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yea i dunno what to use, or keep using s26,
i think in hossy they gave me s26 gold to use but i only used 2 little jars lol
i might get a sample pack and see about them
i was thinking nan but it contains phenalaline, (and on news reports they say that causes cancer and crap) i dunno lol, same as sugar free crap
my friend used karicare and made her boy cranky all the time,
i guess its trial and error and i gotta keep trying lol
Traylee - I think the one in the hospital was the normal s26 - at least the one I got was the normal one. I thought the gold was worse for constipation than the normal formula! I think it is best to disregard what didnt work for others as it is different for each child....so many people swear by a certain brand which works for them but is a complete disaster for another. I found Hunter spewed heaps on the S26 but not so much on the Karicare...he still does but they are not projectile or really big ones. It sucks you are having a bit of trouble with getting one that works. Hope you are able to find one you are happy with really soon.
Sleepy - I feel your pain...Hunter has been doing big poos too and we have had a couple of wees that have come when we were least expecting it...oh the joys of having a son LOL! Hunter also after doing a big poo, decides while you are wiping that he will do some more poos!
Hi to everyone else - I cant see anymore posts so cant do personals, hopefully everyone is getting some cuddles and managing some sleep! :-)
mmm thanks superstar, mm maybe i should try karicare, do u no if they sell them in travel packs so i can see how she goes, rather than buy another big tin to chuck out lol
Yeah it's all trial and error unfortuneately. Lol. Maybe go into a chemist and see if they have any sample packs you can use. Or even try ringing the formula companies and ask them for trial packs....it might work lol.
Other than that, just keep trying different ones until you find the right one, just hope it doesn't cost too much!
is the karicare a thcker one like s26,
i think the heinz might be to runny for her hence the realy bad puking,
the gold formula in s26 has same amount of iron as the normal one and i thought that was what made her constipated,
are you using karicare gold, or just a plain one,
traylee: Isn't it frustrating when you can't work out what one you need...they used to make little cans of formula, but they stopped making them, which is annoying when you are trying to find the right one!
You can get s26 and karicare in an AR formulation, they contain a thickener which helps the formula thicken in the stomach....its designed for reflux babies, and the thickening helps prevent it from coming back up.
In general formulas are all the same consistency (well, thats been my experience), but the AR (Anti-Reflux) ones get thicker as they cool down.
Is it possible that Eli has a lactose sensitivity. I think there is at least one formula thats available from the supermarket that seems to help with this...and theres one (which used to be chemist only, but may now be available in the supermarket) called Lactogen...I used to look after a little girl who chucked alot on formula, but when she went onto the lactogen it all settled down.
She wasn't lactose intolerant as such, and went on to cows milk at 12 months etc, and could eat cheese and yoghurt etc once solids were introduced...
It is a common thing...perhaps thats worth a shot?
The only drawback is, I know that there are no sample sachets available for lactogen....
BabyWrangler - Elijah is breast fed. I had Cooper on formula. So I'm not having any problems. Lol. I was ust telling traylee about my experience with formula when I fed Cooper.
I don't intend on putting Elijah on formula, at least not for a few months yet. We shall see how he goes. Cooper wasn't getting enough from my breast milk. But Eli seems to be doing just fine, apart from being affected by what I eat.
I wonder how our labouring mummies are doing.....
I'm finally back in here! I haven't had time to scratch myself!!! :lol:
My mum left on Fri morning and friends of ours arrived Fri afternoon. We have had lots of visitors in and out of here, but it has been nice. Our friends headed off this afternoon at nap time, but unfortunately I didn't get to have a nap as I have 4 bags to pack! I forgot how much you need to take away with a newborn baby!!! My car is full with 2 car seats and the pram pretty much takes up the entire boot (we drive a Commodore!) so goodness knows where the bags are going to go! So we're headed to SYD so H can meet my very sick grandad. It is going to be very sad as I don't know that we'll back down there before the cancer gets the better of him. I am just ever so greatful that he has made it this far and does get to meet my beautiful baby girl.
