Babies born ~July 1st-15th 2010 #2

Ahh, honestly, isn't it nice to just say it!:D

I did controlled crying with my older three children , no problem at all. A - oh dear i'm finding it all so hard! I also struggled with putting her in her own room. That only happened a couple of weeks ago :shakehead: while my older 3 were in their rooms by 4ish months. I don't know if it's because I know this is it, A is my very last baby and I'm clinging on for dear life, but it is definately so much harder this time . :dunno:
I also can't let A do it during the night because she's in the same room with DD who 1) already wakes up numerous times during the night (she's 3.5) and 2) she will wake at the drop of a hat. So i'm battling through just like all of us seem to be atm.
The thing i'm finding the hardest atm is that because i'm so tired all the time, I feel bad about myself, get cranky so easily, and my other children and DH are the recipients of a not so happy mummy / wife. Unfortunately, they also have to battle through it too!

Hoping everyone has more than 2 consecutive hours sleep tonight.:pray:

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The thing i'm finding the hardest atm is that because i'm so tired all the time, I feel bad about myself, get cranky so easily, and my other children and DH are the recipients of a not so happy mummy / wife. Unfortunately, they also have to battle through it too!

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Amen to that sister. I hear ya.

On a happy note - I bought new jeans today!!!!!!

I am back to my pre-preggy weight but I'm a completely different shape so none of my jeans fit me. So today I went shopping with no kids and got to try on lots of jeans with no toddler running around tearing apart the shop and no baby screaming for attention. It was lovely!

I bought an awesome pair of those new Levi's "curved" range. They are so comfy!

Have a great night everyone.

Super sleepy 8 hour straight vibes for all households tonight.

Great job on the new jeans OP

So how did you girls go last night. I got struck down with a migraine about 9pm last night and had no choice but to go to bed, poor DH got the kids all ready for bed, DD came and hopped in bed with me and went straight to sleep (We are a little different to many we love DD in our bed but we were never co sleepers) E was in bed at 10:30pm (my kids go to bed quite late, it works for us) and didnt wake up until 6 hours later, I fed him changed his nappy and 5 hours later he is still asleep, I think DH should put them to bed everynight lol.

Hope you girls had as much luck as me

Sal - how good of E to give you such a good's night rest when you had a headache! Has he done the same thing since? Interesting how you put the kids to bed then. I'd be happy to do that with T if it meant he slept later! But I've got the impression he's up with the sun, or not too long after.

OP - Nice work finding some good jeans. Oh how I wish I could find a couple of decent outfits! If only I could afford a fashion adviser.

AFU - still waking up lots. Haven't tried controlled crying again, DH has been getting him to sleep fairly easily the last couple of nights. And T has nappy rash for the first time. I'm wondering whether it's a formula thing. He's also had some crazy green poo.

Does anyone use snapfish to do photobooks etc? I've almost finished making a photobook of T's first 6 months, they have a 40% off promotion at the moment and I'm trying to get it finished before Sunday when it runs out! If anyone has an account and is interested in seeing some photos of T I can share it with you. :)

Hi Em, my two always go to bed between 9:30pm and 10:30pm and they wake for the day between 8am and 9am. My DD has always known from the very start that if she wakes early that she gets in with me and then goes back to sleep and I have been doing the same thing with E, if he wakes I make a bottle go get him and bring him to my bed feed him the bottle and we go back to sleep. If my kids went to bed at 7:30 they would never see their dad so this works really well for us.

E slept good for two nights in a row which was much needed as you guys also know. Last night he was a bit unsettled but nothing too bad and we will see how tonight goes.

Do you think T is hungry? I used to give my DD some more rice cereal or something before bed which seemed to get a little bit longer out of her, just some ideas, you have probably tried it all.

I wish I could have a fashion adviser too I am soooo boring, and I love trackies lol

Sal – I see you picked up on the ‘first time’ bit in my last post. I guess I wasn’t (still not really) game to say how many times he’s fallen off the change table :hide: I don’t know how he does it. He completely baffles me. I can be watching him with my hand ON HIM and he still manages to somehow squirm off and splat on the ground. And he does splat, makes a splatting sound….guess that’s better then the thunk that would come with him landing on his head…..He just slithers through my fingers…he might as well be a greased pig for as much luck as I have holding on to him when he wants to wiggle free :shakehead:

I’m also another one that leaves there bub asleep next to their DH.

