Babies Born ~ June 2012 #1

[sunshine 11]

Hi lovelies -thanks for all your kind words - we are still in hospital and even though we dropped down oxygen levels this morning (which is good as it means we were closer to being off it and off home) she has struggled this afternoon. DH is home with both kids, house is apparently a mess with my DD wetting the bed I sleep in which no doubt won't be washed. Amazing how when I look after both kids all the cleaning washing and cooking gets done, yet when he does, nothing happens!
Hotaru - I have vasospasm on one side and they make no difference to that side. They are only cold of you put them in the fridge (which I don't) otherwise they are room temp and warm to your body temp in seconds. Can't recommend them enough.
Not much else to report, moved to a really dark room right near the electric doors so am very unhappy as it's both dark and noisy. Glad my little one is OK though and makes me appreciate my kids being healthy as I have seen some very sick babies in here. Hopefully home by the weekend and I can start posting again
xxx

[CruisingTurkey]

Hello all the lovely ladies here!

Been MIA as i dont seem to have time for anything. Been home form hospital for 3 days and all the good feeding and sleeping we did there has gone out the window. well, he still feeds fine and he generally is good and not really a screamer, but we had a shocker last night (more on that later)

Can someone tell me what vasospasm is?? Sorry if it was covered ealrier, but there is just no way I can catch up on a whole months posts.

Sunshine - so sorry your little one is not well. You must have been beside yourself with worry. Fingers crossed you go home soon and she is back to normal.

I cant see back passed a couple of posts unfortunately and I am about 5 minutes from bed (yes, at 7pm!) so I will just say that I hope everyone is doing well. You all seem to have this first month-6 weeks thing all tied up. Yay! Maybe you can all give me some advice for J. I am only a week into this parenting stuff and could use some comforting words and encouragement.

I was doing really well and feeling so confident since J got here but last night was awful. I was in tears for fear something really bad was wrong with J. He had a marathon feed (longest so far) and then projectile vomitted all over the place. All over me, the bed, and himself. There was so much. PLus, all afternoon it sounded like there were cats fighting in his stomach and watery poo and a funny yellow/green colour even though there was not much to speak of. I called the hospital and they told me to watch him after the next feed or so and bring him up if he got a temperature or did it again.
THen he kept waking during the night more than usual and more grissly and feeding more. I was a bit scared to let him feed too long in case he vomitted again. Today he has been all out of sorts and wanteing to feed more often and not wanting to sleep (if my mum says to me one more time 'give him the dummy' I am going to scream!!) and only sleeps on me or DH. I am so tired I just want to sleep but he is being so unsettled.

I know this is totally a me me me post but I really dont know what to do. Will it pass? Should I be worried that he will never want to sleep in his bed again and is he feeding too much? Last night I got to the point where I didnt even know what side i was up to. I am so tired and I just want to know he will be ok and that he will go back to his usual 4 hour sleep, feed, 3-4 hour sleep, feed.

btw....did someone say something about getting started on no.3 already ??? dear sweet jesus ! i am beside myself with one little guy and getting my head around it all.

oh yeah, and I told my mum that some people (DH's family and friends in Turkey) call him Baran and I call him Jesse and DH calls him both and she said with a uppity look on her face 'he's going to get very confused'. give me a break. He is going to be bi-lingual. I reckon he can figure out who calls him what and why. Geez, has she never called anyone by a nickname before or even a cute pet name when they are little.

Sorry. tired. grumpy. crabby. i need sleep.

CT

[little_O]

First of all CT

I have had many teary nights, it does honestly get better!
My nephew was a projectile baby, and they just eventually grow out of it. Could you try slightly elevating the head of his mattress? Does he burp well after feeding? If he stays upright does he still vomit?

Might be worth getting the doctor to check but apparently some babies have a sensitive lining to a section of their stomach and that's why it reacts.

Have you been sleeping during the day when he sleeps?

Just need to change sides bfing... Be back soon x

[Mumma T]

Hugs CT. I am of absolutely no value for information. But just wanted you to know I am here and listening

[CruisingTurkey]

First of all CT

I have had many teary nights, it does honestly get better!
My nephew was a projectile baby, and they just eventually grow out of it. Could you try slightly elevating the head of his mattress? Does he burp well after feeding? If he stays upright does he still vomit?

Might be worth getting the doctor to check but apparently some babies have a sensitive lining to a section of their stomach and that's why it reacts.

Have you been sleeping during the day when he sleeps?

Just need to change sides bfing... Be back soon x

Hi Little_O

He was completely upright when it all came out. We had just come off the breast for a burping break and it all came out. He does the usual posset vom but this was a whole other thing.