I am going to try my best to jump on here while I am down there, but it is going to be a busy few days so if not, I'll be back on Wednesday!
I hope you are all enjoying your babymoon. I am so glad to see everyone still in here, even if you were lucky enough to meet your bubby's before May 1st!
Take care ladies, I wish you plenty of sleep!
Ooooops!!! Sorry, my bad!!!!
My response was meant for traylee!!!
That's ok BabyWrangler! We are all very sleep deprived. ;)
Hoping tonight is full of lovely sleep....
Traylee - i am not sure if it comes in smaller packs....sorry! Would be helpful if you could get it in small packs to try.
Well I survived my first day of DP back at work...YAY!!! But Hunter has been a good boy so it hasnt been a bad day....
was hunter in paper there, is his last name jaram cause i found this link as i was looking for scarlet but they havent put her in yet
Tweed babies May 2010 | Tweed | Tweed Daily News
Well ladies, I have to say that however we are feeding our bubs, it seems to be a trial and error thing - either finding the right formula, or figuring out which foods we shouldn't eat and dealing with leaking BB's (yep, kinda over that, so glad to hear it will settle down eventually)!
AFM - Bos woke about midnight for a feed and didn't sleep again til about 11:45am this morning, apart from 2 or 3 x 15 minute catnaps. Scored! Not! He had such bad tummy pains, we couldn't put him down and he wouldn't go in the sling either so DH and I had to tag-team all night and morning. I was feeling pretty close to losing it by the time he finally settled, so glad he seems to be over it now. He was perfect at my parents house yesterday!
Bos had his first chiropractic adjustment today too, which he slept through (one of the 15 minute naps!). It was straight after that that he decided to settle.
Pish - Enjoy your trip to Sydney - hope your grandfather enjoys meeting H.
*Next Question*
What is everyone's settling routine/strategy? Do you cuddle/hold bub until they're asleep or just sleepy before you put them down? Do you pick them up straight away when they cry or comfort in the cot/bassinet or leave them to cry for a set amount of time?
Take care everyone!
Elijah falls asleep while on the boob when he's done. I generally burp him anyway and if he us unsettled I offer him the dummy. Once he's asleep I lay him down in his or our bed. I co-sleep at the moment with the cold snap that has come along. It makes for a better sleep for all, depending on wind. But it sure makes feeding easier too during the night. I don't pick him up straight away when he is unsettled, but I dont like leaving him to cry as I find this stresses him and I out.
Does any other bubs poop like a machine? Elijah poops so much, at every feed and in between.....I'm glad he gets his wind out, but man.....he a pooping machine!
Pish - have a great trip to Sydney, I'm so glad little H will get to meet her great-grandfather and he gets to meet her.
BW - thanks for the info on expressed breast milk, just one more quick question lol what do you store it all it? oh and I had no idea microwaving killed all the nutrients, that was going to be my reheating option of choice.
Jleigh - sounds like you've had a rough day, hopefully Bos settles well for you tonight and everyone gets some catch up sleep. A had her first chiro appt last thursday and didn't make a sound, must be relaxing for them. As for settling A is such a milk monster she is usually milk drunk by the time she's finished & burped, I wrap her and put her in her cot sometimes asleep, sometimes still semi-awake. Past few nights she's cracked it after her 10.00ish night feed and lays there whinging & grunting (she makes so much noise even in her sleep) for a few minutes. If it gets to a real cry we'll go in and pat her or pick her up give bit of a cuddle and then put her back and start the cycle over again until she settles, which isn't usually that long and it's been wind causing the problem most times.
Traylee - how are you going with the formula trials?
Superstar - Yay for surviving your first day on your own, that is one thing that is scaring me when DH goes back to work as he's really hands on too.
Hello to Sleepy, Marni & Socks hope you are enjoying your baby cuddles.
Hopefully we'll Tina & Erin joining as soon as they are settled with their little ones.
