Babies Born ~ September 2007 #63

hi girls!

Trill: woah! i think *I* need a bex and good lie down from just reading what you guys are up to this week :lol: and wow on L entering the double digits. how does that feel?!! i know that for my mum it was really weird, as for her it really marked a passing of a stage ITMS.

Arte: oh man, i hear ya on sleep = average days. oh boy. what i would give for a sleep in. :hug:, i hope that you did well on the exam despite all the exhaustion.

G: holy moly :o i totally would of pooped my pants! what happened immediately after his shock? did you see it happen or did he tell you about it? omg, i am so glad he is ok :hug:. and ETA: how do we know if there is a safety switch thingo?? i need to know i have one!

Isadora: it took like ages for my boob thrush to clear, but after i had the meds and used the daktarin on her and my nipples for the specified time the pain wasnt there anymore. even though she had the white tongue it wasnt painful for either of us. it did take awhile after that for it to disappear, but once it stopped being a bother we just worked through it and put only some daktarin on when it was flaring up again on her tongue IYKWIM.
all i can recommend is to change your breast pads at every feed. even slight moisture is a doozer.

AFM: well, today. hmmm.

it sucked!

I left Marta at 10.30am happy and full of milk, i returned an HOUR later and she was hysterical. sobbing and hyperventilating all at once :o. she was so distressed that she didnt even notice me or look at me or want cuddles. she was just beside herself. then i boobed her up and she fell asleep...still sobbing :(. then woke up a few minutes later completely beside herself. by this time it was 1pm and i basically hadnt left the place. so i just sat there on the couch with her and cuddled her. then i gave her boob and she fell asleep at 1.30pm for good. i had to run and get to a meeting and DH arrived at 2pm to pick her up....argghhh this is just so frikkin' awful.

oh, and to top it off i am currently in a battle to stop mastitis. because she was so upset and not wanting to feed my boobs got so full and i was so busy comforting her that i didnt realise until it was too late. i am in agony :(

so, yeah, welcome back to work Clare

MD - we don't do Valentines Day here, but DH and I had a lovely evening after the little one was tucked up (hint, hint, nudge, nudge!). K's bestie will be going to the Catholic School and K is going to the local public school. She may not have anyone from care go to her school - the plan at the moment is for her to go to the public school down the road from us, whereas she is currently going to care in town where we work and there are a couple of schools there.

Arte - oh, I hope you did OK in your exam! It's amazing how much space those little people can take up in bed isn't it.

Trill - woah!!

Ginger - wow, that does sound scary. So glad that he is OK.

Cass - how was kindy? ETA - oh dear, not so good then

Isa - they do say some funny things don't they.

Not much to report here - we're all just plodding along.

Cally :clap: well done on getting yerself all lurved up for Val Day...let's face it, that's what it's all about LOL

Cass, hang in there, sweetie, it will all come together. xxx

Isa, I second everything everyone else has said about the thrush...definitely change those breast pads all the time, I stopped using the sposies for that reason (plastic backs aren't breathable). Also sometimes you need bacterial treatment at the same time as the thrush, Barb often recommends a product called Kennacomb.

OMG Cass are you saying that you can be off with one feed and mastitis starts to develop? I am scared!! What are you doing about it? Didnt realise you are back at work, and what MD said, with time it will all fall into place.

MD - Thanks for the advice, I will look into the kennacomb.

Arte - I'm sure you did pass, you always do better than you expect I think. Well done though, my brain is fried after a night of little sleep so you did well.

cass- have you got a breastpump? massage your boobs with an electric toothbrush in a hot shower.
we knew he got a shock as there was a huge bang and he screamed and his hand was all black.

isa- kennacomb was what ended up clearing up my dodgy boob for good. it is the best stuff ever.

i have just signed up to do a cert 2 in first aid, prompted by the shock incident

G, I did a first aid course when I was *just* pg with A so I really should do a refresher.

H, Get yourself some probiotics to help with your gut flora - it will make sure that the thrush stays away for good once the meds clear it. It will also pass onto Eva and help her gut flora too.

Cass, that would have been terrible for you :hug: She's just a Mums girl at heart. I hope you are able to ward off mastitis.

Arte, I'm sure you would have done super well on the exam :)

Well one day down LOL. Didn't manage to get the fabric I wanted but I did find some half decent ready to hang ones so that was alright. Also got some stuff at Myer for the kids too - they had shedloads of discounted stuff and if you spent over $50 you could take an extra 20% off.

i got the kids some nice stuff at myer the other day too trill. i got L some levi's jeans and both the boys some Sooki tops. awesome!

