Babies Born ~ November 1st -15th 2011 #1

[DANNIIM]

Amanda you must have the attachment spot on cos you'd be grazed or blistered by now I would think.
I think Abby has a small mouth or something is going on cos attachment is making my toes curl in pain but then it eases and is ok for the feed until towards the end when I think she changes the position of her tongue or something and is ouchy again. Strangely enough the nipple that isn't as damaged is more painful so I'm really not sure what the go is there. She also woke with a gunky eye this morning so I'm just putting drops of breastmilk in her eye and will monitor it over the next day.

[Lolpigs]

mil are weird mine is doing that too... its the first grandchild. She's doing the same thing going on about how Lilly is there's.. not. It is so frustrating

[Lolpigs]

Amanda you must have the attachment spot on cos you'd be grazed or blistered by now I would think.
I think Abby has a small mouth or something is going on cos attachment is making my toes curl in pain but then it eases and is ok for the feed until towards the end when I think
she changes the position of her tongue or something and is ouchy again. Strangely enough the nipple that isn't as damaged is more painful so I'm really not sure what the go is there. She also woke with a gunky eye this morning so I'm just putting drops of breastmilk in her eye and will monitor it over the next day.

Sounds like Lilly, watch how you hold her Lilly slips off and that happens to me to

[LoveKnowsNoBounds]

Danni - I had that exact pain like you describe and it turned out she wasn't attaching properly. Though she was also making a clicking sound that I thought was her drinking, turned out that it was her slipping off and on and not attaching correctly. I hope your breasts feel better soon

Amanda - Sorry your MIL is such a pain. Best thing would be not to let her get to you. Hard though I know. There are some people that just don't get it and she sounds like she falls into that category. That's great that your DH could see where you were coming from. Is she going to stay at your place when she visits you?

Lolpigs - it sounds like you are going great, there is going to be the odd bad day here and there but as long as your progressing in the right direction that's wonderful!

Jessica was very unsettled again last night. Didn't go back to sleep after her 8pm feed, then fed her at 11pm and wouldn't sleep until after 1am. It was exhausting as she cries, screams, then you think she's going to sleep then her eyes pop open and the whole thing starts all over again. She did quite a few number 2's yesterday but today so far nothing. Is that normal? Not sure what I can do about that? I wish I knew why she was so unsettled.

I hope everyone else is doing well

[Lolpigs]

Thanks sweetpea. Glad you are doing well too. Looks like I'm down to 1 bottle a day. Cluster feed 4:30pm till 9 and then she gets really frantic and hungry. Takes about 40 or 50ml and then relaxes and sleeps.

Yeah I think the reason we have issues at the end of the day is becuase Lilly dosen't feed well then. She makes that clicking noise and slips off the breast more especially when cluster feeding. Lilly dosent attach properly half the time becuase she wont open her mouth, gets frustrated.. gah its an annoying cycle. It is probably why the end of the day is when she needs the bottle because she still isnt great at sucking yet. Hopefully that will improve as she gets bigger.

Poor Jessica. I find Lilly really unsettled before No. 2's and she then screams afterwards becuase she hates the feeling in her nappy or something. Lilly does that too sometimes, does a few in one day and then nothing the next day. So long as she isn't constipated, from what I've read it's normal they don't like the feeling or sensations associated with the BM and interpret it as pain apparently.

I hope she is more settled for you tonight xx

Edit: Hmm even though Lilly took 40ml of formula tonight, I think she was giving us the wrong signals and it was for a BM? becuase she just did one and now she is all happy. However we get hungry signals from her when she is in pain.. does anyone else get that? is there a way to tell the difference.. gah. Perhaps she isn't actually hungry? so confusing.

[Lolpigs]

OK weird, just had too offer bottle because Bubs kept slipping and not drinking and screAming ... this is starting to get perplexing

and she still isn't settling oh dear.