I meant to elevate his mattress but we forgot. He was honestly fin until last night. He is so fussy today and wont sleep easily. It takes a few goes to get him to go down and then he wakes up after 2 hours. I thnk he is getting bad stomach cramps???? but I have no idea.

Community Nurse/midwife is coming at 9:30am tomorrow morning. I will be asking her for a miracle answer I think.

I try to sleep in the afternoons but not today as he didnt really go down. Was mostly walking and rocking him trying to get him to sleep. As soon as I put him in his bed he wakes up again. It has only been today he is like that. I really hope this is not the new norm....

Thanks Bubba. You are always so good at the support no matter what the issue or whats going on with you. It is very much appreciated.

Well I may eb on here at some ungodly hour looking for some sanity or answers.

Thanks ladies
CT

[LuluHB]

CT - the tummy noises, explosive runny poos and vomiting are all part of the joys of newborn life. You may have eaten something that is upsetting his tummy - I've had three occasions now when I can trace back excessive pooing, unsettled etc to something I've eaten. Its all a bit trial and error unfortunately. Lexie has been very chucky over the last few days and big wind pains are only just starting to ease after a few weeks of being nasty for her. Otherwise it could just be normal newborn stuff. The early weeks/months are bloody hard work and a very steep learning curve for mums - whether its your first baby or your fifth. I practically begged the hospital to let me come back with DD1 I was so distressed. Hang in there. Its very early days for you but I promise you it will get so much easier and in no time you'll have it all under control. Sleep when Jesse sleeps, take help when its offered because sleep deprivation makes everything seem so much tougher

[milly5]

Hi ladies,

Just a quick post here….

Trying to catch up on some of the posts over the last week, these are the things that came to mind…

Dory – I am impressed that you had a long car journey with HB and kept her dry. Although DD1 is also toilet training (we have also been ec’ing for a while) I am still not brave enough to take her in the car without a nappy yet (every journey is at least an hour for us though).

Someone mentioned (a few days ago) about the nurse saying no co-sleeping. I found the same thing with DD1 – when I mentioned that she sometimes slept with us, the nurse gave me the biggest lecture, I tried to show her some of the info I had received on the benefits of co-sleeping (if you are interested – Pinky Mackay, Sarah Buckley), but she wouldn’t have it. She also lectured me about baby wearing too. When we began baby led solids, and then elimination communication, she thought I was a bit of a nutter, doing EVERYTHING “wrong”. (shakes head). Well, I am still doing it “wrong” (yep, co-sleeping, mostly on the lounge – well supported - as I can feed better slightly upright, and it’s warmer in front of the fire) and this time I didn’t bother with getting the nurse to come out either (I chose to drive an hour to the next town, that’s how much I thought of our local child health nurse.

Blood loss – yep, I am still bleeding a bit too. With DD1 I didn’t seem to bleed that much, but this time round, at least double. Having said that, I know it is nothing sinister, just me doing a lot (read too much), and a bit more to get over.

Night sweats – yep, can last for some women as long as night BF does. But for most women, it is part of still losing your fluid from when you were pregnant, usually stops after a few weeks (so I am told, but I am still “sweating strong”!).

Sunshine – hugs for you and your DD!!!! hope she is well soon!

CT – hugs. Sounds like he has wind? Greenish poo can mean (in BF babies) an imbalance with the foremilk/hindmilk. The foremilk is what gives them the gas/wind/runs and greenish tinge. When your milk supply settles it usually settles. Google something like green newborn baby poo foremilk and you should find some info. My DD2 had it, as my supply came in quick and fast and I was very engorged for a few days. Also, everything that Little O said would be my other suggestions.

[little_O]

CT: what Milly said about the foremilk/hindmilk was what i was going to suggest as well.
This is what I was thinking of with the the stomach lining http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001965/
Also, did you end up having a c-section? Sorry cant remember this time of night...did they give you any antibiotics?
Some antibiotics can cause the pyloric stenosis.

Hopefully the nurse tomorrow can help and I hope he settles tonight for you. The not sleeping makes it the hardest. I'll check in on you when I am up feeding

[LuluHB]

Just wanted to say re fore/hind milk that the thinking has apparently changed on the level of importance attributed to this (cos we mummies haven't got enough to deal with without the supposed experts changing what's "right" on us every two minutes!!!). Miss A was having huge attachment problems and so the 3 LCs that I saw all told me that in the first couple of weeks I should switch her from breast to breast literally after two minutes (she wasn't attaching and gave up after the initial let down eased off). I commented at the time but she'll never drain a breast, get the hind water etc and was told that they no longer think that's a big deal at all, and that the only importance is for your own sake that the breast is sufficiently drained so that you don't get lumps forming, mastitis developing etc.

