Babies born~March 1st-15th 2008 #10

I guess in the end we all have to try different things and find what works for us and our child. Each parent and child is different.

Hi all. I'm home. So tired. Jaz isn't great, but she's alright. I did update the thread.

Prama - Jesse's a biter. I hate it too. He's done it more than once though. Its just whats happening here atm. He's sick of the girls taking things off him all the time & that gets their reaction best. He does it to my friends DS coz he taught Jesse how & they spend too much time together & are always fighting over toys...they bite each other. We can't leave them alone for 5 minutes.

I have to come back & read through properly, but I just want to say, in regards to discipline, I've never been able to shut the door on them. Not when they are sleeping, or in trouble. With Jaz I occasionally will. Bri I have once or twice, but never shut properly & she freaks out at the idea of it. I'm just not comfortable with it. Never have been, & really think at 20 months they are way too young for that kind of discipline. Each to their own though.

Anyway. I'm really really tired, so night all xx

humm its such a hard one isnt it. Thanks for the articles Prama, they were really good.

I find the balance of gentle parenting and not raising a child that gets their own way to be difficult. I dont set unreasonable barriers and only really have a problem with behaviour that is nasty or hurtful. Really she is neither at the moment, but i worry that this smacking may get out of control if i dont teach her that its unacceptable.

I actually dont like the idea of 'time out' in her room at all as i NEVER want her to see her room as being a place of punishment, its for sleeping and play and getting dressed and i dont want her to associate it with being in trouble.

Prama to answer the question, yes initially i shut the door, but it was too much for her, so i stopped doing that and she walked out. I dont know how time out will work really... i think i agree Prama - she is still too young... Bron, Skye and Trina - other advice (as you have done this more than once ;) )

sj - i know.. how do you draw the line.. it;s very hard.
you need to be gentle but let them know you mean business and they cant get away with some things. and instil discipline, but not being too harsh, and then whatever you do, they dont bother anymore.
i;ve seen with my cousins, when their dad used to cane them, so much so that caning no longer scared them.

yes, bron, skye, trina maybe you can impart your wisdom ...

yeah def a no smacking family here... i am sure that it has its place, but am a beliver that like breads like... iykwim

yeah dh and i were both smacked.
i didnt think it was necessary and my parents could have used more reason, and sat down and had a chat with me. then again, my parents never really sat down with us to talk about any issue. never sat down and had a chat abt AF, boys, school -bullying, peer pressure. etc. some how in retrospect, it always seemed whatever happened was my problem even if other people started it.
no wonder i never chat about what goes on in my life w them, my problems etc.
then again my parents were too busy arguing and my mum always telling us her problems etc.
what a sad teenage life i had :(
anyway, that's off the topic.
i just hope Poopy will feel he can come talk to us about his day to day stuff, his problems etc. and he knows were are there for him..

I smack. Not too often, but I do. Sometimes its just purely out of frustration, other times its coz someone is doing something that could harm them & finds me saying no amusing :rolleyes:
eg, Jesse at a power point. No is funny. Distraction gets a 'stuff you, this is what I want to do, so I'll do it' reaction. I try saying it hurts or something. In the end I'll usually smack to show that it can hurt iykwim.

Usually though, I'll take him away. Hold onto him, even though he's throwing himself & fighting & pinching & trying to bite me, til he gets over it.

Honestly...I'm trying desperately to use as little violence/smacking etc as possible with Jesse. He's already showing a violent side. Getting the ****s & lashing out in any way he can. I'm doing all I can to try to stop it. I've tried doing it back, showing him it hurts. I've tried ignoring, but when he's hurting its too hard.
The best thing so far is holding his hand if he's hitting, or foot if he's kicking & holding it still so he can't move it for a few seconds, then let go. If he does it again, I do it again. I don't say anything. Not even no, coz thats a reaction. Thats what he wants. I don't walk away, or leave him or anything. If he wants a cuddle he'll get it, then I'll say to him, you can't hurt mummy. That hurts. I'll get him to kiss me better too.
Its really hard & confusing lol. I like that Jaz can be grounded now!

thanks skye..
it must be hard for you managing 3 young kids, mostly by yourself.
I found getting really impatient w Poopy being indoors with him all day, apart from being at the hospital in the morning cos of the blood and mucous in his ear. both of us being sick and tired, didnt help.
it's so confusing, what's the best way to discipline and when you do what.. and when you change your tactics. and i suppose it gets harder as they get older and realise what buttons to push.
so hard and confusing...

