Beany, we posted at the same time! I am glad the christening went so well!!!Eva also hates being passed around - she is a mommy's girl for now! I'll enjoy it while I can! Put up some pics if you have any!
Sesame - I'm so sorry to hear about your Dad That's great that he was around long enough to meet Liam. Liam is a good boy for sleeping so long for you.
Carmey - I loved your birth story! I only got to read it last night. Thanks for the reminder to drink more water, I keep forgetting and I think it does affect my supply. Congrats on Jack's sleep, that's great!
Beany - The Christening sounds like it went well. I inherited the Christening gown that my Grandma Christened my Dad and Uncles in, but we aren't religious so I won't get to use it. However, I bet your Mum was proud to see Michael in your gown, that would have been really special. My family are from the Lakes District too, from Buxton. I've never been there but my Dad and Grandma both told me how beautiful it is. Don't worry, you will get to wear the new clothes as your baby weight starts to drop off.
Lani - I know what you mean! It's incredible how much time babies take! There were days with Craig where I didn't get to shower or eat because if I put him down he would start crying. Not to mention all the extra washing and cleaning that babies generate. You are doing well to post considering that you've had a windy baby to deal with. I'm so glad you've got Jett's tummy troubles sorted now.
Brussels - Me too! I'd love to visit! I think the ab exercises you're doing are what we call 'isometric' exercises, like the plank or where you do half a sit up and hold it. My GP said I still have at least a finger-width gap in my abs so I can't start crunches yet. I've been doing isometric exercises and yoga poses since seeing her which will hopefully close it up. Sounds like your personal trainer is pretty good! Stick with it, I'm sure you'll see results soon. But we do all seem to lose the baby weight differently. I lost weight over Christmas without dieting or exercise, but the other new Mum in my Mum's Group (her bub is 5 months old) said today that she's only lost her baby's weight and hasn't lost the rest (and she was much trimmer and fitter than me).
AFM - Ryan seems to have settled again and both boys were really good today. It looks like it was just the immunisations that initially upset Ryan. But it does appear that when one boy is upset that it upsets the other one, so when Craig was tired and having tantrums yesterday it upset Ryan. It's a vicious cycle that I didn't have with only one kid. DH got back today after spending an extra night away (he was too tired to drive home and decided to play it safe). Morning Tea with our Mother's Group was great and we're getting together again at a different girl's house on Friday.
Alison - Try not to let the girl from work irritate you. Everyone is different, there's no rules, and if you try to compare you'll always find something that makes you question your intuition as a mother. Know that you're doing your best, and she's doing hers, and try to keep your distance if you can.
I'm sorry to hear about your milk supply. Maybe Rose's engorging lactation tea might help?
Hannah - I was just thinking about you too! It's great to have you back.
Hi everyone else! Sorry if I've missed a few posts, it seems that our babies are giving us more time on the computer these days.
AFM - Having a lovely day with the boy. He's been smiley and playing all morning, now sleeping, and hopefully will wake up for a feed soon. Have any of the exclusively BF'd bubs out there gone a long stretch without pooing? I read that it's normal for babies to go up to two weeks. Lord help you dealing with the first one after two weeks! Liam does at LEAST 4 a day, and they're beauties! This may be way TMI but it actually makes a Mum kinda proud. Ha ha!
sesame - Liam's gone for 3 days at the most without a poo, I think. And then what a poo it was! I don't worry about it, though, so long as he's breastfed, since it's pretty much impossible for bfed babies to get constipated.
Alison - Glad that you like your new pram! Gosh, you went out for a walk yesterday in the humidity? I went out for about ten minutes and about died from it! Was planning on going out today, but the humidity is worse. Bleh. And just ignore that girl. I *hate* the way some people need to compete. For the record, the ABA recommend what you said - until the baby regains his or her birth weight, they're not supposed to go more than 4 hours between feeds.
Hannah - Glad you've sorted the wind problem Do you have her crib/bassinet up on an angle as well? We've found that this really helps Liam.
suz - Yep, it's the oats that work as a galactologue - as does the brewer's yeast. I know a few people who take brewer's yeast capsules to keep their supply up, too.