I got some clothes from myer the other day for M on sale. Also got a whole heap of clothes for myself from dotti today, all reduced big time. Love the end of season sales!

Have any of you girls used a breast feeding blanket for public feeding? If so which one is good?

I never used a blanket, I used to just flop em out anywhere lol

haha go you, wish I was that confident!

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I never used a blanket, I used to just flop em out anywhere lol

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me too :rofl: ahhh it's bad though when the toddler runs off and you go after them britney spears style with a boob and baby hanging out lol.

I have a pathological aversion to covering my boobs when feeding! I keep it discrete, but I don't believe in hiding it. BUT having said that Missy E was always terribly distracted so I used to plop a bunny rug over her face sometimes to stop her from looking around every where. My FIL tried to suggest a breastfeeding cape to me once, and lived to regret ever opening his mouth :rofl:

How come I never know when stuff is on sale at Myer?...our Myer's pretty shopped out though, not sure how much decent stuff I'd find up there.

Ginger well done on signing up for first aid. I did a red cross on for free when DD1 was tiny, then did another when I was working in the drs surgery. The kind of thing you hope you never ever have to use.

yeah i missed the myer memo lol. and i still have like $65 on a gift card to spend...it's actually been hard to spend it (mostly because i have decided to not spend it on the girls lol).

MD: hmmm Marta is also a 'looker' while BF. starting to drive me barmy. mebbe i do need a wrap type thingy of some sort to keep her focused??

hmmm now i cant remember what was said in the other page...sorry that i have been slack guys, just trying to get on briefly while DHs dad is here...

Cassius, quickest way to burn through a gift card in myer is to head to the underwear section. Closely followed by perfume (not that you could get a decent bottle for $65, but it's a start ;). How long is FIL staying for?

hi girls

cass- i would probably head to the make up section if i was you and buy a lovely moisturiser or mascara.

md- our myer has been quite good lately. i love the boys' stuff from the brand Sooki and even better when it's on sale.

so i had a coffee again today with my new friend and we've organised to go for a walk next friday! woo hoo!!!!

i'm actually considering joining the local gym as it's super cheap and quiet (not one of those massive overly commercial ones iykwim?) and putting the boys in the creche there for an hour twice a week. whaddya girls think? J has never been in any kind of care but do you think it may do him some good to be there with L for a couple of sessions a week? the carer there is supposed to be a lovely grandma type who has been doing it for centuries LOL

Cass - Or head to the shoe section and get some nice ballet flats. I got a really nice, comfy pair of diana ferrari's the other day for only $35 marked down from $80. My best buy for awhile!

Ginger - I would so go for it, and you will feel better for it yourself.

I can understand not wanting/needing to use a blanket, and really why should we. But I feel so darn awkward trying to get E to attach well, while trying not to expose myself and while controlling M, that in the end I kinda just let her attach any old how and yesterday paid the price a little, was a bit ouchy afterwards. Then I walked past another lady later using a blanket and she looked so relaxed!

I would say get a blanket then isa. Check out mothers direct website and see which ones the aba recommend xo

Isa: i was actually thinking about the blanket thingy and yeah, i can see your point as well. especially considering that WA only recently stopped allowing discrimination against BF mums at restaurants etc. if i felt a bit uncomfy or was having attachment issues then yeah, i would probably try everything to keep it happening! i saw some in baby bunting the other day but i would try "etsy"...they have way cool stuff and with the Oz $ so strong it is great to buy from the US :)

G: i would do it! if it all falls apart and the gym or the creche arent working then at least you gave it a crack. and it's cool that the boys would have eachother IYKWIM. i remember being at the gym care when i was a kidlet...we coped lol! (one place that mum went to was really boring as basically it was just a boring old room with nothing in it, so the following times i brought books and colouring pencils etc to bring).

i need to re-do my first aid. i did one when Leila was 6 months old...so am feeling a bit rusty.

MD: hmmm, mum stocked me up on knickers et al at chrissy...and i dont wanna buy a pretty bra until after i stop BF ITMS...want to know that i can get it to fit lol...so i *think* i might have to check out the shoes :leap: man i love shoes.

OH OH OH! and my totally awesome find for the week (or the century??!) is BigW jeans!! YES. i know, daggy place, but OMG! they are awesome! i bought a pair of their standard range (the ones in the boxes in teh wall) of the skinny blue jeans and they are AMAZING! and only $30!! so cool.