Hey, Jesse's using wee against me atm! He has a lot more control over that bladder than he wants you to know!
I wasn't sure at first, but tonight he proved it! He only seemed to wee on the floor, or something if he had the ****s with me, but I kept telling myself it was coincidence...til tonight. I wouldn't get out of bed (was trying to get him to bed) so he looked at the floor, looked at me, got in the wee possy, stuck his doody out & started weeing on my bedroom floor! When I said NO he giggled & pushed harder to get as much as he could out before I could grab him & chuck him in the ensuite shower! Little turd!

Well all 3 are sick tonight. Great. Jaz & Jesse aren't too bad. They have parvo virus/slap cheek/hand foot & mouth. Which ever. Just the rash for them. Slight fevers for Jess.
But Bri...Poor baby Bri :( Tonsillitis again. Sore throat this arv. Temp 37.8. Gave nurofen & she came good. Fell asleep on the lounge early, & I went to put her to bed & she was burning. 38.7, just after a bath. Will have to ring my gp 1st thing in the morn again & try get her straight in. Need abs before she stops swallowing. Need it to stop hurting before she gets dehydrsted again. I'm not watching her go through that hell again :( Poor bubba.

I'm so dead tired. Eyes are burning. Night all xx

ooh darling, so hard with 3 littles ones, esp when they are sick....
hope bri cools down soon... poor darling

how jaz's infection?

and jesse - sigh, what is it, with men and their aiming.. just do it in the loo!

I think Jaz's infection is pretty much cleared up. She seems pretty good atm.

Boys, lol...

I use distraction with Summer it works most of the time I have given her a few little taps on the hand tho, she lashes out at the girls a fair bit and has caused a few bad scratches so i try to show her that it hurts, she has bitten me a few times and she wasn't trying to hurt me i don't think but i lightly bit her to show her what it feels like.

Each to their own have to find what works for you and then after a while that won't work anymore and you will have to try something else and this goes on and on and on lol. With my older girls they get things taken off them or can't go on the computer or watch tv etc they are very good girls most of the time and i rarely have to punish them, I reward their good behaviour which makes them want to do good things all the time I even do this with Summer but it is not as easy as they don't understand the concept as much.

Well im much better this week I haven't been the best been up and down for so long hoping the good feeling stays a bit longer, i tell you its really really hard being a single mum and watching your ex having the time of his life and finally being the father I always wanted him to be and his family are treating me like i have some disease his sister changed her profile pic on fb to her and ex's gf hugging all dressed up at the races we were good friends and i used to speak to her all the time and now SMACK. Anyway just another thing that is making me stronger and I'm working hard to make myself better. Thanks all xoxo

SJ I'm so proud of you hun you are such an inspiration and such a strong woman good on you for being so positive through such a tough time xoxo

Ah Skye hang in there and hope the fevers bugger off soon I haven't read the thread on Bri did she have an infection? I'll go check it out now. Hope you get some sleep soon and everybody is running around driving you nuts again haha

Hope everybody else is good

And my pool is nearly swimmable YAY YAY YAY YAY I haven't had a pool since i lived at home with my Dad... The girls are going to have a great summer so excited.. And i've been on a mission getting my house organised now that my knee is stronger moving furniture etc. Also hope to be working in a few weeks been offered a job in a day spa and also going to study next year to be a personal trainer wow so much going on :)

oh trina.. that really sux. you have been doing so well with all your girls and they will love you for that for always.

and yes, it really sux w ex's family. who knows what he's told them. but then they should know how he's treated you and the affair. and if that woman has had an affair w a married man, whats stopping her fr doing it agian or him for that matter.

and so good to hear abt you becoming a personal trainer! you'd be so good at that!
ahhh and day spa... i wish i could go for one of those.............

Thanks Prama xo yes i would love to go to a day spa and not be the one giving haha ive never been to one as a client. I really need to make some money sick of barely scraping by would love to be able to buy myself some clothes or save for a holiday.

Summer is sleeping in Paige's bed tonight now that I'm mobile and settled going to make the transition to big bed she might be sharing with Tahnie because Paige has asked if she can have her own room, they have shared for a long time.

Oh and she did a poo on the potty today was so funny she got a big shock and then wouldn't go anywhere near it haha she was freaked out not sure why she has poo'd on the floor heaps of times hahahaha she still hasn't done a wee in it she has only just started recognising that she is about to do one

Lol, Trina, Jesse asks to have his 'nap' back on for poo. Potty just doesn't seem right to him & the toilet is too scary. He's poo'd on the floor heaps too, but God forbid it touches him!! The few times he's got a bit on his foot he stands there screaming for me to gt him. He doesn't move! pmsl!