OP – I’ve done that to B in the middle of the night….he wants to play…I desperately want to sleep. There was once I woke DH (I don’t wake him up during the week because he works with power tools and whatnot and I guess I’m afraid of him hurting himself at work if he doesn’t get enough sleep) practically threw B at him. Told him I couldn’t deal with it any more, I was too tired and sick and just left him there sleepy and confused with a screaming baby while I went and slept in the other bedroom to pass out with exhaustion. I was so tired and frustrated and angry…then I felt horrible and like a bad mother for getting that mad at my baby.

Like Sal I wish I lived closer…I’d take your two for you for a while so you could get a bit of a break. Hope your in-laws having them gave you a bit of a chance to rest.

WOOHOOO on the new jeans :happydance:

Emma – B flying through the air to splat on the floor probably would have been quite hilarious to see if I’d not been so worried about him landing on his head, or something that would hurt him. That having been said he seems to have splatting down to a fine art form. He somehow manages to land on his belly every time.

Em, OP (well I think everyone else) – Don’t feel bad about the controlled crying. I can’t personally do it, but not because I think it’s wrong (if done the right way) more so that I personally am physically unable to listen to B cry. I think it has something to do with my childhood (dad messed me and my brother up pretty good). I actually get a physical reaction (shakes, sweat, super agitated, fast breathing….the whole anxiety attack works and jerks) :o when B cries

No I don’t use snapfish for photobucket, but I’d LOVE to see some of your photos!

AFU - B finally sits up now! Or maybe I should say that he’s actually discovered he can do it on his own. There have been odd times when he’s been leaning against the dogs in a sitting position and they’ve moved and he’s been left sitting there, but he never actively tried to sit himself. He’d do this weird side lieing leany thing. But he’s started sitting and playing with things now :clap:

Hi all

Quick post as I'm in bed about to try and get some sleep...

Nights still bad. Got a referral today to a sleep school - but a gentle one. Have rung and requested an info pack.

I've come down with a head cold - not fun. Thankfully Dh has come home early and he is going to be me this arvo - look after kids and get the house in order. Mind you I had to make him a list that said "3.30 put roast on, 4.30 put potatoes on. Bring in dry clothes. Hang out washing. Put nappies on. X sleep approx 2pm"

:lol:

Have been meaning to ask Dr T something for a while now... Did I see you posting in the TTC buddies thread???? :happyforyou:

Dr tal - I know how B falls off the change table because E is the same he wriggles sooooo much for christ sake kid just let me change your nappy and dress you it will take 1 minute then you can go instead of taking me 5 minutes or more and then leaving me exhausted just from trying to dress you.

Crappy night for is last night was up every 2 hours from midnight, I went to bed at 11:55pm lol arrrrrr any then at 4:30am E decided he couldnt get himself back to sleep so I stayed up for 45 mins trying to get him settled which woke DD who then got up which meant DH had to get up to get her back into bed. Then he woke again at 6:30 so I put him in our bed, so there was DD on DH's side E in the middle and me on my side and we all slept until 9:30, was a good sleep knowing he was in the middle and wasnt going to fall out.

Op - sucks about your cold, hope you sleep so well this afternoon you deserve it.

Just wanted to give all you great mummies a pat on the back for being open and honest with each other in here, getting things off our chests and showing each other that while we do the best damn job we can we are not perfect and no one expects us to be.

OP – ME???? In the TTC thread……:hide: What would give you that idea?? :D

Yeah, you did. DH and I decided at the beginning of the month. I’m still really of two minds about it. Guess I didn’t really realise how traumatised I was with my pregnancy and labour with B. I’ve got a few issues to work through. But at the end of the day I keep coming back to the fact that I really don’t want B to be an only child. I have lots of reasons and it’s something I feel really strongly about. I also would like the two kids to be no more then 3 years apart…given that it took DH and I about 18 months for B (AND combined with the fact that I’m not getting any younger) AND given that DH has wonky mutant backwards swimming sperm, my ovaries that doesn’t like ovulating, no AF having returned AND that It hink I’ve only ovulated twice since B was born (round about October and earlier this month)……..Well we figured we probably should start trying.

Sal – It’s so glad to hear that I’m not the only mummy who can’t seem to change their child without chasing them around the change table for 5 minutes first and have it ending in a crying fit.

Sorry to hear you had a bad night. I didn’t get enough sleep either, but it was my fault…I didn’t climb into bed until close to midnight too :redface: then about 10 minutes after I did B decided it was time to wake up and play :doh:

Woohooooooo Dr T!!!! I will stalk the TTC thread with a vengance now. That's very exciting! Fair enough on wanting to get cracking.

