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Wow TT, holding head up at a week? I didn't even know that was possible!
Our little guy has really only just started doing that this week at 12 weeks. He is strong in the legs, but not so much in the upper body.
Mildez, your bub is also a bit younger... End of Dec? I'm sure you're just enjoying him and not worrying about milestones :)
Getting pressure to try formula :( . Bub won't lay down to sleep and on the odd occasion he does doesn't sleep more then 20mins, is windy, passes offensive smelling gas, gets congestion from time to time, grunts like he needs to poo when laid down and people seem to think all his 'problems' will be solved by trying formula.
Might also add bub is only pooing once a week. I'm at a loss.
Once a week is normal for a BF bub Rosey. I hope you and your DS get some relief soon from the discomfort he might have. How is he sleeping overnight? Is he born a day or two before my bub? My DS was born on the 30th.
I don't have much to report. Currently as poor as a church mouse. Centrelink conveniently misplaced my birth forms so I have no proof of DS birth. I rang birth deaths and marriages and they said to expect anther 6-8 week wait for the birth certificate. So I don't get any PPL I was expecting or FTB. I'm so angry about it. On top of my dental expenses it really sucks. I swear these things seem to only happen to me.
DS is having a grumpy week. He was weighed last week and is now 2.5kgs heavier then his birth weight.
That's really rough Rosie. Who is pressuring you? Family & friends or health carers? If there are no problems with his gains, no need to consider it. And even if there are, there are other options first. How often does he feed? If there is no question on your supply, he could be getting mostly foremilk. Maybe call the ABA for advice. Breastmilk is a "perfect food" so it is mostly digested and as Mildez said once a week is normal. Have you tried eliminating potential triggers, dairy, caffeine, certain veggies etc? Gluten can also cause constipation if there is a sensitivity. There are also drops you can give bub to help with colic. Mildez might know.
Mildez, I'm sorry that you are having financial struggles. That is really irresponsible of centrelink, no wonder you feel angry! Can the hospital help you with proof of birth? I didn't know there were any payments available. We have found having a baby to be much more expensive than we anticipated.
I am just now two days without dairy and caffeine. To see if it helps the poor lad. I can't believe how smelly his wind and poop is though. Def not sweet smelling at all. My mother and Nan have started the formula hints, but last night after an exhausting couple of days and bub not sleeping of a night hubby and I had a huge blow up. He suggesting I'm not doing anything to try and help DS and that I should consider trying formula. It's so frustrating. I fed my DD until she was almost two and that was something my DH use to be proud of but now.... Well. What I need is support to work out what the problem is :( . Mildez yeah close to your DS, he isn't sleeping great. Only really sleeps when held during the day. Of a night he was previously laying down for some stints but he isn't happy to anymore. Is once a week ok for this age though?
Yikes about loosing your birth forms. That is so bad. How do you go about that now? Financial stress on top of newborn responsibilities is hard hard hard! I hope they can sort it for you asap. You poor thing. Thanks turtledove - he feeds frequently and I don't feel my supply is low. I'm leaning towards an intolerance. I will call the ABA for sure. We don't get anything payment wise either. With my DD we did as I was working up until she was born but have been a stay at home Mum ever since so no paid parental leave this time round.
I am expecting to get paid parental leave which if you have been working for so many months before your baby is born you may be entitled to. Its for 18weeks. And then family tax benefit which I get the minimum but it still helps with a bit of extra food or petrol. I was so prepared financially and had many thousands put aside but my dental bill which was unexpected was over 3K plus I happened to hit someone elses car a week before DS was born. It was the same as my excess so I just paid for it myself. All these unexpected costs has drained me and I guess that's why I am unhappy about it as I did feel I was really prepared to have up to a year from work. My older kids are at private schooling plus I have an ongoing orthodontic expense for my eldest so lots of direct debits.