Have been out and about today looking at floor covering etc for the house, hopefully we'll get council approval in next week or so, so next step for me will be packing up the house ready to move but I've still got a couple of months up my sleeve. We are also planning our first road trip in a couple of weeks over to Vic to go and visit DH's family......think we should make it over with only 2 or maybe 3 feed stops, ahhh the things you have to consider now but it's all great & I wouldn't change it :)
Sleepy - just saw your post, A is another pooping machine I can't believe so much can come out of something so little!
She can poop before, during & after too, I think I've only had 2 wet only nappies ever! I get the giggles when she farts & poops as she's sucking - it's like she's gotta empty to make room for more lol
Hi Girls
I havent had a chance to catch up on all todays posts, been a hectic day here!
Phoenix: I store it in sterile milk storage bags (most chemists and baby shops have them).
I have an Avent breast pump with an attachment (like a hollow bottle) that the bag fits in, the milk is pumped directly into it, and then you take the bag of and put a plastic clip on it and bung it in the freezer. When its needed I can (havent yet this time around!) defrost it, then pour it into a bottle for heating and eating! (if you ebay search "avent disposable" they often come up).
AFM: We went to the MCHN for our 4 weeks check today, all is great, Kaylee has grown 6cm since birth, and in the last 10 days has gained a massive 435g! (yet still looks like a skun rabbit and is yet to hit the 4kg mark!!!)
I'll be back tomorrow for personals!!!
Oh and Kaylee is a poop machine too, and has a divine little habbit of squelching on out within seconds of being changed (as soon as I'm doing up the nappy tabs in some cases...and I'm not a slow nappy changer!)
Isn't it funny watching their facial expressions when they pooping? Lol so cute!
We had a great night last night, Elijah woke at 1.30am, after a feed at 9.30ish, then at 5.45am...so I was wrapped with that! Both DH and I had a great sleep, and I love sleep at the moment....He is doing well with his burping and wind issues - he is just a dream baby so far.....but touch wood, taht culd all change in a heart beat....lol
Pish - How was your first road trip? How many feeding stops did you have to make? lol It's nice that you are getting to take H to meet your grand father....hope you have a wonderful time!
traylee01 - How is the formula going? Having any luck finding a good one? Another good one is Karicare Goats milk. I used that one on my first son (mind you that was 12 years ago), because nothing else agreed with him. Its probably pretty expensive now tho :(
BabyWrangler - I know how scarey the first day alone is! I had to do it yesterday, but I managed it just fine, and even went out for coffee and some shopping, but boy was I exhausted when I got home! I didn't end up having a sleep at all, as much as I desperately wanted/needed one! I also did well this morning with getting the others out the door for school, lunches made and so forth! It's very hard tho....but I did it! :D
Phoenix76 - Sounds like you ahve a busy few months ahead of you! Just take your time and do it one step at a time...it can become very tiresome very quickly!
A big :hello: to Socks, TinaR and Erin who will be joining us very soon no doubt! Hope you're all well and enjoying your babymoons! :)
Hiya Girls!
Sleepy: I think your response re being home alone for the first time was meant for SSM....I've been on own since we came home from hospital, with DH going back from work the day after we came home from hospital :) I took boyo and kaylee grocery shopping that day!
JLeigh: I make a habit of putting little lady to bed awake as often as possible (occasionally she falls into a deep sleep while I'm burping her, in which case I make sure I give her a smooch and say goodnight right in her ear so that she stirs, that way she realises she's in bed and not in my arms.
In terms of picking her up when she cries...she usually has to wait a minute or two for me to either get to her in her room, or get to her as I'm busy with boyo!!!!
Pish: Have a wonderful time in Sydney!!
traylee: Hows the formula hunting going?
sleepy: good job on the sleeping! We are getting a few nice big sleeps too, gotta love it! Mind you...even after a good sleep last night when little lady woke up this morning I buried my head in my pillow and went "noooooohooooohoooooo" (DH laughed...I growled at him!)
:hello: to everyone else!!!!