AFM - Liam's being a booby monster atm - yesterday evening he was cluster feeding for the first time in a while, and then he did the same this morning. He's been chucking a lot, too, so I think he's having issues with figuring out how much he really needs to eat. It doesn't bother me so long as he doesn't complain, though it's kind of icky smelling like milk all the time
Hi Sesame - 4 poos a day far out!!!! Amelia poos pretty much every day, she can go a day without it but she is on formula as well so that's probably why. Even the first few weeks of exclusive BF'ing she only poo'd once or twice a day. Sounds like you have a pooing machine on your hands, typical boy......he'll be reading the paper while he does it soon.
Hi Rose - I guess that's why they say beer helps too, pity I don't drink beer ha ha. And I'm glad you said that about the ABA, as if a nurse would tell her 6.5 hours between feeds is fine for a 1 week old baby. Oh well, I was trying to help but she doesn't want to know so she can find out for herself. I've decided to ignore it, each to their own as they say! Yeah it was icky walking yesterday, I got so sticky and sweaty. I thought it was cooler today as it's overcast but I haven't been out yet so will find out shortly, I hate it when it's humid!
Well I thought I was going to have my all nighter ruined last night, fed Amelia and put her to bed at 9.00 pm but she woke up at 3.30 am.....I went into her room thinking I'd have to feed her but her eyes were still closed so I just popped her dummy in her mouth, put on her music and she went straight back to sleep until 7.00 am. Now all I need is to stop waking up myself, I'm so used to it now I can't not!!!! Amelia has the cutest denim dungarees on today from Pumpkin Patch, got them in the sale, they only had Newborn size left so she'll only probably get a couple of wears out of them. Oh and someone told me yesterday when your baby has lots of bubbles or foaming at the mouth that's a sign of wind, is that true? Amelia has just started bubbling at the mouth the last week but she doesn't seem bothered.
Best go get dressed, it's 10.30 am and I'm still in my jammies ha ha!
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Alison - Just quickly, I read that the drooling and bubble blowing is the start of the "everything in the mouth" phase. Liam's become a dribble-guts too, it's totally normal.
On the drooling...Michael started drooling heaps maybe a couple of weeks ago, and bubbling at the mouth too. I'm glad to hear its normal! He's also taken to ramming his fists in his mouth and chewing on his thumb...can't be teething yet, can it?? Anyone else getting that?
Another question - some times (he hasn't done it for a few weeks, but did it today a couple of times) when he's asleep he can start an almighty cry...a really loud one. Just completely out of the blue, sometimes it wakes him up, other times he goes back to sleep (tho not for long). .... (can you believe he did it right now?? What are the odds!!!!). He's mega unsettled today and cranky...I'm really not sure whats wrong with him He was a complete angel yesterday, smiling, giggling, awake...just lovely.
Alison - I think our bubs are poo-twins! Mine is usually once a day but can go a day without as well. Must be the formula. Which formula are you using btw?
Ok, that will have to do for now...sorry girls...he's just really unsettle atm. So hard in this sticky weather...having to hold him and pick him up is uncomfortable for both of us I think.
Beany - Liam is sucking his fists too. Apparently they can stick them so far into their mouth they gag! Totally normal too.
So cute that Michael's giggling! You'll have to try and catch it on video and post on fb for us.
Rose - I find Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon chills Liam out nicely. Courtesy of his hippy Pa. Thanks for the Catch of the Day tip, I can't wait to get my box in the post!
BS - Awesome about Eva's sleeping! Shame about the snow, it must be annoying being stuck at home.
Hannah - The Metallic lullabies cd sounds awesome! It sounds like you've got a lot on your plate at the moment, and worrying about your Mum sure wouldn't help. Rest assured you're an amazing Mum! You wouldn't be so worried about Amelia's wellbeing if you weren't. I hope your Mum gets well soon, I'm sending you and her lots of positive vibes.
On the dummy issue, I think it's really just whatever your baby seems to like. I read that the orthodontic ones really aren't any better or worse, it's just another marketing thing to make us think they're more "natural" and somehow more beneficial than the old style ones. Try them both and see what Amelia prefers. Liam's not fussy, as long as something's in his mouth, though he seems less reliant on his dummy now that he's discovered his hands.
And Alison's right, there's no evidence to show that dummy use in small babies causes dental problems.
Alison - I hope the fenugreek keeps working for you!
AFM - I kind of got my period back, I've had some spotting over the last few days. I was hoping for a bit longer as I'm exclusively BFing, but oh well, can't win em all.
