Babies born~December 1st-15th 2009 #1

[Tilda]

Sorry everyone, this is going to be a completely selfish post. I feel like crap. My neck and back have been really good lately and I think I got a bit over confident and tried to breastfeed without a pillow while we were out yesterday and I've completely buggered my back. I feel like someone has stabbed me in the centre of my back around my bra line. I've got pain and tingling in my arm as well. It has been so good to feel like I'm coping and now I feel like its all going to s*&%. And Matilda won't sleep. Everytime I get her to sleep she wakes up about 10 minutes later. Which means I'm probably in for a horror evening tonight. She is just so bad at sleeping during the day unless we're in the car. And its not like she doesn't need it. She's in a horrible state by the end of the day when she cat naps like this. When my back is like this even folding up laundry is a drama. Let alone carrying a 5.5kg baby, burping her, feeding her, trying to be in a good mood for her! So I feel like a crap mother to boot. I think I'm in real danger of getting depressed. Sorry for dumping all this on you all.

[Alison1973]

Hi Tilda - you poor girl are you ok? Silly question, obviously not! Are you having any treatment for your back etc? I understand as I have a terrible neck/shoulder which was so much better after going on maternity leave and staying off the computer solidly all day but it's up crap again too from carrying Amelia and feeding etc. I don't have a proper feeding pillow so use my maternity pillow but must get one. I have such knots in my muscles at the moment every time I move my shoulder or neck I feel it pinging.....you'd know what I mean. If you really feel that down go see your doctor so you can get something to help you feel better. Amelia is catnapping as well in the day so it's hard to get anything done - she's currently asleep in her new pram and I'm not touching her!!! Fortunately though she's sleeping really well at night.....at the moment!

My whinge is that the girl from work who had her baby last weekend is irking me. I think she's going to turn the babies into a competition which I did fear. She's already bragging about how much milk she has and how she can express a full bottle in 15 minutes knowing full well I have issues and it takes me 3 days to get that much. Anyone else saying it wouldn't bother me but it does her for some reason. Also, she said that Georgia is already crawling at 1 week old so she must be an early learner - I was like, WTF!!!! I just replied and said that she might be in for an active bub then..... lol. I can't be bothered listening to this comparison thing all the time - again I have all my aqua class and mothers group friends and no-one makes me feel like that at all, just her. Even in hospital last week she was rubbing in that she got the deluxe double room, I only got the double room and also she was the 30,000th person to give birth at that hospital (we were at the same one with the same OB) so she got a massive gift basket from the hospital and her photo in the local paper. I don't care but she made a big thing about it like showing off. I probably sound jealous but I'm not, if you knew her I think you'd get what I mean. Why is it always the people who kick up a fuss and moan about life who get all the perks, sods law huh girls!

Oh and I bought the new pram yesterday, the one I wanted and I absolutely love it love it love it, it's so easy to put up and down and so nice to push and Amelia's up nice and high. I got the blue colour, it's kind of an green blue, it's gorgeous.

Anyway, hope you feel better soon Tilda and hope everyone else is having a great day. Sorry to moan and sound horrible.

[sesameseedmum]

Super quick post:

Tilda - Hang in there! You are NOT a crap mother, and being depressed is perfectly normal. Don't be afraid to talk about it, you can always call beyondblue if you're really unsure about your feelings.

Alison - Just quickly, Georgia is so not crawling, this a reflex that many newborn babies have which helps them find the breast after birth. It will disappear in a month or two.

Will post properly later, off to have a shower, it's stinking hot here!

[Tilda]

Thanks for listening girls! If my back doesn't improve and I feel like I'm getting depressed I'll definitely do something about it. I'm just hoping that it miraculously feels better tomorrow. Well I was just about to say I finally got Matilda to sleep but there she is...I don't know what's up with her today. Usually she's passed out by this time of night even on a bad day. Bye....

[BrusselsSprout]

Thanks for listening girls! If my back doesn't improve and I feel like I'm getting depressed I'll definitely do something about it. I'm just hoping that it miraculously feels better tomorrow. Well I was just about to say I finally got Matilda to sleep but there she is...I don't know what's up with her today. Usually she's passed out by this time of night even on a bad day. Bye....