AFM: Nothing to report!!!
we have decided to keep on s26 for now,
she did lots of poos yesterday but none today so far,
she is feeding 90mls prolly every 2 to 3hrs, soemtimes longer during day
troy has still been doin nights for me so i love it, but i hear her and he brings her in to my rooom early in mornings,
he is off to coast tomorrow to get the dog and other car that is still down there lol so ill be on my own with the 2 lol
im feeling good though, and my steri strips fell off finally so we put some more on incase, but im happy they did staples now not sutures cause i find the staples were way easier and im walking and started driving minimal though onyl round corner to shop, daughter school is only across road so i can walk there so im lucky
how is eveyrone else feeling
Sorry BabyWrangler! Wow it's amazing how much we need our sleep! I just had half an hour nap, and I don't wanna get up! Sooo tired still. Lol.
Ok bubs is waking up......:(. Just wanna go back to sleep! Lol
My nothing to report turned a corner!
Only a minor one!
I called the specialist today to book little lady in to have her hips looked at by the orthopaedic surgeon, I expected there to be a long (at least a month minimum) wait to get in, as is the case with most specialists, but I got an appointment for MONDAY! I'm so pleased...the sooner we can start getting on top of it all the better!
BW - Thats great that Kaylee is getting seen to so soon!
Traylee- I used to use Nan Gold with Tiana and it was fantastic - but all babies are different.
Sleepy - Thats a fantastic night! Hopefully it becomes a regular occurance.
Phoenix - Hope A is being an angel for you.
We are all doing well here. Phoebe is a very contented baby overall. We have some unsettled times but normally nothing that can't be fixed with some cuddles. Really can't complain. FOr those who a breastfeeding does your baby take both sides at a feed? Phoebe generally only takes one but seems to be growing so I am not really worried. She is getting weighed tomorrow though. As for settling she normally falls asleep once she is finished feeding. She either sleeps in her cot in our room or in bed with me if she is unhappy.
Hi to everyone else!!
sleeping lol, scarlet sleeps on couch while im on loungeroom, and when it gets to dark time and im goin to bed she goes into her bassinette in one of our rooms,
Marni - Elijah has both sides generally. I give him one side then change his backside and then the other side. Sometimes he has one side then falls back asleep. But mostly both sides.
My MIL is buying me a baby rocker that vibrates and has toys on it tomorrow, so that'll come in handy for sleep times sometimes. I can use it when he wants to be with everyone because our cradle doesn't have wheels.
Sleepy and Phoenix - It sounds like you do similar things when your bubs are sleepy/grizzly/crying. We let Boz grumble but try to pick him up before a full-blown cry as we all find it too stressful and it then ends up taking so much longer to calm him down and get him off to sleep. DH really doesn't cope well if he's grizzly and always picks him up before I would - a pat and soothing words work most of the time unless it's wind.
BW - DH had to do two double changes this morning - both times before the tabs were done up he'd pooped again! Lol, glad it wasn't me! When you put bub to bed awake, how does she take it? 9 times out of 10 Boz cries and cries if he's put down awake. I don't want him to have to rely on us, but the crying thing is so stressful... Great news that you have an appointment for Monday too.
Marni - I change, feed on one side, change (if needed), then offer the second side. Most of the time he'll take it but never empties it fully. I offer that second side first at the next feed. Oh, and I put a pin on my bra strap to remind me which side I fed (first) from last time because I can't remember from one feed to the next and sometimes it's hard to tell which side is fuller!
Traylee - I am feeling pretty good during the day and not napping, but by this time of night I am pretty tired and usually feel absolutely shattered when Bos wakes at night. Sometimes I just want to be able to take my boobs off and let DH feed him - definitely feeling a little resentful on occasion!
Hello to everyone else - hope you had a good day!
AFM - We braved the shops and had a ball! Boz was so good and I bought a couple of sleep bras, which I think will be very comfy. I also bought a couple of pairs of stretchy long pants cos all my maternity stuff isn't warm enough and I don't fit any of my old pants yet.
I meant to say that the chiro weighed and measured Boz and he's put on nearly 1/2kg since leaving hossy, plus 1.5cm each in length and head circumference. I felt so proud that he's growing, although part of me is sad that he's growing up so big already.
How's everyone else's bubs? What changes have you noticed? Boz is starting to look at things that are farther away and is more interested in his pram/gym toys now than he was a week ago.
