers crossed for you!

Zoe is 8 weeks old today!!