We're still undecided about #3... but if we do, it won't be for a while and I'll have to live vicariously through other people's pregnancies! Hence the stalking!!

Good luck hun.

Back to this thread - question - what do you guys do for brekkie for your LOs? X is being a fuss pot - will suck on a bit of toast but turns his nose up at Weeties, baby cereal, farex... Don't know what else to try!

Hi all,

Dr Tal - Congrats on making the decision about TTC for # 2, hope it all goes to plan for you!

I don't even bother with the change table now because A was the same with moving and it just drove me mad. I just sit and change her on the floor - the other kids keep her busy talking to her down there lol

How's everyone's sleeping going? Annabelle seems to be a little better the last couple of night. I think it's because her tooth has gone back down. Still waiting for the first one to cut, I could feel the bloody thing the other day and now, just a little lump again.

SO DH is away at the moment, and of course, that's when everything goes to s**t! And last night, it literally did!!! I had a morning tea here for all the defence partners in the area, it was lovely, a friend stayed for dinner as her DH is away also. All good putting the twins to bed then at about 8pm, I start getting stomach cramps. Then DS6 comes and tells me he has them too. Within half an hour, I can't get off the toilet and vomiting horribly :( It was horrible! I'm taking motilium for bf so I think that may have helped a little because my vomiting subsided by 11ish and came back about 2am , but poor DS6, I've never seen anyone so ill. It was just constant. He had a few accidents in his pants because he'd grab the bucket to vomit but it would come out the other end too. He ended up laying naked on towels at my ensuite door so he could reach the toilet and bucket. I know how terrible I was feeling so he did an amazing job dealing with it. He cried the first time he vomited and said "mummy, I don't like this, make it stop" . After that , he was a trooper though and just dealt with it. At about 3am, DS3 started! He wasn't too bad - only a could of vomits. BUt during this time, poor A woke a few times. At one stage,I just had to let her cry and cry because I literally could not get to her. I'm so glad she had a better night than we've been having. My friend brought me some gastrolite and informs me that two of the ladies who came to the morning tea had had gastro on Wednesday and another one had it on Monday. Personally, I won't be going near anyone for a few days, thought it a little inconsiderate to not tell people they'd been sick. I would have suggested they not come. What would you do?????

So today, tummy is still a little off, but we're on the mend , thank goodness! And don't you know it, DH is coming home TODAY! Story of my life......:wall:

Uhhh owens - that is terrible of them. We had gastro through our house recently and I steered clear of people when I could - certainly I cancelled things like morning teas. I'm sure it was a lovely gathering (if you hosted it must have been :D ) but seriously, they should have been more considerate.

You poor thing. Poor DS, poor A, poor other DS, poor everyone! Except DH. DH I hope is running around after all of you and showering you with love and good things now that he is home!

:hug: What a rough trot for you guys. I feel for you - it was bad enough when DH got it, then later, DS. Not at the same time!

Anyway... we're still all bad over here WRT sleep. I've sent in an intake form for a sleep clinic. Its a gentle one - I went there for their day stay programme with DD but I feel that we need more with DS, so I'm going to ask about the residential programme. He just wakes and is not happy until he's picked up and cuddled, then wants to sit and be held for 1-2hrs. Grr.

Don't get me wrong ladies - I love my little man to bits, he's the most gorgeous, social little creature - he follows me and DD around now, has to be where the action is! And I will go to him and tend him when he is upset, I don't like hearing him upset at all. But when it is 4am and he's already been up and down several times, he's got a clean bum, a full tum, he's warm and secure, why won't he sleep? I just get frustrated. And the tiredness feeds the frustration.

So, why am I still awake now? To bed, to bed.

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Sleepy vibes all.

Oh owens my god you poor thing, the power of a woman hey you are amazing how you do it all yourself. Hope your all feeling better.

OP - I think sleep school is a good move I so hope it helps you and X get some sleep, funny little critters arent they, if only he could tell you why he wakes. In the meantime could you put an item of your clothing or a breastpad into his bed maybe if he can smell you he might settle.... maybe not, I am sure you have tried almost everything, I am just so desperate for sleep for you.
In regards to breaky, E eats everything lol so we have no problems there he will eat rice cereal or weet bix but sometimes he will have toast or yogurt and fruit, have you tried yogurt?? Or what about just plain old porridge, E loves that (lil chubba) think outside the square too, maybe it doesnt have to be a breakfast type food, you could try vegies or something. I am not sure if you have tried egg or not but you could make some french toast. E has had egg, by accident really DD shared her omelette with him lol, he loved it. Oh and she shared her satay chicken so no peanut allergy either thank god. Oh you could try pancakes, no sugar of course I make E and DD some just one egg, one cup of milk and 1 cup plain wholemeal flour and whisk it up, they love it.