Has anyone else noticed just how boring/rubbish tv is at 1am to 5am? Altho I was considering buying the V Water Filtered Vacuum Cleaner.....lol. And Zumba looks good....but soooooo expensive!
Haha I really don't like tv in the wee hours of the morning!
lol i agree on tv,
i had scarlet last night im stuffed lol
she had bottlr 9.10pm, 1am, 4am but took like 1hr to settle and 120mls later lol
Awww sorry to hear you had a hard night traylee. I am quite impressed with Elijah, had a feed at 9pm, then 1am then woke at 6am. I had a hard tome with his brother, who woke every 2 hours....I guess I just expected the same from Eli. But like I said to DH, if I could guarantee all babies would be like him, I'd have 10 more. Lol.
By the way traylee, I love that name! I had that chosen as one of my short list names if I had a girl! ;)
yea, it wasnt so bad, i no she cant help it she just a bub, im lucky to have troy who can take over when im to tired, i just did last night cause he on his way back down coast today to get the other car and the dog lol.
i should be greatful to even have 3hrs sleep lol, as when i was pregnant i woke eveyr 1hr to pee lol and couldnt sleep, so i should stop complainning could be worse.
she just so adorable though i like watching her sleep she grins and smiles and also has alot of bad dreams.
she did the biggest spew last night and troy was holding her and he had to move to the side and it went all over my cupboard was projectile vomit lol i laughed
then he changed her bum and she had runniest poo and he was like ewww smelly and then took it off and she peed all over my bed lol,
then i was trying to watch greys anatomy and she kept farting lol so funny i couldnt stop laughing, they r just so innocent at this age
Lmao, I was watching greys too, love that show, Elijah does the biggest farts....lol, cute, but smelly! But at least he gets his wind out.....
And it's just so sweet when they pee/vomit/poo on their daddies....lol I laugh so hard when Elijah does it....lol.....
Sleepy - I'm a particular fan of American religious shows on in the early morning hours - not! My SIL went to Zumba class a couple of weeks ago and loved it - I reckon it almost makes exercise look like fun!
Traylee - Boz has been feeding every 2-3 hours since last night, taking almost an hour to feed, then at least an hour to settle (DH and I have just spent 4 1/2 hours and he's only just gone down!), doesn't seem to matter what we do, he won't sleep. His little eyes fall closed but as soon as we move him even the tiniest amount, he wakes up and cries his little eyes out. I am not coping all that well atm, hoping it will stop. DH has suggested expressing some so he can do a night feed and maybe I'll feel better with a bit more sleep.
BW - Tell me more about expressing and storing milk! You have an Avent pump - did you buy or hire? When do you express - after a feed, between, or before? Can you express enough for one feed in a single go? How long does it take to defrost? And anything else that you think I should know about EBM!
Phoenix - Have you tried expressing yet?
AFM - As I said to Traylee, I'm not coping too well when Bosley is so difficult to settle. I hate seeing him upset and crying but resent the fact that he needs to be held for hours on end and still won't go to sleep. If we put him in his bassinet awake, he gets himself so worked up and it just takes that much longer to settle him. What we do works sometimes but not others, which makes it all the more confusing. We're going to a new baby session at the Community Health nurse tomorrow so I reckon I'll have lots of questions to ask and hopefully get some decent advice.
Hope everyone else is coping better than I am!
JLeigh - It is completely normal for little babies not to self settle. They are used to being held inside you and it is a big shock for them to be on the outside. It doesnt make it any easier though. My first was like that. I honestly could not put her down and even when she slept it was for no longer than 30-45 minutes. Generally it was only for 20mins at a time though. It is really hard though and lack of sleep makes it seem even worse than it is. Expressing so your DH can do a feed is a good idea, try expressing from the other breast to what he is feeding from while he is feeding - it will help with letdown and could help get more milk. Also normally you have more milk in the morning so try expressing then. If you ever want to talk feel free to PM me. I really understand what you are going there. My first year with Tiana was exceptionally difficult. Oh and if you need to stand in the shower and cry, there is nothing wrong with that!