Centrelink tried to tell me I didn't go in but as I have a medicare card with DS on it then that apparently proves they have it. Which I'd been telling them for weeks. Apparently it was not scanned onto my file and they have discarded the yellow hospital form and it can't be replaced. The hospital wont do duplicate copies. So they have apologised and said there is nothing that can be done without DS birth certificate. Which we didn't put in until he was 6weeks old.
Rosey a week is fine for 8-9weeks old. The longer they don't go the smellier gas seems to be. Is he very windy? A fully BF baby not on solids you would expect a very soft stool. Its not hard at all is it? Is his weight gain still good? Only you can decide the best option for you and your DS with feeding. In Australia really at the end of the day fed is best weather is breast or formula. We are luck to have access to safe water and formula if that turns out to be the better option for what ever reason. Its hard to say if formula is the answer with the stuff you have said. There is a good chance it wont make any difference or even make his discomfort worse but if your getting to the end of your teather then it can't hurt to try.
My DS is a bit more settled now and doesn't seem to have the reflux symptoms as bad as he did 2weeks ago. He mostly gets comfort from feeding so that's good.
Wow Rosie, feeding your DD until nearly 2 is certainly an achievement! I'm sure you will get there with your DS after you've worked through the hurdles. You mentioned that your DD didn't sleep either. Was she similar to your DS? You are doing well working through eliminations. The book "mother food" has a great chapter on foods that can cause colic etc.
Definitely call the ABA if for nothing else more than encouragement. Have you considered working with a lactation consultant? I found it invaluable, not just to assess position etc, but for reading babies cues and understanding his behaviour etc. In our experience we tried 5 different formulas, including a homemade one, before we found one that seems to agree with him. His poo still isn't mustard yellow, but he doesn't seem to be as agitated by it. And he'll actually drink it. So formula certainly isn't a quick fix. How do you feel about chiropractic care for babies?
Hang in there, I know you can do it!
Mildez, that is really rough. Centrelink admits they lost the paperwork and apologises, but can't pay you what you are entitled to? Can you speak with someone higher up about it? I don't think we are entitled to anything. I'll find out about FTB at tax time, but we are needing to cut back on expenses too. Is there something you can do from home to help supplement until you're ready to go back to work?
TD I think I just have to hang in there. For the last 2 years my income has been almost double that of my DH so to no longer have that for now was always going to be hard. Most of the other things I could do is considered a conflict of interest with my permanent job and actually breeches the code of conduct so its not much of an option.
Rosey have you tried the formula and if so did you see a difference? I guess one or two bottles is too much to expect much of a change.
Turtledove - yes my DS is very similar to my DD but he is easier to get to sleep. I should read that book. I'm five days clean, lol, of caffeine and dairy. I have noticed an improvement - hardly any grunting and not many unsettled periods. Also having a few 20min naps the last couple of days! Could I be onto something or coincidence... Time will tell. Chiro for babies I would try as it has done wonders for me but hubby isn't comfortable with it. How are things going with you? How's your babe going?
Mildez hope they sort it super fast for you. How's your little man? And your big children? Didn't try the formula no.
Ps. Have been reading the old pregnancy thread of a night when I'm awake. Ah I miss having a baby in my belly.
Hi ladies, I have been so busy on a FB group that I totally forgot about BB! So good to see all your bubs are doing well. I haven't had a chance to read all the posts ywt and just popping in to say hi atm but will update in more detail later xx
Rosey - yay for being more settled. Did it continue? How is your new diet going?
Phebee- welcome back! I aren't on fb, so this is my only outlet :)
Mildez - how is your little man? Any joy with centrelink?
Afm - three months old. 14 weeks today. Why do they have to grow so quickly? His body clock is all over the place. His only decent sleep during the day yesterday was 5:15-8:30pm. Then awake until midnight. He has just put himself to sleep on the playmat, I let him grizzle as I was pumping. Not cry, just a tired grizzle for 2 mins. Feeding is still all over the place. He fights the bottle most of the time, feels like it goes on all day :( he is so gorgeous tho, I love how his face lights up when he sees me :)
TD I have just received confirmation my paid parental leave has been approved. Apparently they were looking for my lost forms under another name not using my customer reference number. Thank God its sorted and hopefully I can now afford to stay at home for the amount of time we planned. Your DS must be exactly 4 weeks older then mine as my bub is 10weeks today.