Liam's a bit scatty today, it's so hot! Better go and tend to him.
Sesame - Bad luck about your period returning (or old Aunt Flow, as they say in the TTC forums ) It's a real lottery that one. Ryan sucks his fingers and had them so far in to his mouth the the other day that he started gagging.
Alison - That's great that you expressed 60mls! You might even be able to build your supply back up that way. There's another growth spurt at around 12 weeks, so Amelia might be growing again.
Beany - That's gorgeous! I bet the giggles made your day Hope Michael's needles go well today and that he has a good sleep tonight.
Hannah - You're a fabulous Mum! Amelia is really lucky to have you as her Mummy. You're doing so well to cope with your Mum's illness and a new baby. We all have those moments where we think we shouldn't have had our babies. I have days where I wonder why I had a 2nd baby when I can't cope with my toddler! Then I have other days where I'm planning my 3rd You're doing really well learning what your baby needs. Even if you were able to know before she was born that she would have reflux, you still couldn't have worked what would work best for her until she was here. You're doing fine and it will get easier.
AFM - Met up with some of the other Mum's from my Mother's Group today (those that are either on Mat Leave or don't work Fridays). A few of them share a Personal Trainer and I think I'm going to jump on board too. It only costs $5 a session, plus I'll get to see the other Mum's.
I bought the Lascal Maxiboard for my pram today. Craig likes it, but still wants to run off when we're shopping. I think it will be great for when we walk to the park. He's already 15kg which rules out most of the toddler pram options and a tandem pram will only suit us for 12 months, so I'm going to stick with the skateboard for now.
Sounds like I have 2 nappies to change! Better go.
Hi to anyone else who might be reading but has no time to post.
Hello everybody,
I have not been here for a while but things have been a little crazy here....
I have been reading all the posts on my night feedings on my iPod so I kind of know what's going on but please excuse me for the lack of personal responses.
My dd1... Lila has been having a rough time, major jelousy and it's been really hard.
I also need to tell everyone ( for myself too ) that I have been suffering from post natal depression. It's a very long story yet hard to talk about but I think I am now strong enough to really realize it. So Hannah huge hugs babe...
I'd love to spend ages talking about stuff... In fact every time I have a sec I'd love to write a few paragraphs but it takes so long especially now with two kiddies, the only time alone I have is the miday sleep or late evening when I'm asleep!!
You guys are awesome and all doing so well.
Lots ov love
kath
Hey everyone! Want to try and bang out a post super fast while DH is circling the garden
Hi Kanda - so sorry to hear about your PND. Babies and toddlers have to be one of the hardest gigs out and you've got one of each! But try to remember what an amazing job you're doing. I'm glad you've been able to log in a bit even just to read what's going on with everyone else. We'll be thinking of you even if you don't have time to post.
Hi Hannah - try not to be so hard on yourself. I know its hard (I'm guilty of it too) but you're doing a stellar job to look after a bub while having so much else to deal with.
I think I'm going to run out of time to reply to everyone so I might make a few random comments. On dummies, DH asked a friend of his who is a specialist children's dentist and he said dummies are absolutely fine and have no orthodontic repercussions. Oh dear hear a hysterical baby coming my way....bye....
Hi Girls - buggar, I didn't see Rose's note about Catch of the Day, didn't even know what is was until I just went on. Bummmmmmmmmmmmer!
Hi Kanda - I'm so sorry to hear about your PND but I'm glad you're talking about it. My very good friend suffered from it and didn't want to acknowledge it at first, I didn't even know to be honest but once she realised she got some medication and was so much better. She got over it really quickly and is happy as larry now, her bub is 9 months old. Just remember we're all here for you mate, hugs and kisses to you.
Hi Sesame - I think I'm ovulating, got the old ovulation pains which I forgot what they felt like lol......
Hi Tilda - DH circling the garden ha ha that's funny.
Hi Suz - thanks, I think the fenugreek is working and also taking time out to express more, it's quite exciting really. And boo I missed Catch of the Day too, spewing!
Hi Hannah - hows things today?
Hi everyone else, hope you're all doing well today. Amelia has been ok, still a bit grizzly when hungry and tired but is not too bad, slept for 3 hours this morning though and has been quite sleepy in between feeds, I hope she sleeps ok tonight!!! I want the 10 hours back. Just watching the story of the lady who died after having a baby a couple of years ago from not being treated for a bacterial infection from childbirth.....gosh that could've been me, thank god I had a good OB!!!!!