Hope everyone else is getting some sleep!
Apparently I am a good cow! We had Phoebe weighed today and she has put on 400g in one week! My little porka is now 4.3kg! I am excited too, I am off to get my hair cut soon! I was meant to get it done but bub came early so I will feed her and John will stay at the shops with her in case she needs me while I get it done. But it will be so nice to be able to wear my hair out again!
Hi girls,
Just popping in to see how everyone is going. Good to see that most belly buddies ended up in the same thread. Would it be alright if I stalk you guys in here?
We are going ok; Ben is just starting to get a bit harder to put to sleep and he has a lot of wind. I can't wait until he learns to keep up with my supply and becomes less windy. I have to say that my letdown is a bit scary; if he pulls off, he gets a couple of jets in his face, poor little man.
Thanks Marnikat. The logical part of my brain knows that everything is normal and that Bosley is actually a really good baby, but sometimes I just feel out of control. I've heard it said that teachers are some of the worst for coping with new bubs because their whole work life runs to a set timetable and suddenly they have a baby who's in charge and there is no timetable any more. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of expressing - perhaps just being better rested will make all the difference...
BTW - Have just had a good cry in the shower. Were you watching???!
jleigh im the same with scarlet,
she seems to want to be held to sleep also, and 4am early mornings she seems to wanna play up more lol,
my first hayley was quiet good went in her bouncer at my feet during day and was happy, but scarlet nope wants to be in arms
i no how u feel, i have had help from troy since im doin formula but during day when i have her or the odd nights im like oh please go down lol
she isnt to bad early in nights, i can feed burp change, feed more then put in bassinette she makes alot of noise in her sleep though.
but i think they will change soon and settle more im hoping , even her swing she doesnt really like it so im beat as to what to do besides hold her cause i dont like the crying either :(
Traylee and Jleigh - sorry to hear bubs are being a bit hard to settle - I know I would be feeling a bit out of sorts if it took Hunter a long time to settle - I hate when he just crys for a minute or two when I am getting him dressed. I have been lucky he is a content little man most of the time and self settles or just wants a quick cuddle to get to sleep...not sure if I am feeling better about things because he is formula fed and feeds on a pretty consistant routine. I think (not sure if I sound a bit wrong in the head) HUnter knows the difference between night and day, in the night he feeds and goes straight down most of the time - I can hear him fussing most mornings about 430am-530am...he gets to 530 and crys to be feed...so I dont get to watch the quality TV you guys do :-) I keep thinking he is going to change to a very unsettled baby at any moment.
To the mums with other children or bubs slightly older than my bub...do they get more unsettled as they get older?
Also, I think he may have been going through a bit of a growth spurt yesterday...he had to feed every 3 hours when usually he goes 3.5 to 4 hours between feeds - is this normal? I gave him a bit more formula at his last feed but he promptly brought most of it back up. I am not sure if he needs more??? It has been 3h15minutes since his last feed and he isnt stiring yet so will probably make it to the 4 hours again....I am just not sure what he needs :-( We dont go to the child health nurse until monday so I dont know if he has put on weight or if I am feeding him enough...any assistance would be great.
JLeigh - Have you tried co-sleeping? I fnd it is good for Eli. He loves the closeness, and the warmth, and I can lie down and feed. I use a V pillow for Eli. It keeps him snug and warm and it is raised to I won't roll on him. and it might help if Bos doesn't like being moved too. I will be putting him into his bed soon, but for the moment we are gettng sleep so it's working. I'm sorry you're having a hard time at the moment, and I think expressng is a good idea if it let's you get some rest and space.
Sleepy - I've almost been convinced to buy the Wen shampoo they are flogging lol, I've resorted to watching ABC black & white moves lol. That being said little miss has been waking around 4.30ish past few nights so I get to watch the US today show.
Traylee - sorry to hear you had a rough night the other night.
ohhh I'll be back a bit later to do more personals, little miss has decided it's feed & nappy change time and there's not putting that off when she decides it's time :D