Definitely worth asking your CHN about when you see her tomorrow to get her opinion, but just putting it out there.

ETA: Just wanted to say that what Milly says is right - more foremilk will give green explosive poos, extra wind etc and while that's obviously not great and can be uncomfortable for bubs, its not going to stunt his growth or anything serious.

[embo]

Hi mummies!
Again - sorry for being completely MIA! I have been super busy - DH has been on 2 weeks leave and it seems we haven't stopped! Lucky DD is a pretty settled bub as we seemed to have dragged her here, there and everywhere over the last few weeks. I'm on my mob, have tried to get on laptop for persies a handful of times, but every time I go to do this it seems DD is onto me and boycotts my plan! The only other time I get is when I'm expressing, hence this quick catch up via mob.

Sunshine, so sorry to her your little one is unwell. Sending big hugs and get well wishes your way! Xx

CT - my DD had the hugest vomit today too. I freaked out! She has been vomiting more frequently, but it doesn't seem to bother her, but today at playgroup as I was putting her in her capsule she did about 5 big heaves in a row :-( went all over my friends Lounge and there was a huge pool in DD car seat. She's had a feed since and didn't vomit so hopefully it was just a random thing!!! Have my 4 week GP appt tomoro so will mention it to doc.

OMG - I'm soooo glad these 'sweats ' have been mentioned ... I wake most mornings drenched to the point we've had to change the bedding during the night! Had no idea this is a normal post baby joy!

Hello to everyone else - sorry I can't see any earlier posts right now... Will try really hard to keep in the loop and contribute more ladies.

Well i best try get a little shut eye before my little cherub wakes for her next feed. Keep up the amazing work mummas *sprinkles some sleep tight dust for all mums and bubs*. X

[little_O]

How is it going CT?
Just thinking re: dummy. First of all it's not recommended till 6 weeks of age for breastfeeding babies, so that your milk supply is sorted.
Also my MIL is obsessed with me giving dd a dummy. In the end I said to dh, look she barely cries and when she does she's hungry so has the boob. I've had mastitis 3 times, let my milk sort out and bottom line: she's our child, I get up for her, not his mum. It's not affecting her. If or when I decide to give her one that's up to us and it's our consequences!...not that I could say this to HER lol...

I am all for dummies...when and if she needs one!

[Mumma T]

Dummies are hard to get rid of once they have them too

[little_O]

Bubba does he want his all the time? They already start getting their own personalities hey!

[CruisingTurkey]

Morning Ladies!

Well last night wasnt the disaster it was promising to be. He was still a little unsettled and had more awake time than usual ('usual' being based on a week of him being around!!) but generally was back to normal. The big difference was instead of eating at 5am adn then going back to sleep til about 9am he decided to stay awake til about 7:30am and now is asleep. I am hoping it means we are moving towards more sleep between midnight and 5am ???? you never know your luck in abig city, and one can only dream!!

I have to confess that I was really concerned he wasnt getting any hind milk and thats why his nappy was so full of water rather than poo, as we both fall asleep during a feed and then I dont know how much milk he has had before he fell asleep. Bad mummy. Lost track of which boob was next a few times and a couple of times he would stop because of pain or whatever and then I would put him back on the same boob 10 minutes later. Is that bad? I guess I can ask the nurse today. I hope she is a nice nurse and not judgy.

BubbaT - I have not given him a dummy (although I did buy some as back up) as I am petrified he will become attached to it and then I will spend the next 2 years having to go into his room 50 times a night for the 'put the dummy back in' scenario. Shame you are not allowed to strap stuff to their faces while they sleep. ;-) Its all about sleep for me :-) mine...rather than his. Not against dummies at all just think it wouldnt work well for me during the nights. Will definitely have some ready for if I need them along the way though.

Little O - thanks for the 6 week tip on dummies. Now I can just reply with that. I told my mum that if he is taking the dummy instead of feeding then he wont be getting as much as he needs during a feed. The last thing I want to do is mess about with these boobs and not get my milk sorted. In saying that, they have settled right down and seem to be doing their job, but I have really lumpy breasts and have some scar tissue in one from an op years ago, plus cysts and a fibroadenoma in amongst the scar tissue, so I am really worried about keeping a good milk supply as well as not being aware of and missing any 'issues' that might arise for me. I am a local at the Breast Clinic. I should get frequent flyer points.

Embo - Hello !! 5 big ones !! OMG. That would have been so scary. How on earth can they have so much in their tiny tummies ?!?!? bet your friend was pleased about the lounge......