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kanda - As another PND sufferer, I think the most important thing to do is just acknowledge it. Once I started talking about it to family and my doctor (and chose to go onto medication, but that's a personal choice) things got a lot better.
Hi to everyone else!
AFM - I think we're in growth spurt territory again. Liam's been eating and eating and eating - long feeds, too, which is quite unusual for him. I weighed him today and he's 5.8kg. Going to be interesting to see what he weighs in a few weeks!
Hannah, for the dummies, the soteo and pediatricians both said to just get the cheap chemists dummies that are cherry shaped. He explained that all those orthodontic dummies are just ridiculous and that there is no problem if they use one this young. He excplained that babies prefer the cherry or what resembles most the nipple...Another good thing about the dummy that the oste told me is that he said that if your baby has reflux, it helps in producing more saliva which combats the acid coming up. So he highly recommended I use one with Eva for her reflux. I think if she likes it you should do it...He said that ruining their teeth is a ridiculous rumour etc...unless they are 5 and still using it! I am glad she had a good sleep. I hope you have many more to come
Beany, Eva giggles so much too and she squeals like alittle pig - it is the cutest thing! Sometimes she'll be in her bed with her mobile and just squealing from delight and then she has this one doll in her bed that she has full discussions with - it is hilarious - good luck for the needles...We go in next week!
Sesame, I agree totally about the dummy thing - I tried a bunch and finally found one she liked and kept it - she just graduated to the 3-6 month size! And I also found that she is a LOT less relaint on her dummy since she started sucking her hands. She'll just sit there happily shoving her fists in her mouth and drooling all over herself now
Alsion, YAY on the fenugreek! Keep it up girl! It would be funny if you got your supply up so high that you went from formula to breast and not the other way around!
Suz, good idea on sharing a trainer - and workin gout in a group is a great way to stay motivated!
Hey Kanda, nice to hear from you. I am so sorry you are having a hard time. Poor Lila, it must be so hard for you to deal with jealousy from a toddler. I am glad you're keeping up with us and I am thinking of you. I hope you are ok with the depression. Are you seeking help? exercise? I am starting to feel like I might be going down that road too...I don't know. Anyway, sending you huge kisses and hugs. Good luck with the two girls and I hope DH helps you out so you can get some rest sometimes.
Tilda, thanks for confirming the dummy thing - I was worried about using it at the beginning too but I cannot deprive Eva. She loves it waaaaay too much. I told DH, if it messes up her teeth, we better have enough money for braces (andyway she is genetically inclined to have crooked teeth - DH and I both had orthodontic work on our mouths!).
Anyway, I am starting to feel really down...Eva is sleeping better, skipping her midnight feed for a few nights now...still waking up at 3 though but at least we get some relax time for dinner. I have been really not feeling like myself. I just want to sleep all the time and not see people...I just don't know how to snap out of it and am stuck in the house due to all this bad weather so that is not helping. I am toying with the idea of asking DH to go away for a weekend or 5 days to the sun. I have also been seriously neglecting him but he is being understanding and not mad at me...I just don't want to deal with people...I was used to being very thin and active and well dressed and now I am pudgy and can't get a shower in most days. I am so happy when I am with the baby though so I would not change it for anything, but I feel like I don't exist anymore...This too shall pass...right?
BS - Thanks so much. Der of course spicy and acidic foods will burn more, I don't know why I didn't think of that before. Probably because my diet has pretty much been cereal, pasta, fruit and veggies, so there hasn't been anything obvious to try eliminating. I might try cutting out the lactose. Its going to be hard though because I've actually been craving dairy foods since Amelia was born. I've been getting stricter with our bedtime routine. At 6 she has a bath, massage, story, feed and then bed. Wrapping her seems to have made all the difference too.
beany - Amelia spits hers out when she's asleep and I haven't been putting it back in either. But she gives me such a funny look when I give it to her...as if to say, "what's this? This doesn't taste like you mummy." How exciting that Michael is giggling already! I can't wait for that. I hope he wasn't too upset by his needles today.
