Trill: is it going to be major surgery or is a day thing? what about rehab stuff? thank goodness that you got it checked out! i think i will be too scared to look down there after this baby is born lol. although i have been trying to do my 5 squats a day (apparently the 'new' kegels lol).
Arte: oh i know what you mean about getting 66%...it's a frustrating one as you can't be cross, but also think...soooo close to being better lol. but for a 15% it's will serve you well.
Cally: yeah, the italy trip has been drastically reduced! it was meant to be 5 months, then it was 10 weeks, and now it will only be 5 weeks. we had no choice on the return as everyone here is flying out to Hong Kong lol. so had to get the only available tickets and upgrade to premium economy (whatever that means lol).
AFM: all good here! had a lovely day visiting an old professor of DHs that we get along famously with; so nice to get away from the usual family stuff and do something different I am totally on countdown now...although i am looking forward to my last shopping trip in florence. this time i am determined to bring something home hahaha.
been getting some totally awesome kicks and rolls from the baby too!! so happy, took AGES this time! considering that Miss M made her presence known well and truly by 12 weeks, i was totally freaked when this one was acting all 'first pregnancy' on me hahahaha.
MD, hope you had a fantastic 20th anniversary! What a milestone! Did you know what he was planning?
Sminland is on the 9th of next month. I should be alright this time. The big kids aren't too bad sleep wise atm. Hopefully E will be sleeping better by then too (I can always dream...). Better than last time when both the kids weren't sleeping and I was 7 months preg. Don't think I will ever forgive DH for that one, considering it was only a conference he didn't have to attend.
Cass, E was slow to get going too - I felt W at 15ish weeks, A at 13 weeks and E was still barely moving by the 20 week scan. Yay for getting more movement now
Back to kindy today A seems to have grown up a lot over the holidays and is talking more and complying with the teachers instead of shrieking at them lol.
Will start weekly school visits on Wednesday - it is only 8 weeks until he starts!! He is getting a bit worried about it but the visits should help.
Well, didn't do the school visit this week. The morning went bust with a 1.5 hour ordeal over pants and by the time we got to kindy he was upset and surly. Will try again on a more positive day. I stuffed up there forcing the issue about pants. I should have just let him wear the tattered old ones for the next couple of months and saved us both a boat load of stress I think I will try to bow out gracefully and let him wear the damn things. I waver between 'they are only pants, it isn't a big deal as long as he is happy' and 'just wear the new f*****g pants!!!'. Very frustrating.
Got welcomed into middle age today with a diagnoses of gall stones I have had a tight/burning pain in my upper back for a few weeks and had slowly become convinced that the breast lumps that I have been ignoring for the last few months had spread everywhere lol. But nope, just some not likely to be anything serious lumps and some gallstones. Suddenly wishing I had PHI though, looks like a long wait for the scan to confirm the gallstones and a surgeon visit to see if they want to do anything about the lumps.
Not sure if I can face life with no sugar and no fat, so looks like burning discomfort is my new friend lol. I had an attack a few months back but thought it was indigestion/impending death at the time lol, fingers crossed that doesn't happen again - way more painful than childbirth!
Bugger Arte! That would suck bigtime! Arte, what are you going to do about a school uniform for W? Or do they just wear casual clothes? Hope the visit happens next time
MD, the date would have been lovely. And Happy Anniversary too! 20 years these days is a massive achievement.
Cass, I think it depends on what they do as to how long you're in hospital. Some are a day surgery, some are 2-3 days and another method is 3-6 days stay. I'm really hoping that they can do it laparoscopicly and not have to cut through the vaginal wall to put the mesh in. I think there will be physio afterwards too, similar to after you have a baby.
Thanks everyone for the congratulations. Yes I did know what was planned, I suggested it to him, but then I tried to forget everything I knew and act surprised. LOL. Secret to a happy marriage.