Rosey I loved having a baby belly although I didn't have a nice belly bump this time. Small baby and extra weight I just looked like a beach whale. Never again for me. DH just put his consent in for a vasectomy yesterday. We are done. Its a bit sad but its for all the right reasons plus we have 4 kids. These days that's not a small family.
TD- I would love it if little man had an hours sleep even once a day. He is a 20min cat napper. I am thankful for even that though. We have been using the Amby Baby Hammock - we pop him in and gently swing it till he's asleep. While it's not self settling it is freeing my hands some what. I notice that I can't often get DS asleep until 11pm - then he will do his longest night time sleep which is 3 hours, then feed resettle and sleep for either an hour or two, then he come into bed with me. I find these early weeks a guessing game regarding sleep and I don't even try with a routine till much later. I'm sure others may find routine works for them - I can't make it stick this early though. That's great he self settled. I'm sorry that feeding is still all over the place? That must be hard for you. Are you still trying him on the boob aswell? How have you been feeling?
Mildez that's gear that they have approved hour leave! What a relief. Totally can't believe ten weeks has passed already. Waaahhh! We will have one year olds before we all know it!
I know... Three months is quarter of the way there, it's going far too quickly!
Mildez - yay for approving your PPL! That's wonderful :)
Rosey - the hammock sounds like a good transition. DS used to self settle in his electric swing, but not anymore. Yay for longer stretches overnight, at least he has his days and nights around the right way
Still bfeeding as much as we can, using the SNS. It can be fiddly but have had some positive experiences lately. He often will take that and not the bottle. Learning to read his hungry cues all over again now that he is awake more than asleep!
I'm missing my baby bump too! My uterus is begging to be stretched and kicked, I often sleep on my tummy so I can feel the pressure there.
Back on the topic of immunisations, has anyone seen the movie "Bought" ? You can view it free online until the end of the weekend. I can't post the link, but if you goggle it it should come up. It's about how the pharmaceutical companies are controlling things, background info on immunisations, etc. Very worthwhile if you get the time, I really recommend it.
My little boy rolled over for the first time last night. He is only three months! He was on his playmat on his back, and almost got all the way over but couldn't work out what to do with his lower arm. Daddy then put him on his tummy and he rolled all the way from tummy to back.
It's exciting and I can't help but be a little bit proud of him, but didn't expect it to happen so soon! He's growing too quickly!
Yay!! Go lil dude!!!
Spock rolled at 12 weeks. Quark has looked like she might get half way once, and she is now 14 1/2 weeks.
Your little dude is awesome
Awesome on the rolling. We are currently in Paeds. DS had a febrile convulsion this morning. His been sick of days :(
Oh Mildez, hope he is ok!
Turtledove - how cool is that! Be super proud.
Mildez - that is very worrying? Are you in for the night? Does DS have an infection? Poor little mate. Will be thinking of you.
Thanks ladies :) he has done it a few more times, but still seems quite shocked afterwards!
Mildez, that's scary! What happened? Hopefully they find an answer quickly and don't keep you in too long. Poor little guy.
Can we talk poop please? He he
DS who is EBF has been having watery poo most days for past week or so, it absorbs into his nappy but certainly doesn't fill it. No blood or mucous. He also does a thicker consistency poo roughly once a week. What's your bub doing?
Can't help sorry, my bub is mostly formula fed :(
But just for the sake of conversation, DS does one or two each day. Usually quite thick. Dark brown colour, sometimes greenish.
The rolling continues! Today it was back to tummy. He couldn't work out how to get back again. It's sooo cute!
Anyone heard from Mildez?
This is my hundredth post :)
Hello ladies, not much happening here. I haven't been getting email updates for any threads, is that happening for anyone else?