Tilda, we seriously have the same baby! Eva has been really unsettled the past two days too...Just waking up every time I put her down...I know it is really "bad" but have you tried putting her to sleep on her belly? Eva totally passes out that way. And have you gotten her a dummy yet? If not, this might be a good time. It really helps them settle. I know how you feel but don't. I am physically exhausted and feel like crap, and ugly and fat and in pain and tired - you name it. You are a wonderful mother or else you would not be on here and always looking for solutions and always doing exactly what she needs, therefor feeling tired (which is normal since you are a slave to the baby, meaning a wonderful mother!) - don't beat yoruself up for all this stuff - some days are better than others and I get you. I have days (like today for that matter) where I just feel like falling apart. I can't even get to bed since I am so tired...it will poass and will get better and soon she will be calmer. You're almost at three months, Just wait a bit...See if DH can take her for two hours while you go have a hot bath and quiet time. You'd be amazed at how wonderful you will feel after a small break.

Alison, some people are just annoying. I get you. Those bragger types are always annoying and if they are stupid to boot, you just don't get how they get so lucky!

Beany, great to hear from you! Enjoy your mum! It is so great to have family around and yay for Micahel being such a wonderful boy...What a nice schedule I love mornings, Eva talks and coos and giggle for a good half hour during her morning change, and washup...They are getting so much more beautiful every day, aren't they? Eva was doing really well for about a week and has been gassy and crying the past two days. i hope it passes...I need the rest! I don't get excited for any changes since I am not sure how long they will stay

I need to consider the 9:30 bedtime...it might help me feel better but I can't seem to get to bved once she's down since I want to get things done...but I am wearing myself a bit thin...and not getting thinner...lol

[RF&C]

Hi there - hope you don't mind if I crash into this thread?

My name is Rachel. I have two babes - a 15mth old boy and my 2mth old baby girl - Charlotte who was born 3 Dec 09 via c-section.

I haven't read through all the pages of this thread yet......but will do soon so I can try and catch up - hope you don't mind.

Rachel.

[Alison1973]

Hi Rachel - welcome to our thread, everyone here is fantastic, we're all great friends even though we haven't met lol! Congrats on the birth of your little girl, what are your kiddies names? I am interested to hear your story as we just had our first baby - Amelia on the 30th November by emergency c-section and will probably try and fall pregnant again in 12 months or a little less depending on how I feel! I'm 37 this year so don't want to wait too long. Is it hard with the age difference?.....the OB says I can start trying when Amelia is 8 months but we haven't decided yet, seems a bit scary atm! We too found out at my check up the other day that the infection I had picked up while in labour was a rare and deadly staph infection of the amniotic fluid so it's extremely lucky Amelia didn't die, so given that we just want to enjoy her for a while. I hated having a c-section as it wasn't expected but am fine with it now, especially given that information, it saved her life, thank goodness for my wonderful OB! Will probably have to have another next time though unfortunately. Such is life! I am enjoying being a mum so much, even the difficult days although I do feel blessed to have a very good baby, she's sleeping 9 hours at night at the moment since I put her in her cot a week ago, I think she loves the space. The only issue I'm having currently is my milk supply so she's being BF'd and then FF'd with a bottle each feed, I feel bad but what can I do, she has to eat, need to get over feeling guilty about that.

Anyway, that's my story very quickly, look forward to chatting with you some more!

Hi BS - I hear you on the weight thing, I feel so gross, I need to lose 6 kgs and tone up, badly - I can't wear any of my pre pregnancy clothes unless they're dresses, so depressing!

I did get my new pram though and I love it so am determined to start walking everyday now and shift some of this flab!

Hope everyone one else is well. I need to do some housework now, yuk!

[Plinky]

Oh hello girlies! I'm so sorry I haven't been on in yonks. My mum is here you see, so been having a great time with her.

Just thought I'd pop in to write a quick note.

Tilda - would be great to catch up with you and the other Perth girls while you are over! Sorry to hear you are having a rough time. I know its easier said than done...but you really must believe that it WILL get better. Because it will. Its probably just a phase Matilda is going through. As for your back, can you go to a chiro or something?