Trill - 20 years as a massive achievement... I know, I feel like some kind of veteran . Those surgery options sound like it's going to be pretty involved. Here's hoping they can do the least invasive version of repair for you, it's not just the days in hospital but more days translates to longer recuperation afterwards too.
Arte, my fullest commisserations on your gallstoney status . Whatever you do, do NOT have fish and chips. Or indian food. I found that I could handle anything up to about 10g of fat in a single sitting (eg main meal) without getting an attack, esp if it was good veggie oils, the saturated fat was the worst trigger. No probs at all with sugar or carbs. I kept a store of lean cuisine dinners on hand for when I couldn't think up a low fat version of the usual dinner, and I weighed and measured everything else fanatically. And my secret weapon is an off the shelf drug called buscopan, I found out about just before I got my gallbladder out, it's a wonder drug, it stops the waves of spasming/writhing/vomiting that causes the impending death sensation. My other gallstone attack tip involves the use of maxolon (take it first so you can keep the pain meds/buscopan down) and if not a mouthful of gaviscon helps the vom come out tasting fresh and minty LOL. And what's this about breast lumps? Aaaaargh I can only imagine how much that's been weighing on you especially knowing all the palaver that I went through . I take you've had some prelim scans (mammo/ultrasound) which is why your doc is happy to send you along to the surgeon at a leisurely rate?
Cass, are you happy about coming home, or disappointed that your stay in Italia has been cut so short?
MD: man, what a sweet thing to be swept off your feet for a romantic night away...aaahhhhh!
I will be so happy to be home i am NOT looking forward to the 30+ hours of straight travel. in fact, i am breaking out in a cold sweat just thinking about it.
I will be sad that the Big Trip is over and that i am kissing goodbye summer for a little while (i have been spoilt with a continuous summer since november last year basically), but am glad to be leaving Italy in all honesty. The GFC has hit scary hard here and is a bit confronting at times...
Trill: sheesh, some of those are really long hossy stays. here's to a nice, small op and nice, easy going recuperation program
Arte: oh my goodness woman...you crack me up. you keep your fears of imminent death after an attack all quiet huh? lol. what are wait times like in NZ for surgery? Hopefully nothing like here in Oz.
Is there any way that you can get W to wear the new pants out of school? as a way to break them in? tell him it would be good to get 'em nice and dirty
AFM: our final weekend abroad!!! we leave here on tuesday and land in Oz on thursday (did i mention that we bought super tight-bummed tickets )
MD, lol at acting surprised From memory, E had a bit of a hand washing phase a while ago didn't she? Did it resolve on its own?
No scan or mammogram for the boob, he is referring me straight to the surgeon. I thought that was a bit odd?
Thanks for the gallstone tips. I generally just have an ache between my shoulder blades that comes and goes. It is the prospect of more of those attacks that feel like someone is twisting a knife in your back that is really not appealing. The Dr mentioned something about in the next 6 months - I can live with it if it stays mild. Will be sure to stay away from the fish and chips. They are pretty crappy in town anyway.
Far out, I don't even want to think about the uniform. It won't just be the pants, it will be everything. Just hoping that he will wear it because everyone else does!
Cass, hope your flight goes well. Has your morning sickness passed?
Arte, is is the texture of the new fabric he doesn't like (because it's not soft/worn in)? You could try soaking them in Epsom salts or washing salts like people do to break their towels in. Just a thought.
I can only imagine how blindingly infuriating that must be!! Mind you, DD1 has a persistant habit of having me buy clothes for her, they come home, are washed, go into the wardrobe/drawers, and are never seen again until she pulls them out 18 months later and declares they are now too small for her . Drives... me..... INSANE!!! Luckily Miss E is a happy clothing experimenter, she's likes to riffle through her drawers and chose what to wear, she happily mixes and matches according to her own sense of what looks nice together, in a way that DD1 *never* did (she was always obsessed with things not "matching" according to her own weird rules about colour and nothing else). She must've inherited her father's dress sense. Le sigh. Thank the gods I'm not a fashionista kinda yummy mummy type or the poor kid would be in therapy by now PMSL.