How is everyone's bubs doing? How is the feeding sleeping wind reflux & crying going?
Mildez, what happened with your Bub?
DH's cousin dropped me her copy of "Save our Sleep" today. I'll have a look, but I don't know if it will work for us. Since DS takes a bottle, I don't mind putting him on a schedule, but I find it laughable how she has strict schedules for breastfeeding newborns. Cousin says it worked for her, but I can't help but wonder if that is why her DD self weaned at 7 months (and Cousin pushed it out to 9 months). I like the idea of a routine, and putting him down awake to sleep, but I guess I keep hoping DS will find his own rhythm. And putting him down awake only leads to crying, and I can't do cry it out!
Hey turtledove,
Reflux has mostly disappeared here but I am fairly certain DS reacts badly to dairy and definitely to caffeine. He's already showing signs of teething the poor darling and has nipped me a few times. Still cat napping (20mins) and longest night stretch is 3hours usually but honestly it's not bothering me this time around. He is such a delightful baby, he absolutely melts me. He rarely cries, tons of smiles, giggling the last few days and totally lights up when he looks at his Mumma. As I do him.
I have heard about SOS but I've never read it. I found reading or googling with my DD really stressed me, as i would try something and it wouldn't work making me feel like I had failed. I'm just going with our flow this time.
How are you and your DS going turtledove? Still rolling around?
Rosie, glad the reflux is better, and hope you've adjusted to the new diet. Sounds like the pressure to give formula has passed, and you'll be bfeeding until he is two :) the smiles at this age are gorgeous, aren't they? :) have the runny poos settled down?
Thanks for that encouragement. There is some good tips in the book, like dressing baby warmly enough at night and communicating with baby, but as for the rest, I think I'll leave it. Makes me feel like a bad mum for not having a strict schedule. It just doesn't work for DS. He won't feed unless he is hungry, and if he's hungry he won't wait. Self settling leads to screaming. I really want him to find his own routine, which is slowly getting clearer. He won't sleep longer than 30 mins if we are out or have visitors. So I just can't see it working for us. Good to know I aren't going to ruin his sleep patterns forever :)
Yes, still rolling. Mainly back to tummy, he knows what he is doing, and looks very focussed while rolling. He seems to have forgotten how to get back again tho, and gets frustrated. Maybe because Daddy keeps flipping him over.
Anyone else find themselves thinking "this time last year..." ?
It's been 12 months since we got our BFP. It's hard to remember life before that time! :)
Haha yes. I can't remember the exact date but could figure it out easy enough. I know it was April. I found out at 10DPO only reason I tested was because I was going to be exposed to many Xrays with my mums stallion who was having all legs xrayed and I was holding him. So thought although unlikely I would need to know there was no chance I was pregnant. It was the faintest BFP so I went and got a different brand of pregnancy test to confirm. The first person I told I was pregnant was the vet pmsl. He asked how far pregnant I was so I lied and said I was 8weeks. I could hardy admit I'd known for an hour and was only 3.5weeks along. I didn't tell my husband for another 2 days.
I found out good Friday last year. The 18th of April. Life changing.
What about you turtledove how did you find out?
Yes TD how did you find out?
TT40 did you test before your official blood test?
Might be weird I didn't tell my husband as soon as I found out but after loosing 5 pregnancies he had said before he didn't want to know until I was in a safer period. Obviously that didn't happen but I knew as soon as he knew he would want to see the pregnancy test and it was so incredibly faint you had to close an eye, tip it upside down and squint to see a barely visable 2nd line. I was trying to get to my first BHCG test before telling him but couldn't wait past 2 days still making me a few days before my period was due. I ended up having my first BHCG a week after I found out and it was 258 so it must have only been like 10-15 when it first showed positive. Can't believe I will never do this again.