What I would give to go to a hair dresser, or have my nails done. I've never had my nails done, let alone a spa treatment! Last time I went to a hair dresser was... umm... hmmm...when Bri was a baby maybe?? I used to get my sister to do it, since she was going to be a hair dresser at one stage, but now she's moved away... lol, I'm so sad!

hey guys, its quiet in here again isnt it.

All good with us, MJ was sick over the weekend, temps of 39.8C which was a bit scary, but she was asymptomatic, so i figured that it was teething. dosed her put with panadol etc and gave her more cuddles if she needed them.

Well its been 2 days of no nappies and no wet knickers which is really exciting. She is wearing nappies to bed, but the day time one she often wakes with it dry.
i have been taking her into the toilet with me and she has sat on the potty - she has reverted back to prefering that. Its been exciting - i just think about all the nappies i wont have to wash!!!

Loads of tantys here, its been trying but i guess it is a stage and we are just trying to find the best way of working through them... poor little chicken really gets into a state if she wants her own way... finding a happy medium, letting her do things more if is is not really a problem, but then being really firm if i say no - no giving in, i think that i need to give really clear messages to her.

Stringing 2-3 words together now which is nice, it means that i can understand her a bit more and hopefully will assist with her frustration.

Hope you are all well.
xo

SJ Jesse's not doing too bad overnight too. I put him to bed between 8 & 9 when he goes & don't put a nappy on til I go to bed sometimes 3 hours later. We had a night when he woke at 6 wanting it off & he slept til after 8 without it. Without wetting the bed.
I just put shorts on him to go to a friends place & he didn't go for ages, then I made him go coz it had been hours, & half hour later he tried to get his shorts off again so he could go again! He did good...I feel for her pot plant he kept going on though, lmao!

He's a little turd. He has a thing for pinching :rolleyes: He just did it to Bri & she had a winge at me. When I turned around he went oh oh oh & patted her on the head & gave her a cuddle! Must've known he'd get in trouble, lol.

He's saying more. putting 2 words together somethimes. Motor bike, pop & nan, ice block (iy pop, lol) some things. Mostly only one word, but he's getting pretty clear.
Says bed when he wants booboo in bed. Heaps of words, way to many to list. Started saying names now. Jaz, Brees, Levi is Vi, all the families names. He'll try saying anything. Ice is nice, lol. Can now tell me coke & smoke...great!

Geez... I put my last AF in here November 7, Its back already again on November 30. 23 days apart...WTF? Not liking that. I've never been less than 4 weeks. Always regular unless I'm on the depo or something. I've only ever been further apart, not closer together. :dunno: fun fun...

skye- maybe it's just a one off thing? this cycle my AF was 25 days when it's almost always 28...

Hope so. I'm a bit wierd. I'm usually always the same date every month. Well I always was before. This is the first time I've been close to regular since I fell pg with Jesse. So thats well over 2 years ago. I guess I'll just make sure its actually af & go get the depo. Bit worried about leaving it. Not that I'll get pg with Anth not around, but knowing our luck he'd come home at just the right time & I wouldn't even think of it, lol.
Bugger having it every 3 weeks! Not liking this! I've been on the depo since Jaz was 12 months old, so only been getting af every 3 months for that long except when I was TTC.
I've never, ever had a shorter cycle before.

Hey all sorry have been slack life has been whirlwind here and its stated to catch up..starting with a dose of hand foot and mouth for for ME! and as a result my counts have plummeted and am exhausted.Will has been whinging constantly and its driving me nuts and not coping it as well as should be whilst unwell. AM hoping its a stage becasue its horrible atm. He is also off his food and is living on youghurt tinned fruit cream rice, some chicken strawberries and vegemite sandwhiches. I guess its all 5 food groups but its all he will eat if at all and its stressing me way more than it should. i Have put him on a mulitivitamin as we have all been run down and hope his apetite comes back soon. Cant wait for xmas and 3 weeks off work with Nick he is exhausted too as I am sur eyou all are at this end of the year. Sorry a very woe is me post isnt it just my mood atm. ON up side have lost 14 kilos in 9 weeks which I am thrilled about wanted to loose 20 before went off the pill to try and fall pregnant again so getting close .Hopefully after a bit of a diet break over xmas I can hit 20 before Feb and we can start then.
I hope you guys are all doing ok sorry for no personals tonight will pull my finger out soon I promise xx

Hope you all start to feel better soon. That must suck. Hoping the multi vitamins help. They should do.

Jazz is talking so much and doing so well at daycare. The FDC lady told me today that she's the only one out of the 4 non-school age kids who does puzzles without help, and finishes them before the other kids who are 15 months, 18 months and 3 years old! She can also now put all the shapes in her shape-o by herself and is starting to name some of them without help.