The hand washing must've resolved itself because I can't remember it now. Although she did do a step by step demonstration in the middle of dinner last night of the 5 steps of correct handwashing as taught by Jane The Kindy Teacher . And we do seem to be going through *very* large amounts of liquid hand soap, so maybe she just enjoys the soap pump aspect of it. Tidy little detail-oriented virgo that she is .
Arte - investigation of gallstones within a 6 mth timeframe seems reasonable provided you're not having the acute attacks. If they start up make sure you get on the phone and make noises about being seen earlier. Re the breast surgeon, is that in the private or public system? In the public system here women wait anything up to 4 weeks (but usually less than 2 weeks) to be seen the first time but subsequent tests etc tend to happen pretty quickly after that. When can you expect to find out when your appointment date is?
Cass - good luck for the flight. May the transit gods shine upon you with spare seats, complimentary upgrades and most of all clean toilets.
MD, public waiting list. Dr didn't give a time frame for the boob but I assume it will be in the next 3-5 weeks while DH is away so I have to take all three kids with me lol. I did have a pap smear a couple of months ago with both girls sitting on the bed with me and W chatting away the whole time - no privacy at all these days!!
That would be entirely infuriating having clothes outgrown before they are worn. I know A has inherited a few of W's clothes that he barely wore.
Ahhh MD, your travel blessing is welcomed enthusiastically! we already have an upgrade to premium economy (whatever that means...like what? served first lol?!), and have super awesome transit times (phew!) but it does make for one looonnnggg trip.
we have the opposite with the handwashing and i have to follow Miss L to the bathroom door to make sure that afterwards she washes her hands. (arte, you have amazing memory...i now remember MD mentioning Es handwashing lol).
Arte: man, and here i was thinking that i was rocking the whole mama thang while having Miss M on my belly and Leila beside me while i got an eyebrow wax
Thankfully the MS has passed i cannot imagine doing this trip with MS on top...
AFM: well, we had a very eventful day at the playground yesterday; poor Miss M took a major fall from a 5 foot wall onto sharp rocks and cut the back of her head open in quite a deep and nasty fashion. being a head wound we were both completely soaked within seconds (yes, i was wearing a white t-shirt!). a big rush to hospital and she has had stitches put in (didnt cry when they did that without anaesthetic ). we slept beside her last night for concussion watch, but she woke up this morning right as rain. i am worried about her finding the stitches though as they had to keep the string quite long because of all her hair. but hopefully she will forget about (and pigs might fly!). the gross thing is that i cannot wash her hair out for a few days....eeewwwwwww. it's funny because when it happened i was totally calm and had all my senses (while DH was like a chook with its head chopped off lol) but then that night i broke down. it was really scary seeing her fall like that...
Cass, that must have been horrible watching her fall. I hope she screamed straight away, not that hideous silence that lasts forever when they are hurt really bad
I always used to have a fantastic memory - used to just read something once and I could be guaranteed a good mark in exams but these days with no sleep I suck.
MD, thanks again for all your advice. I will get some of that Buscopan to have on standby. I am terrified of those attacks! Hopefully I can get away without having any more, but will certainly try the Gaviscon for minty fresh puke if the need arises
I have just finished booking the caravan and ferry for our South Island holiday Three whole weeks, via Nelson, Franz Josef to see BIL and go on a helicopter ride, a few days in Central Otago, down to Gore for DH's granny's 80th, then up to Dunedin (Cadbury factory ), Christchurch and home again. We have planned it so there isn't too much travel on any day, hopefully it will be good fun - the IL's still talk about a trip they did in the North Island when their kids were the age of ours.
Cass - oh, that fall does sound bad, poor little thing. Super good wishes for the travelling.
Arte - don't like the sound of those gallstones. And I hope you get into the boobie surgeon pretty quickly (and of course that it turns out to just be cysts!)