I don't think that's weird at all. I'm sorry you lost five pregnancies before getting your DS that's really awful. Oooo but I feel the same too Mildez. It's incredibly sad to know that's it. There is no need to track or analyze a cycle. POAS. Get morning sickness. Feel flutters. Get a belly. Have pelvic pain. Plan a birth. Pick a name. Anticipate birth. I'm really bloody sad about it.
Last week DH and I DTD unprotected. Then a few days later I had spotting. Totally freaked out as I was thinking implantation. All tests are negative and I would know by now if I was. Anyways at the time when I thought it was possible I felt extremely worried about how I would share myself over my possibly three children, it made me guilty just thinking about it and I was wishing for a negative result. So I said to my hubby that he should have the snip. Then he was warming to the idea and saying he wouldn't mind another. Now he's saying no cant do it financially and I'm thinking yes again. Honestly I'm confused. Is it just the 'danger zone' I'm feeling? You know the first few months after having your bub where you want another - your missing your belly and you've got all those lovely hormones. Though even when he isn't sleeping and I'm exhausted, I want another. I don't want to be old one day and regret not having another baby but I also don't want to put added strain or stress on my family. After all were very lucky to have our two healthy children and I can stay home with them, that should complete me.
Just re-read above. Yes Rosey we were in for the night and 2 days with DS. He had bronchitis and possibly febrile convulsion. There have been concerns with DS since he was born doing as he does this odd thing with his limbs. Not sure if anyone remembers me saying there were developmental concerns. The paeds said that febrile convulsions can't really be diagnosed until 6months and his very very young for this to be the cause. Especially coupled with the abnormal leg/arm movements his always done. There are concerns there is possibly something else going on like a type of epilepsy. But all brain tests have been normal and so far his meeting all his milestones so that's reassuring. Other then this tremor he does mainly in his legs but in his arms too his completely normal.
DH and I DTD unprotected too only yesterday. I am confident there wont be any surprises. I'm so dried up down there and absolutely no sign of my cycle returning. With my last 2 it took about 6-7months for my cycle to return and DS still feedings every 1-3hrs including overnight. With my poor fertility and multiple losses I am confident there will be no baby coming in 9months. DH vasectomy is happening in July I think.
Yes I get what you mean with the wanting another bub/not wanting another. Sense have prevailed with is. We have 4 and in this day and age 4 is a lot. Financially we can not afford to have another. Its not the baby part that's hard its the schooling, helping out with uni, potentially needing to buy the kids cars (we live a long distance from town), potentially all of them needing orthodontic work etc. Or food bill is enormous. We don't have health care cards and in one week at one stage the 5 of us needed ab's. It was hundreds. Just all those expenses add up. We already do it pretty cheap with clothing and skipping corners with other stuff like hair cuts and holidays. I couldn't do another pregnancy with ease. I feel old now. I feel hagged and I need to start putting some effort into myself. But on the other hand I would love 1 more son. I guess with 3 girls it would be nice to even up the number. I'd like DS to have a brother. But I would never ever have a baby just to get a particular gender. Already I hate the comments we get with DS been the next family name saviour. DH got that. It will take too long to explain. If we had 2 DS's then I don't think it would be such an issue. But we are done. And I am so grateful I got what I wanted eventually. I wanted 4 healthy kids and that's what we have. That's a good feeling.
Mildez, I'm sorry that there have been concerns with your bubs development and movements. I hope it isn't too serious! What did you decide on circumcision?
How we found out -- We were ttc, charting, etc and my temps were looking a bit unusual. I didn't think we were sucessful as I started getting AF synptoms. AF didn't come, so I told hubby we had to get a test, I wanted to know one way or the other. It came up positive straight away, hubby saw it before I did. It took a whole to sink in! (It still is, haha!)
How did you find out Rosie?
We will most likely have another, the question is just when. DH & I always wanted a big family, especially DH who wanted them all close together. Realising now the responsibility & financial burden, we shall see. What I wonder is will I ever sleep again, and how will I cope with a baby & toddler. DS is a good sleeper, but I've always needed lots of sleep so I've found it hard. How long does it take to adjust to less sleep?