She's becoming a good helper (and sometimes hinderer). She likes to "help" cook dinner (by putting the food on the oven tray) and "help" clean up by wiping the table and washing her face and packing up her toys and other things.

Thinking that TTC#2 will still be probably at least 2-3 years away because we found out that we'll be able to buy our own house in the next 18 to 24 months instead of the 5-6 years that we thought it would take... and the only reason that it would take up to 2 years is because Matt's self employed and needs to be for 2 years before any lending agencies will touch us.

Sorry, a ramble about me again.

Skye: how's Jaz?
SJ: How are you going?
Prama: I've had you on my mind a fair bit lately. How's things?

oh bron sorry to hear abt foot and mouth.. bugger. hope you feel better soon, hun..
and :clap: you sexy hot mamma, that's a fantastic weight loss. looking forward to new pictures! whoo hoo. hope the weights stay off at x'mas! im sure you'll hit your goal in feb and then start TTC.

and i hear you abt food. lakshman some days wont want much dinner and just gets picky w his food.

hi danni. im good thanks. been busy at work and things slowing down and looking forward to the holidays.
good news on your house!!!

So girls how r xmas preps going everybody organised???

I think that we have hand foot and mouth here :( MJ has horried blisters all over her tonge and has had temps for the last few days.
My poor little bubba.
Those of you that have had it, can you give me some more info?

Bron, getting there with the xmas preps, this is a bit of a set back... but i have all of next week off, so will catch up then if need be.

hope you are all well

poor mj.. oh hugs and cuddles for her.. xoxox is she on any meds?

xmas - just wanting to wrap the rest of the pressies. done all shopping just waiting for to more in the post. we are the usual family bbq at our place.

poopy for some reason has started to constantly pinch me, less to steve and no one else. i dunno what to do. have done distraction, telling him it's not right, to be gentle etc. :(

SJ ice blocks helped both WIll and I with blisters in mouth. Hands are hard just try to keep them clean and dry. It just might make her feel a little miserable for a few days. Hands kid of feel like you have touched fibre glass and got tiny particles in until blisters come out. I still have them peeling on my hands. I dosed Will up`every 4 hours to make it bearable.. some get it worse than others.
Feeling much better here counts up and enjoying xmas preps we had our mg xmas party at ours today it was such great fun the kids had a ball.Pics on FB. Got to go fo rnow one very tired boy ready for bath and early bed. x

:( Poor MJ. Thats not what we had. They all came from the same thing though. Jaz & Jesse had just a viral rash & fevers like slap cheek, but not. Coz Jaz had that as a baby...yeah. Confusing, lol.
Hope she feels better soon.

Prama Jesse pinches too. I don't bother saying anything coz as soon as I do he gets an evil look in his eye & does it again :rolleyes: I ignore it til it hurts, then just move his hand. Over & over again. I might say 'don't that hurts' but it usually does nothing so there's not much point.

Looking forward to chrissy. Anth should be coming home this weekend & we'll at least have my mum, dad & sister here. Possibly my grandma & uncle. Still hoping Anth family will come, but they are thinking its the last christmas with FIL's dad, so more than likely heading to Syd.
We might head down that way after. Try catch up with Anth's brother & sister. We only met them once when they were 9 & 11.
Just found out his sister is pg :D So excited that I'm gonna be an aunty! Even more happy that Anth & I are the only ones who know so far!!!! Only chatted on the phone & facebook & she trusted me enough to tell me :) She's probably not staying with the father, was considering leaving him before she found out, so she's a bit worried what the family will think.
I'm so excited though!! lol

Anyway. Lets hope Anth gets paid soon so I can go finish my chrissy shopping! If not I only have a lunch box each & a watch for Jaz, lol. The rest is on layby!

Thanks for that skye - i hope it's a phase and he grows out of it... apparently he was pinching some kids at day care.
it will be so to have anth back!!
and yay for you going to be an aunt!! a real aunt! I feel like we are all aunts to each other's kids!

sj - how are you and your baby doing.. i hope she's not suffering too much..

bron - so glad to hear your blood counts are up!! yaay what a wonderful xmas pressie.. you must a skinny sexy mrs santa this year! So proud of your weight loss.

I'm getting bit nervous.. my temps dropped all of last week and over the weekend till today it's back up. AF is due today. I havent tested as I;m also feeling a bit flu-ey. So maybe that's why the temp rise?
I mean I didnt think we'd get pg this cycle, as we DTD at night on the O day. So I just assumed we would have missed the egg.
I'll wait for AF today and if not test tomorrow...
Also I have a job interview today. It's a junior role and I applied for the heck of it as it's with our "partner" I liaise with them and they know me. I wasn't really expecting to be called for an interview either but I have it today. It would be ironic if they could offer me what I want and I;m pg at the same time.. I reckon they just want to have a chat with me and see why I applied..