AFM: we are all good! DH had his super succesful book launch last night :dance: so happy for him! and all the books sold!!!! it is actually selling really well, on amazon it has cracked teh top 100,000 mark (i know, not the top 10 like it should be :rofl:). but this is way better than the last book that struggled at around the million mark :). he had the historian Henry Reynolds launch it for him too which was great. then all of us went out for dinner for the most delicious pizza...i got the quattro formaggi...mmmmm. still dreaming of it lol. so it was a late night, and the girls are tired, but they did so well last night i am so proud of them. all our friends and their kids turned up as well (including my dear friends with their little boy with the respiratory problems...soo happy as taht is not easy as there needs to be one of them in the back with the machine to help clear him etc etc...no mean feat). it was just lovely! and i loved it as i got to be a bit dolled up and wore my roberto cavalli strappy heels that i havent worn since, well, since leila was born :rofl: so i felt quite spesh :)

Junglemum and Ginger just worked out why you both seemed familiar, dd1 was due in sept 2007 but came in July instead so we were probably belly buddies all those years ago!

Cass, that sounds like an awesome night! And well done to your DH with his new book. What is his area of study?

G, the gym is worth a go, nothing to lose if it doesn't work out. I am sure you are allowed to go as a causal a few times before you get a membership. I think J would be fine with L there, you said they play together well.

Isadora, I promise it is going to get much easier soon - one day soon you will suddenly realise that it has become a reflex action.

Black_rose, did you have a different user name back in the day?

ILs arrived today. They are excited about the new baby as I knew they would be. Makes me feel even worse about my mum's crappy reaction (ewwww, why would you want another, don't you have your hands full enough etc)

Awwww Arte, that sucks your Mum reacted like that :hug: She has so many issues she needs to sort out. But I'm super happy that the IL's are happy for you all.

Cass, that is just awesomely fantastic news for him! I bet he is so happy with himself.

Well day 3 down LOL. My big boy turns double digits tomorrow too *sniff*.

Oh Arte, I'm sorry for your mums bad reaction to #3. Maybe as time goes on she will become more excited. I'm glad your in laws are happy though.

Cass - Congrats to your hubby! Its nice to get all dolled up every now and then, sounds like you had a pretty successful and fun night out. Thanks for mentioning etsy, awesome stuff and cheap!!

Trill - Enjoy today, hope it isnt too emotional for you :)

arte- what a disappointing reaction from your mum :(

trill-omg!!! i can't believe he's such a big boy now! how do you feel about it?

cass- congrats on dh's book doing so well

md- i'd luv you to explain more about what the baby's stork marks mean (from another thread) :) so interesting

so tired today, the boys both have some sort of cold/cough. not nice :(

Ginger, bummer about the colds. W went to bed fine the other night and woke up an hour later with a massive temp and runny nose.

Trill, Happy Birthday for L!

Mmmmm. Didn't really expect any better from mum. Having kids ruined her life (confidence booster lol) and she thinks everyone else having children is doing the same. But she will admit that my children are well-behaved and well mannered. I have never told her about their awful sleeping because I know she would just say "you choose to have them....". I have never ever asked her to do anything for us, never asked her to babysit, nothing. All she has to do is visit them for an hour or so every few months when we take them down there and she gets them a Christmas and birthday present to play the good nana. I strongly suspect that having a third child will put us in the dreaded breeder category too.

But never mind, I am having a great day. The IL's have been entertaining the kids and I have hardly seen them all day! A didn't have a feed this morning or tonight, so hopefully she will wean soon. I am so impressed with A, she is happy as anything to be all over the IL's even though she hasn't seen them for nearly 6 months which is a long time for a 18 month old. I remember we had big issues with them when W was this age because they were all over him and he was freaking out and they thought I wasn't letting them be proper grandparents. But I think they have realised now that it wasn't about them, it was about W.

ETA, OMG Ginger, look at your ticker!! Surely that isn't right!

It absolutely is right! Can you believe it? I actually cried about it today.
I have a great day planned for him. The boys are both looking forward to it.

A sounds like an absolute delight.

Isa - do what you feel comfy with sweetie, in time you will look back and giggle that it seemed such a big decision! :) check out the BFing blanket/capes for their features, you might do just as well with a light, breathable bunny rug or similar.

Ginger, go for it with the gym! If it doesn't work you might just need to try another place, kwim? I'm pretty happy just bouncing around like a lunatic to my own playlist on my rebounder for now, but I see the day coming when that gets old. I meant to go back to the stork-mark thread, thanks for reminding me.