Alison - I got my period too...same day as you only during the night! Fancy that! It's been a fairly light one really...I was expecting a heavy downpour for some reason... Your new pram sounds lovely! I'm pretty happy with mine so far..only thing is getting it in and out of the boot is damaging it A cap has already come off and I can see marks and stuff on it. Grrr! We were going to get a bigger car, but decided against it...we don't want to stretch ourselves too far financially while I'm not at work. And what a load of rubbish about that girl from work's baby crawling at 1 week! I very much doubt a 1 week old will have enough muscle development and strength to put one arm out to support itself, never mind coordinate all 4 limbs at once! Pfft, she's in la-la land!

Rose- you've been putting up some great pics and movies on fb...he's so CUTE!! I love it when they try to talk...Michael is starting to make different noises now too.

BS - how is Eva today? Any better?

Suz - Congrats on the DTD! I haven't been brave enough yet...esp with my mum sleeping here too! My poor DH! I've just started back on the pill, the full pill as I'm not BF anymore ( )

Carmey - sorry to hear about those dodgy calls...are you still getting them? I'd report it to the police perhaps? Must be v scary.

Hello to everyone I have missed!!!

AFM - been spending heaps of time with my mum, as I mentioned. Michael is going well...has bath at 5.30pm, feeds at 6pm, bed at 7pm, feeds some time between 3-5am, bed again then up at around 8am, feeds 9am, then 1.30pm, then 6pm....etc, etc. He seems to have got himself pretty much into that routine, I've only had to tweak it here and there. Drinking between 240-300ml a feed (formula fed, remember). Sleeping during the day is another issue entirely...he rarely sleeps longer than 40 mins or so, prolly about 3 or 4 times during the day. The rest of the day he's awake... Its very tiring trying to keep them occupied, isn't it!!

Someone metioned about the grunting...thank goodness Michael isn't the only one!!! Lordy he makes a racket when he sleeps. He will sleep like a log till about 1.30am, then he tosses and turns, grunts ALOT, farts like I don't know what, sometimes makes these cute little sighing noises. I'm hanging out till we move him into his own room, which I think I will do fairly soon...just got to get some block-out curtains and then we will. I'm reading Sleep Sense which says that babies get a memory of where they sleep when they're about 4 months old so if you are going to move them into their own room then try to do it before then (or something like that). Hopefully it works!

Does everyone have that wonderful moment when their babies wake in the morning and they see you and give you the biggest smile? Oh thats my favourite thing ever, I love it!

MIL still in hospital, has an infection at the mo, but the docs have put her on antibiotics so hopefully they do the trick. Sesame - how is your dad?

Okies girls...as much as I don't want to I must sign off now. I've only got 1 hour till my new bedtime (9pm - so sick of going to bed early tho...I wanna stay up with my mummy, or watch a movie with DH...but the sleep calls me...)

PS - Michael's Christening tomorrow!!! Eeeek! 60 ppl invited...I hope we have enough food!!!

[Alison1973]

Hi Tilda - you're welcome, anytime! Definitely would love to catch up when you come to Perth.

Hi Beany - so lovely to hear from you! That's great you're having fun with your mummy, when does she go back? OMG we do everything the same lol....my period was super light too, only last a couple of days and was nothing that I expected, turned into more of a pale coloured bloody discharge (sorry TMI) yours too? Weird! Michael sounds like he's doing so well, go the formula huh, I think that's what helps Amelia sleep so long at night too and stay in a routine. It's great to talk to someone else who FF's. I still give Amelia a boob before a bottle but I don't know how much she gets, she's only on for 5 mins each side . You've made me wonder though as I'm only giving her 125mls of formula, should I be giving her more? Unless the boob is giving more than I think?! Can't wait to catch up with you and Tilda soon. Get back on soon, we miss you! And don't worry, 9.30 pm is my bed time too, ha ha! Oh and have fun at the christening tomorrow, I must organise Amelia's....DH isn't so keen but mum keeps asking and I'd like to! Let us know how it goes. And yes, the smiles are the greatest, melts your heart huh! xx