Alison - I initially didn't think there was anything wrong with the cherry ones, but my mum, who is a pharmacy assistant, suggested the orthodontic ones. Maybe they only have issues with their palate if they are used all the time. I only intend to use it when its time to sleep, so I guess it shouldn't matter.
sesame - The CD is done by a company called rockabye baby. I checked out their website and they do a pink floyd one as well. Just in case your interested. That sucks that AF returned.
suz - That's a great idea sharing a personal trainer...it'll keep you active and social all at once (as if Craig isn't keeping you active enough lol).
kanda - Huge hugs back at ya . I was wondering how you were going today. I'm sorry you're having a hard time with PND. But at least you've recognised it and can get the help you need. We're here for you sweetie. As the girls have been telling me it WILL get easier.
Thanks everyone for your support. I got a bit overexcited last night. Amelia was feeding every 2 hours from 1 until 7 am. By the time I got her down after each feed, I'd get about 10-15 minutes of sleep and then we'd start all over again. I had to wake DH at 7:30 to take over as I was about to collapse (I still have my headache complete with dizzy spells). He woke me to feed her at 9:30. She's been asleep all day waking at 2:30 and 6pm for feeds. So our days and nights are mixed up again. I wonder if she's having another growth spurt. But I am pleased that she is sleeping in her bassinette again as that was worrying me. See, I'm focusing on the positive.....
Hi Hannah - my Amelia is a little all over the place today and yesterday too, not really bad but definitely not her usual routine, I read my book and she's definitely showing signs of a growth spurt which can happen around the 12 week mark give or take a week or two. So I think that's what's happening with us for sure, maybe our girls are doing everything the same ha ha! I guess all we can do is go with the flow huh.
I forgot to mention earlier that at my sister's today we did Amelia's feet and hand prints onto both her birth certificate and also onto paper for her baby album, was funny doing it but she has a little blank leftover ink on her feet, it's non toxic but I'll still give her a nice bath. They came out so cute though. Oh and I emailed the midwife today to find out the exact name of the staph infection I had in hossy cause I couldn't remember what the OB said and it was golden staph, pretty scary huh!
Well finally got Matilda to settle for the night (I think).
Hannah - what a nightmare night!! I throw Matilda at DH in the early mornings sometimes too. I don't even feel guilty about it anymore. I figure if we're up half the night, they can deal with an hour or so in the mornings.
BS - you poor thing. It might help to find someone to talk to about how you're feeling. It's helped me at times. I know exactly how hard it is to lose that sense of autonomy and being active so I think I know how you're feeling. When I first injured my neck very badly just as we moved to the US for a year I went through a very bad time dealing with not being able to carry groceries or get to the laundromat, or play sport. But these things always improve. And it most definitely will for you. You're strong, young and healthy and winter will soon be over. Be kind to yourself.
Hi Alison - scary about the infection! You should buy a lotto ticket having been so lucky.
AFM - well the 5-9 marathon is over for another night. Matilda is sooooo unsettled at this time of day. The only thing that varies is how bad it is! I'm finding it really difficult to "walk" the halls with her since aggravating my back last week. The dummy helped to just keep her calm for a couple of nights this week, but last night she wouldn't take it. At least we're getting her to sleep better during the day. I'm a bit nervous about how its all going to go back in Perth for 12 days. I'm not sure if Mum and Dad will cope. I'll have to disappear upstairs each night. Is it true they become a bit more settled after 3 months? Please tell me it is! Anyway, I should try and get to bed.
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That's great that he was around long enough to meet Liam. Liam is a good boy for sleeping so long for you.
Lord help you dealing with the first one after two weeks! Liam does at LEAST 4 a day, and they're beauties! This may be way TMI but it actually makes a Mum kinda proud. Ha ha!
Do you have her crib/bassinet up on an angle as well? We've found that this really helps Liam.
He was a complete angel yesterday, smiling, giggling, awake...just lovely.
of course spicy and acidic foods will burn more, I don't know why I didn't think of that before. Probably because my diet has pretty much been cereal, pasta, fruit and veggies, so there hasn't been anything obvious to try eliminating. I might try cutting out the lactose. Its going to be hard though because I've actually been craving dairy foods since Amelia was born. I've been getting stricter with our bedtime routine. At 6 she has a bath, massage, story, feed and then bed. Wrapping her seems to have made all the difference too.
I figure if we're up half the night, they can deal with an hour or so in the mornings.
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