[Mollie89]

Sweetpeajan - Sounds like you and I had similar nights with our munchkins. Aubree as unsettled most of the night. I wouldnt worry about her poo's though the clinic nurse told me that breastfed babies can go 5 days without doing a poo because there isnt much in the breast milk to pass through and most of it is absorbed into them.

Lolpigs YUP YUP YUP! When Aubree has a tummy ache from been a guts she looks for BM. Im still finding it hard to differ between Aubree's cries!

Well I had a shocker of a night last night.. Ended up in tears and just thinking that maybe I wasnt doing something right... Aubree was so unsettled wouldnt go to sleep after feeds and I for the life of me couldnt work out what was wrong.. Eventually she went to sleep at 4am! At least its not raining here today so if she has an unsettled day I can put her in the pram and take her for a walk.. I talked to some of my friends they said that babies can have unsettled days sometimes, even though that would explain why Aubree was unsettled it doesnt make me feel better, because when she cries I just want to be able to do something to make it better!!!

[Lolpigs]

Sweetpeajan - Sounds like you and I had similar nights with our munchkins. Aubree as unsettled most of the night. I wouldnt worry about her poo's though the clinic nurse told me that breastfed babies can go 5 days without doing a poo because there isnt much in the breast milk to pass through and most of it is absorbed into them.

Lolpigs YUP YUP YUP! When Aubree has a tummy ache from been a guts she looks for BM. Im still finding it hard to differ between Aubree's cries!

Well I had a shocker of a night last night.. Ended up in tears and just thinking that maybe I wasnt doing something right... Aubree was so unsettled wouldnt go to sleep after feeds and I for the life of me couldnt work out what was wrong.. Eventually she went to sleep at 4am! At least its not raining here today so if she has an unsettled day I can put her in the pram and take her for a walk.. I talked to some of my friends they said that babies can have unsettled days sometimes, even though that would explain why Aubree was unsettled it doesnt make me feel better, because when she cries I just want to be able to do something to make it better!!!

Oh Mollie poor thing, that was me last night too ;( We tried food thinking that is what was it, but even though she drank it she wasnt hungry as it didn't settle her, and it made her cry more. So not a lack of food issue. I am thinking gas and tummy ache now. Screaming until 6am :S I was so upset. I know how you feel hun, I was so frustrated.

I gave her some gripe water this morning as after her morning feed it started again, this helped her settle to sleep, she is in my sleep carrier atm at least my arms are free! She won't sleep lying down atm without crying after about 10mins. Her stomach is gurgling so much I can hear it when I hold her.
So, so much for thinking it is my supply, I think she is getting a stomach ache everytime she eats now, and possibly some reflux as i've heard liquid come up sometimes and then she screams afterwards like its burning. Glad we are seeing the Pead next week. Poor poppet

[Mollie89]

Oh Mollie poor thing, that was me last night too ;( We tried food thinking that is what was it, but even though she drank it she wasnt hungry as it didn't settle her, and it made her cry more. So not a lack of food issue. I am thinking gas and tummy ache now. Screaming until 6am :S I was so upset. I know how you feel hun, I was so frustrated.

I gave her some gripe water this morning as after her morning feed it started again, this helped her settle to sleep, she is in my sleep carrier atm at least my arms are free! She won't sleep lying down atm without crying after about 10mins. Her stomach is gurgling so much I can hear it when I hold her.
So, so much for thinking it is my supply, I think she is getting a stomach ache everytime she eats now, and possibly some reflux as i've heard liquid come up sometimes and then she screams afterwards like its burning. Glad we are seeing the Pead next week. Poor poppet

At the moment Aubree is settled, she brought up a lot of wind after her last feed. I have her on her bassinet sleeping on her side. After her next feed if she is unsettled Im going to put her in the pram and walk and walk and walk... and if that doesnt work Im going to try a nice bath. Its such a huge learning curve! Im so glad that my mum is around to help me out.... Although my MIL is certainly putting her 2 cents worth in over the phone... THANK GOD she lives 10 hours away, otherwise I would probably murder her! lol

[AMumma]

Mum got Levi asleep in 2 mins lol. Need to learn to master this art.