Will post if AF is here today or if I test tomorrow.
Please NO mention on FB though.. I know you won't but you know how it is..
xoxo

:crossfingers: Prama!!!!

OHHHHH PRAMA .... i am so excited for you!!! holding my breath!!!

MJ doesnt have HF&M, went to the GP yesterday... they think that it is a severe case of cold sores, apparently in babies it is really bad, its all over her tongue, inner cheeks and back of her throat. She is off food and drink and that is more the concern, very close to needing IV fluids yesterday but i took her home and pushed them like mad! She is slightly better today, still exhausted and irritable, but a bit more lively... Back at the GP tomorrow for another check. Poor bubba, her tongue looks terrible and must be so painful to eat. she has had ice blocks,yoghurt, icy poles and ice creams a lot, GP said just give her what EVER she wil eat, then worry about nutrition when she is better...

She has been asleep for 2 1/2 hours this afternoon, sleeping badly at night as i think that it is painful for her... i wish i could take it all away from her :( it sucks when they are sick...

on the upside, i am buying a trampoline for MJ and DSS on thursday when I get paid, it comes with free nets (which i think now a days are a must) but also a free tent, so you can have sleep outs in the tent!!! i think that it is going to be awesome... DH has dirty ideas aready hahaha

sj - so glad it isnt cold hfm but sorry it's cold sores... yoghurt has lots of nutrition so thats good that she's taking that.
yeah it breaks your heart when you cant take away their pain..
does she take bf?

they are going to have so much w the trampoline!! you can use it too!!
are the side bars protected w soft material. my lecturer was doing a study on kids and playgrounds and apparently it's common that kids break their arms on the sides. but these are older style ones and i think there's new standards now.

ETA: this is from kidsafe nsw http://www.kidsafensw.org/docs/facts...0KL%202009.pdf

Thats gotta be hard on her SJ. Is it impetigo or just cold sores?
Hope she feels better soon x

thanks Prama for the link, the trampoline has padded poles, also the net is on the inside of the springs which limits any problems there too.

Skye - she has ... herpes simplex gingivostomatitis... its particuarly nasty and aparently is more painful than HFM... will last for 10-14 days :(

Oh but on the plus side, SHE IS OUT OF NAPPIES!!! night time still on, but its so cool not having nappies to wash every 2nd day!
also no big fat nappy butt!!!

morning girls, posting you all first. so you are the first to know apart from Steve and Lakshman (sort of!)

Tested this morning and got a :bfp:
less panicky than the first time, but still quite surprised. We only DTD once and on the day O had just occurred. It was more of let's do a practise run as we were really going to get into it in the next cycle. We better be careful whenever we DTD in the future!
I hardly slept as I was thinking of testing and FMU and the more I thought of FMU the more I had to pee in the middle of the night but held till 5.30.
Steve went to have a shower while i was waiting for results and I went to show him. He wanted to do a thumbs up but instead stuck his middle finger out!
We're hoping all goes well, bub will be due at the end of Aug, might have the same birthday as my ditsy cousin.. eek.
Lots of Aug birthdays in my family mum, dad, 3 cousins, my brother's girlfriend
anyway, I have an appointment w my GP tomorrow afternoon for a blood test and am going to ring my Ob to book an appointment.
thanks for all your love girls.. xoxox

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
omg omg omg!!! Yay!!!!!!!!
Congrats guys!

thanks skye!
LOL i hope the pink pom poms are a sign that it will be a girl this time! haha

I hope so! So exciting!!!
(For the record, I personally like boys better ;) lol)

OMG cant stop smiling..hun I am soooooooooooooo thrilled for you god it felt like only yesterday when we were sitting in the park and you told me you had re joined the ttc group and were trying. Such briliant news. I am keeping all my bits crossed for you and a smooth pregnancy. *big hugs* for you and Steve xxxxx:dance::leap::confetti::loveshower:

thanks so much bron!

TBH - we had only DTD once, all the other times we were just to tired.. I thought I had already O-ed with temp rise that morning and CM was already no longer EWCM and drying up. That was the only night we did it as a trial run. We were really going to start getting into it the next cycle. So maybe it was a fluke sperm and egg. LOL.

I just booked to see my old ob. I have my first appt and scan Jan 18th and tomorrow I go see my GP for a blood test. I also booked a bed at Westmead Private, will be finalised when my ob does the paper work when i see him.

I still cant believe it. Someone join me please???