Dr Tal - so exciting to be trying for number 2 I wish you speedy swimmers and on time eggs lol, go get yourself some accupunture and some herbs and get your system balanced.
We havent decided on number 3 or not, some mornings I decide yep i am having a 3rd and by afternoon, I change my mind lol. I feel complete and not complete at the same time so dont know which way we will go yet, I love babies so much, I just wish the stork delivered them.

AFU - DH had his checkup (melanoma) in melbourne today and all is good, then he said we should go to the Aquarium so off we went, way too overpriced etc but the kids loved it and thats all that matters.

xo

Sal, thank you, you are a definite sweety. How cool is the aquarium?? Overpriced, yes, but fun! Glad you guys made some fun out of a miserable start... How was the check up? ETFix... Glad it was all good!!!!

X and I watching some late night TV together. Woo.

Dh is here too... Asleep on the other couch, can't wake him :lol:

Sal - great to hear DH got the all clear! How often will he get checked?

OP - I hope sleep school works! I wonder what a "gentle" one means?
Owens - you poor thing, you and the kids getting sick with DH away! Life is terribly unfair sometimes. :hug:

Dr T - good luck with TTC#2!

AFU - we have an overtired baby who isn't interested in going to bed. He only had one nap today, usually he at least makes an attempt at 2. Maybe because we didn't go anywhere for the first time in recent memory today? T's latest trick is waving. It's so cute. I really made a point of waving goodbye to people a couple of times earlier in the week, and also when he dropped his spoon the other day I waved to it and said "Bye bye spoon." And then yesterday when he dropped it he leaned across the high chair and waved at it! And then last night as I was leaving the room with T my dad called "Bye bye", and T waved to him. He was also making a noise that sounded a bit like bye bye.

Quiet in here over the weekend! Hopefully everyone was too busy having a good time.

Just procrastinating. It's day care day and I should be working. But I'm too sleepy to concentrate and feel too guilty to have a nap! Also, it's nice to have a break from T but I miss him and can't help wondering how he is and whether I should just go get him. :(

So I've been meaning to ask this one for a while now. How do the other babies in this group react to vacuum cleaners? I'd read that some babies can develop a phobia to noisy household objects. T on the other hand thinks it's great and when it's not in use likes to pull himself up on it and when it is in use, crawl after it and try to press the buttons! If only he could do the cleaning for me! :D

We had another single nap day yesterday. T would have been fine, but I was too exhausted by lunch time to take him to gymboree!

Dr T, I meant to say, yay B for figuring out he can sit himself up! I find it so interesting how babies reach their milestones in different orders - I just assumed B could sit up, since he's already walking behind a pusher and all! There was one kid at gymboree who was 8 months old and walking already, but he was still figuring out how to crawl! T was probably the first in my adopted mother's group to learn to crawl, and he could sit himself up really soon after he started commando crawling, but he couldn't sit upright, he'd slouch over, whereas the other babies could be put on their bottoms and sit up nice and straight. I wonder how much of it is the motivation to do these things and how much is purely physiological.

grrr stupid BB half the time I dont get updates from BB telling me there are new posts, really bugs me, I wasnt snobbing you all sorry I just wasnt aware there were new posts.

DH's checkup went great, everything looks great, we have to have checkups every 4 months so we have to go to melb every 4 months then it will change to 6 months then 12 then 2 years. We have a whole new lifestyle now, we have been weight training and eating soooo clean and healthy like you wouldnt believe, DH has lost 10kg I have lost 5kg but 19cm's. I have been doing a 12 week body transformation. Anyway I wont tell you anymore about that yet as I have 2 weeks to go then I will tell you how I went and maybe show you guys some photos. If you interested of course.

Em - E loves the vaccuum cleaner drives me mad as he tries to ride it when I vac lol, DD loves it too she has to have a turn first them I have a turn so cute, she falls asleep on out ride on mower and tractor and once she fell asleep in the shed on my knee when DH was griding and cutting, I would cover her ears and she was so comfy she went to sleep.

OP- You are the sweety, I can just tell you are a beautiful person and you deserve good things.

Hi to everyone else.

Dr Tal - have you been going to work much, how is B going.