Handwashing - apparently it's not important at home - neither is toilet flushing. And sitting in the back seat making fart noises and saying it's mummy doesn't count as toilet talk either..... Little grot!
Starting dance lessons this weekend. Wonder how long until she isn't attached to my leg. We were at her BFF's party last weekend and it still took her ages to settle in and couldn't play any of the organised party games without hanging on to me. At least there is only one of her - a mum of twins had both of them attached to her leg (she had very impressive balance, I suppose from 4 years of practice with two of them!)
Cally, there is a mum that went to soccer and had to drag her twins around like that Dance lessons sound fun. My girls would love that when they are bigger.
Finally managed a school visit today and it went really well. He was happy enough to participate in whatever the class was doing and went out to play with some old kindy friends at morning tea time.
There are only 10 kids in the class and two have part time teacher aides, plus there was a volunteer in there today so there is an amazing ratio.
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Cass, that must've been terrifying. So relieved she's ok. Time for y'all to come home once people start falling over!!
Cally, we had nearly 3 years of full-on clinging pretty much any time we went any where where there was a group of people. She seems to have suddenly turned a corner though, I'm not sure if it's new confidence from going to kindy, or what. But suddenly, no more clinging! (huzzah!) HOpe it's a very short-lived phase. What sort of dance lessons are they? Is is a class where the mummies can join in too?
Arte - your holiday sounds FANTASTIC!! Wish I was touring around a bit of NZ. We keep talking about it in a vague kind of way, but we've got too many other tedious expenses we have to deal with first. W's school visit sounds great, he'll have no problems settling right in. Do they go many times? At E's school they only visit twice, for half days, but the first week they actually start school they only go for half the day all week. Helps them cope at bit better. i can't believe it's getting this close, it seems like only a couple of years ago that H was pulling on her oversized uniform for the first time!!
I am totally on countdown now...although i am looking forward to my last shopping trip in florence. this time i am determined to bring something home hahaha. 
A seems to have grown up a lot over the holidays and is talking more and complying with the teachers instead of shrieking at them lol.
I think I will try to bow out gracefully and let him wear the damn things. I waver between 'they are only pants, it isn't a big deal as long as he is happy' and 'just wear the new f*****g pants!!!'. Very frustrating.
. Whatever you do, do NOT have fish and chips. Or indian food. I found that I could handle anything up to about 10g of fat in a single sitting (eg main meal) without getting an attack, esp if it was good veggie oils, the saturated fat was the worst trigger. No probs at all with sugar or carbs. I kept a store of lean cuisine dinners on hand for when I couldn't think up a low fat version of the usual dinner, and I weighed and measured everything else fanatically. And my secret weapon is an off the shelf drug called buscopan, I found out about just before I got my gallbladder out, it's a wonder drug, it stops the waves of spasming/writhing/vomiting that causes the impending death sensation. My other gallstone attack tip involves the use of maxolon (take it first so you can keep the pain meds/buscopan down) and if not a mouthful of gaviscon helps the vom come out tasting fresh and minty LOL. And what's this about breast lumps? Aaaaargh I can only imagine how much that's been weighing on you especially knowing all the palaver that I went through 
. Drives... me..... INSANE!!! 
. And we do seem to be going through *very* large amounts of liquid hand soap, so maybe she just enjoys the soap pump aspect of it. Tidy little detail-oriented virgo that she is 
i cannot imagine doing this trip with MS on top...
). we slept beside her last night for concussion watch, but she woke up this morning right as rain. i am worried about her finding the stitches though as they had to keep the string quite long because of all her hair. but hopefully she will forget about (and pigs might fly!). the gross thing is that i cannot wash her hair out for a few days....eeewwwwwww. it's funny because when it happened i was totally calm and had all my senses (while DH was like a chook with its head chopped off lol) but then that night i broke down. it was really scary seeing her fall like that...
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