Deciding if I should go to sleep or clean some more.

We had a poo explosion while mum was changing Levi lol. He ended up pooing all up the curtains lol. Mum said she had never seen it before, she took the curtain home to clean lol.

[Mollie89]

i think its a Nana thing...

[Cranky Kitten]

In the great question of cleaning vs sleep, the answer is always sleep.

Alex has a little quirk where he doesn't like pooing in an already dirty or wet nappy. Waits until I've just changed him and settled back down again before doing his biggest ones. Means we're going through a lot of nappies, but does make me think I might wait a bit before trying mcns. Otherwise I might be buried under the mountain of washing. He makes enough with all his spitting up anyway.

[Lolpigs]

Amumma that is quite a feat up a curtain!

I'm off to have a nap now, but looks like bubs probably has reflux every feed she screams regardless of how much we burp her and has to sleep in her sleepy wrap upright. Poor dear. Gets no relief when she burps or farts either. Hopefully the Pead visit next week can sort something for her. Going to call them monday if it is still the same.

[AMumma]

Hugs Lolpigs.

Levi had a nap this morning, so I had one and again this afternoon so I did housework lol.

Feeling a little more awake during the day but still struggling with night time wake ups.

[Mollie89]

I seem to have my settled bubba back!

Also the ladies that have made albums on here, is there anything special i should be doing... I cant seem to get to the upload photos part :/

[Lolpigs]

Your lucky Mollie, I haven't been able to get Lilly to settle since 9:30pm, she has screamed all day after every feed and I'm at a loss really. Trying formula to make sure it isn't hunger but no idea now. Nothings working anymore

Edit: She drank the whole bottle of formula but still isn't settled. Tried a bath, tried massage, tried dummy (which she is now just spitting out). Comfort sucking on me is the only thing that seems to calm her but I think that is making it worse becuase she is getting milk and gulping air at the same time.

I can hear her throw up into her mouth and then scream.. many tears now because she is in so much pain and I can't stop it

[DANNIIM]

Lolpigs we had the same with Abby about 5 days ago and we ended up taking her for a drive.... and it worked a treat, poor darlins end up so tired they find it so hard to settle.

Feeling pretty crapola today . Had to go and put Abby on formula cos my nipples are just so bad, there not healing the pain was getting worse each day each feed. The expressing is just as painful plus I suck at it majorly, was feeling so depressed about it all but DH told me I'm an awesome mum so really trying to think about that everytime I feel I have let Abby down. I just don't remember being this bad with DS2 and he was breastfed till 10 months. I have noticed though even when she feeds from the bottle that she collapses the whole teat though, her suck is so strong.

[Lolpigs]

Lolpigs we had the same with Abby about 5 days ago and we ended up taking her for a drive.... and it worked a treat, poor darlins end up so tired they find it so hard to settle.

Feeling pretty crapola today . Had to go and put Abby on formula cos my nipples are just so bad, there not healing the pain was getting worse each day each feed. The expressing is just as painful plus I suck at it majorly, was feeling so depressed about it all but DH told me I'm an awesome mum so really trying to think about that everytime I feel I have let Abby down. I just don't remember being this bad with DS2 and he was breastfed till 10 months. I have noticed though even when she feeds from the bottle that she collapses the whole teat though, her suck is so strong.

That's the next step if we can't get her to sleep, pop her in the car for a drive. It is just so upsetting. Then she will drift off, then get hiccups and burp and wake up and it starts all over

don't stress about the formula. I felt the same way every time I had to offer the bottle and still do sometimes. Are you sure they haven't gotten infected or got thrush in the wounds? That would cause the lack of healing and constant pain from what I've read.

Hope you can get it sorted soon xx