Babies born~November 16-31st 2009 #1

[~Stoked~]

Hello Ladies!

A quick, one-handed post to say Merry Christmas to you all!!!! Hope you have a fantastic day with your new bubbas!

We had the clinic nurse here today.. Archie has put on 740g since birth so that's awesome.. she does think that he might be suffering from silent reflux though as he is so unsettled, has anyone had any experiences with this? He feeds ALOT and won't settle unless he is in my arms (held in upright position), so he doesn't sleep much at all during the day as everytime i try to put him down he wakes up!!

Might have to do a bit of googling!

Big hugs to all! Hope you all get spoilt for chrissy x x x

[ubba82]

Hi Girls!

Just a quick on to say Merry Christmas to you all. Have a wonderful and safe holiday xxx

Im off to get dinner started, hopefully I will be back on later - Natty I want to reply to what you wrote xx

[Alison1973]

Hi Kymmy, Hi Ubba, Hi Tania!

Tania, I found your post so interesting as I'm feeling the same, I am starting to wonder if Amelia is getting enough from my BF'ing and whilst I definitely have milk she seems to settle better at night when I've comp fed with formula. I too have thoughts of how much easier formula feeding would be, I don't like feeding in public either. I'm going to push a bit longer but if that's true about formula being just as good after 4 weeks perhaps I don't need to feel so guilty. Like I said, I will keep at it for as long as I can but I'm not going to feel guilty any more about doing the odd formula feed at night. I did read formula has vitamins (particularly D) that breast milk doesn't have so I'm sure it's not as bad as they make out. I will see how I go over the next few weeks.

How do you know if your baby has reflux? I know they are unsettled and scream/cry a lot, is that the only way of telling? Kymmy, I haven't heard of silent reflux either, might google out of interest. Amelia seems fine so far so fingers crossed she doesn't get it.

Anyway, must get back to wrapping the pressies, just fed Amelia whilst trying to each lunch, I've probably slopped my lunch all over her LOL!

Have a great Chrissy Eve and Chrissy Day girls.

xx

[Arimeh]

Kymmy - my DD1 had silent reflux, she was really unsettled and such an unhappy baby - that never slept!! We treated her with infant gaviscon that the doc told us to, but then we were told that it is pretty awful for little ones, gives them constipation or something similar - not good on bellies apparently. So we treated her by taking her to a paed chiro for treatment there, plus we got homeopathic remedies instead of treating her with drugs - PLUS - we also put her on goats milk formula. All these seem to work a treat (especially the homeopathic stuff) and she is fine now (she's 16 months).

Alison & Miss Magpie - I've never heard about the 4 week thing and I'm guessing that if you posted that in the BFing section it would be shot down in flames (ie, so don't post a thread about it! LOL) I've always been for whatever works for the mother, and the family unit as a whole. I could probably build up my supply with more frequent expressing and things like that - but the fact is that I have two other kids that need their mum (especially my teething 16 month old!!) so DH and I usually talk about these things together and look at it from the family point of view. But I always think that if mummy is happy - bubby is happy

Oh and I hope nobody takes my posts as being condescending if I express my opinion about things? Cos thats all it is, my opinion, or what worked for me - I never expect anyone to do what I do... lol.. hard to tell the tone of your post on here though I suppose.

Miss Magpie - I'm going to try DD2 on goats milk formula now, the reflux formula didn't make one iota of difference, she's still puking everywhere!!!! Plus the naturopath on the sunny coast told Craig that nobody should be drinking cows milk - we should all be on goats milk (yerrk dunno bout that!!) But its supposed to be more easily digested (and closer to breast milk) probably why its so friggin expensive.

Best be off again, DD1 is whinging (loudly) and DS is jumping all over the place cos DH is on the phone - and thats what they do!!! No wonder I never call any one..

Merry xmas to everyone - enjoy your bubba's first!!!

[Arimeh]

How do you know if your baby has reflux? I know they are unsettled and scream/cry a lot, is that the only way of telling?

Whoops sorry, missed this. Usually the classic signs are they pull on and off whilst feeding, they raise their knees to their chest and are very unsettled, you usually can't get a lot of sleep out of them, they usually wake up when you put them down, DD1 always made disgusted looking faces whilst feeding - she would have the stuff come up her throat and back down again etc.

Silent reflux is all the reflux signs - but no chucking - hence the silent part.
I hope nobody else's bubba has it cos its not nice to see bubbas in pain like that

[Alison1973]

Hi Arimeh - thanks for that info on reflux! And I agree, best not post anything on BB about formula or we might get shot down in flames alright ! LOL I'll continue to BF for now and comp feed when necessary. Like you said, when mummy is happy, so is bubby and as long as they're getting food to grow that's the most important thing!

So what you're saying is we should all go buy a goat for Christmas and do the milking.......imagine that, from expressing our boobs to expressing a goats LOL! All the good stuff is expensive huh.........typical!

[~Stoked~]

Arimeh, Archie does pull off the boob a fair bit... not every feed though, say about half of them, usually i'll stop feeding and burp him but sometimes he won't burp and be happier to stop feeding. At the moment he is sleeping soundly on the bed by himself (making a liar outta me!)... Does the silent reflux happen at every feed or can it happen every so often??
Thanks!! xx

[Arimeh]

Kymmy - reflux happens at every feed, cos they usually throw it all back up again. He could be pulling on and off for a few reasons, one is wind, so you could try wind drops (we use infacol here for wind) or it could be something to do with bfing (ie, your let down is quick or something like that - don't ask me, I'm sooo not an expert with bfing lol)... there are a few other things it could be. DD1 wasn't just pulling off the teat (cos she was formula fed from birth) she was also crying as she was doing it, and it took about an hour to get 50ml into her. She was also feeding every 2 hours... it was pretty trying, especially with a then 19 month old terror running around!!!

My LC said the other day with reflux babies, smaller feeds more frequently is a thing to try as well. Trouble is, DD2 decides how much is right for her, and at the moment, smaller feeds ain't what she likes!!!

Stubborn kids I have...

Alison - mate if you get a goat, you could milk enough for all of us.. LOL.. I'll send you my pump to help out.. bwahahahaha

[~Stoked~]

Thanks Arimeh!! I guess it's something to look into a bit more... He definately doesn't do it at every feed, he is feeding happily away right now!

Just wanted to tell everyone (cos i'm so excited!), a friend of mine has kindly lent me her baby wrap (called a 'Sleepy Wrap') and it's bloody fantastic! So comfy to wear and Archie just loves it! Took him to the supermarket in it and he slept the whole way round (unheard of!)!!!! So i feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders cos i now have an option for when i want him to be calm and quiet cos he is so clingy!! YAY! So now i'm looking into buying one myself! Call it my xmas pressie!

Goodnight ladies! Don't stay up too late or Santa won't come.......

x x x

[~Serenity~]

hey all merry xmas,had dinner last night then lunch today great times,had a few drinks but bought those formula satchells so i wasnt naughty

Merry xmas all, spewing my camera didnt have any memory today but oh well