THE SWEATS !! oh my god ! thought it was just me. Thought I had a virus or flu coming on or something!! thank god it was brought up. It was a total relief to me when I read that. But very happy to be loosing the water retention without trying ;-)

LuluHB - Why do they have to keep changing the game plan on us !?!?! geez its hard to keep up. I will ask the CHN today about it. Defintely seems to match J's nappy scenario though and the wind. Although last night he seemed to be able to burp easily after a feed and not so much crying in pain.
Also, on the food affecting J. I have been eating sooooo many prunes lately Not for any other reason other than I love them. I didnt eat any yesterday and I didint take any ibuprofen either as I wasnt sure whether he was sensitive to it even though they say it is safe to use while BF.

Little_O - I did end up with a c-section and pretty sure they gave me antibiotics (i was in a bit of a state at the time so they could have injected me with toothpaste and I wouldnt have known).


Dory - I am super impressed you are out and about as well. Still working myself up to walk up to the shop which is a 7 minute walk from my mum's. In my defence, it was raining and windy the last couple of days......

Milly5- we are co-sleeping as well. Mostly just between 2am and 5am as it is just too cold to take him from the warmth of feeding so cosy and warm to a cold bed on his own. I do warm the bed with a heat pack for a minute or so during the day before I put him in his cot, but at night I couldnt be bothered adding something else to the to-do list when i can barely keep my eyes open. Anyway, the cot will be packed up next week ready for transporting to QLD so he will be sleeping in all sorts of places until we get settled up there. Sleeping with us will give him some security during the move and hopefully he will cope with all the changes a bit better.

oops...CHN is here...better run. BBL for update

[BlackRose]

Dummies are hard to get rid of once they have them too

Actually DS1 went cold turkey at 14 months and it was easy peasy.. I was prepared for a battle but he dropped the dummy easily

[ebn_d]

Argh tapatalk hasn't been allowing me to reply to any thread, and I haven't had time to jump on the comp for ages. And I've wanted to comment alot of times too. But silver lining, I finally changed my sig. But limited time as ds2 is about to wake up and we are heading to bed!

Only things I can remember to reply to are dummies, night sweats and bleeding lol
Dummy- ds1 had one, loved it, easy to cut it out, took it just after he was 2, he was biting them so we told him if he cubit that one it was his last so make it last, once it was stuffed we said no more dummy. Easy as. He still has one for his nap and overnight but we never shve to go in to give it to him, and he doesn't sook for one during the day.

Night sweats- yep me too. Not every night now but definately still get them.

Bleeding- I still am, but it is slowing, I didn't bleed this long after ds1, I'm actually in colored underwear and a normal pad, not maternity, for the first time today! Yay. So slightly more human.

Sorry can't see much else, but I have been reading and thinking of you all!

Afm- I was a happy mumma this morning, ds2 slept on his back in his bassinet and on his right side at different times last night, and he has never slept any other way than on his left. Hopefully this means his pain is lessening and we can start to work out this new life properly instead of just working around the pain!

[little_O]

Embo: good to hear dd is a settled bub, makes life a bit easier hey!
Ebn_d: so good to here your LO is hopefully on the improve. Poor little man.
CT: how did you go with the nurse?

AFM: dd gave us 5 hours sleep again last night, but after feeding her and putting her down again she was restless. Poor little thing was sniffly so dh and I tried to fish out the booger sorry tmi...then she played in his study while he worked. Now she is one tired little monkey who keeps falling asleep while feeding!!

Attempting to clean my house this morning... Let's hope she sleeps for a while!

[CruisingTurkey]

Evening ladies

Visit with the CHN was pretty good. I asked lots of questions and can remember none of the answers. I do feel much better about the vomming though as when I was telling her she didnt even blink an eye! Clearlyi am over reacting and she has seen it a hundred times before. It didnt offend me her lack of repsonce but rather made me feel like everything was going along normal.

I dis ask her about hind/fore milk and she saidnot to concern myslef with that as it is all about the 'let down' response and not time or drainage. Says let down can happen 5 or 6 times during a feed and so its not a matter of waiting to drain the fore milk to get to the hind milk. Whatever, as long as I am not cutting him off too early like I thought i was, I am happy. She said that the poobeing watery rather than more solid is normal for BF babies. The cat fight seems to have stopped in his stomach and his sleep pattern has changed today as well. Spent heaps of time awake and didnt sleep at all between a feed this evening.

Little_O - I am hanging out for a 5 hour sleep!! oh to sleep that long........DH was really p!ssing me off today. He doesnt even wake up duirng the night when I am feeding in the bed right next to him and then he has a lovely nap for acouple hours on the couch this morning!! AAARRGGHHHHHH. I have no idea why he is so tired.

Anyway, alls a bit quiet on BB today. Hope everyone is well. YOu are all probably having a lovely Saturday night doing something interesting while I am sitting on the couch posting on BB. I must work on getting a life ;-)

CT