Cass, I had a little proud moment for your DH when I read about his launch etc. Sounds like it was a fabulous event, kudos for getting famous historian to launch, and YAY for dressing up! :clap:

I'm a bit stumped as to whether I should know who black-rose is too?

:hug: Arte - you don't need your silly mum's approval when you've got all of us thrilled for you!!! BTW having kids didn't ruin her life, her ****ty attitude did. Glad A is gelling with the ILs so nicely. We're about to have an IL visit soon...bracing myself...kids are looking forward to it which is nice :).

Trill, hope the birthday went off beautifully...BTDT with the double-digits, we're staring down the barrel of teenagerhood this year. :o. Time flies when you're having fun. Or not.

Ok wont bother with the breastfeeding blanket, managed to feed her just fine in public today with a bunny rug placed lightly on her head (not covering face), it was fine for her and allowed me to feel a little protected. DH said he couldnt see a thing

Yep well those DHs have got super-boobie-spotting vision, hehe, so sounds like that is a solution. Well done to you getting out and about even while you're still getting the hang of it all :clap:. Something to feel justifiably proud of!

hi girls
how is everyone?
both boys are still sick here so we're having a quiet day at home. we were meant to go swimming, bummer!
oh well, hopefully L is better for kinder on wednesday.

hi girls!

G: ah bum on the snots and coughs! a few mates have been out of action with their kids over snot monsters...ahhh the season is a comin', oh joy lol!

Isa: yeah i was wondering if a muslin wrap or something would be good...also, i have a Ripe BF top that slides across (rather than lifts up ITMS) and i dont show ANY boob in it...has little slits in the fabric, gosh i hope that i am explaining it right...i love it because there are no clips or anything, just slide it across and voila and the ruched up fabric covers all boob...just a thought).

MD: thanks babe :hug: i am so proud of him :)

Arte: that is a doozer from you mum :o.

AFM: we are all good! so much so mostly because....leila is eating again :leap:!!! not sure what changed it but it is FANTASTIC! she has a big burst of energy now, thank goodness!! i am still going to keep a close eye, but hopefully it was a passing thing and mebbe just a readjustment issue with the new room at kinder :dunno:

hi girls

isa- i was also going to suggest the idea of a breastfeeding top for you - Queen Bee maternity has some great ones

cass- glad that L is eating again, hopefully it keeps going.

girls i have a friend that has a huge dam at her house right near the house iykwim? i've always been really conscious of it and alwways make sure that when i am there that the door is dead bolted...but, lately i have been having really specific dreams about a child drowning in the dam. it is really freaking me out. last night i woke up really scared and had to check on both of the kids. i'm at the point where i just can't go to her house anymore. i feel bad as she is always inviting me over (she has 2 boys the same age). do you think i am going mad?

I don't think you're going mad G. It's a reasonable fear to have and it's probably worrying you so much that it's triggered you to have dreams about it. If it is at this point then I'd probably stay away for a little while too

Cass, that's fantastic that she's eating again.

Ginger I'm really paranoid about drowning too, so if that were me i would probably stay away too. Especially with the dreams. :hug: Are the boys feeling a bit better today?

Cass, yay for eating! Do you still have FIL there?

I've just texted Arte because I've just got home and seen the news, looks terrible. I'm sure she's well away from it all but it must be such a shock to everyone in NZ.

Have we solved the black rose mystery yet (feel free to PM ladies)

hi md

the boys are doing heaps better. J has really bad nappy rash though so i think he may be getting his 2 yo molars. can't get in there to have a look though! lol

i feel bad staying away from her house but it is really starting to affect me. i actually went down to the local aquatic centre this morning to check it out and have L starting lessons next week, this is how much the dreams have been affecting me.

i hope arte is ok too, hopefully she pops on here soon

what is the black rose mystery? i am so confused

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Junglemum and Ginger just worked out why you both seemed familiar, dd1 was due in sept 2007 but came in July instead so we were probably belly buddies all those years ago!

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Ginger, a member called black rose popped in last week and Arte and I haven't been able to place her...any ideas? Different user name then or do I just have a really bad memory?

why am i familiar? i don't get it?

See...it's a mystery!!! I wondered if black rose was someone you and JM might've met IRL? (think, Ginger, think)! ...Sam something??

i am so much more confused now! LOL

um, might go and do a search on her....

I am o.k. We are in the North Island. News footage still coming in. The cathedral is ruined, a massive NZ icon. Like Sydney losing the opera house. Death toll at 65 confirmed and expected to rise. Just unbelievable!

oh no! how horrible

good to hear from you though....