Babies born~November 16-31st 2009 #1

[ubba82]

I thought mine had just about finished, only a little bit on the pad when I woke up this morning but as the day went on it is evident the bleeding is still hanging around grrr. I bled for 6 weeks with the other 2 but I dont think I will go for that long this time.

Mon- A week after the birth?? Wasnt it a bit 'messy'?

[~Serenity~]

from that time i really only needed a panty liner wasnt much at all...every now and then i would need a tampon for the day but not much lucky i guess....

i have come to the realisation that serenity isnt hungry when she wakes all through the night just comfort feeding,the other night she lasted from 7 to 1:30 shame i was awake having drinks at my dads lol so i think im gonna try the dummy first b4 i keep putting her on the boob,i know sh will be hungry at some stage but i dont want it to be a habit

[~Stoked~]

Hello ladies!

Archie is asleep with his dad! Woohoo! Usually he'll only really sleeps in my arms so i'm pretty happy!

Attempted the xmas shopping today.... it went badly, very badly! Archie screamed and screamed so i managed to get a couple of things then i just turned around and came home!

With DD, I bled for three weeks then got AF when she was four weeks old! And she was fully BF so i dunno what happened there...

Darn it.. Archie just woke up and is now on my boob..I'll come back later on x

[billykat]

hello lovely girls

just poped in quickly to say **MERRY CHRISTMAS**

we are off on hoilday for maybe a week (depends how things go) to stay at my mum and dads for christmas!!! i hope you all have a fantasic christmas with your new babies and all your all other littlies!!

takecare girls

[Arimeh]

Have a good holiday Billy Kat - Merry Xmas to you and your family

Heavenly - I thought you couldn't use tampons for 6 weeks after you had a baby? I'm sure I've read that on the pack - but then its been a while since I used them...lol... I'd be too worried about the damn thing falling out to be honest...lol

Hello to everyone else - had an ok night - woke DD2 up at 9.30 for a feed, then she woke up around 2am, then 6.30am - so not too bad. Need to up my supply though, this morning I have hardly managed to express anything - hard to find time with the other two running around my feet.

Got DH's work xmas bbq today so that should be interesting!! DS has been awake since 5.30 so he'llbe in a fine mood by this arvo I'm sure...lol

[JDsMum]

Did everyone have a good night??

I have had shockers the last 3 nights.....I can hardly remember what times I was up, but I know I was....it all becomes a bit of a blur....

Abbey was up this morning for a feed from about 3:45 and didnt settle back down until just after 6am!! Freaking ridiculous!! She wasnt upset or anything, just not wanting to go back to sleep!! So I thought I may as well do something so I'm out the back like a crazy person hanging out loads of washing in the dark at 5am and cleaning up around the joint...also caught up on an episode of Survivor so that was good....

The interrupted / lack of sleep is killing me though....I always nearly pass out in the afternoons if I'm feeding her on the lounge at around 2:30 / 3pm as I can hardly keep my eyes open....no chance of catching up during the day for a decent amount of time with JD cruising around trashing the house etc....always have to have one eye open with that boy...

Anyway, selfish post....going to try and get a Santa pic with the 2 of them this afternoon so fingers crossed JD doesnt balk at him and refuse!!

[nattyfred]

Hi ladies,

I feel like i havent posted in here for ages, time just seems to be slipping by and I have days when I think it is all coming together then days when I wonder how it can be so bad..As I mentioned earlier I felt a bit stupid with my sil here who has had 2 kids..Has anyone else had ppl saying things like "why are you feeding so often? My kids never cried like that whats wrong with her etc..?" I questioned myself so much the other day I took her to the doctors to make sure nothing was wrong then started crying in his office. In a way I took her there so dh could see there is nothing wrong from the doctor as i feel like he doesnt have faith in me as a mum even though he says he does. He had the balls to ask me the other night did I mind if he called his sister to ask why she thought V was crying... I lost it at him and said if he would hold her for more than 5 minutes and try something while i go and have a **** that would be nice and how about we ring his other sister (who is a major hypochondriac) for a diagnosis aswell while we are at it lol...What is she going to say??? bum, hungry pain overtired etc which is all stuff I know...The fact is she gets ****ty at nights. Im the one who has to calm her so I dont know why he is so worried...grrrr....ok...breathe...

Jds mum, what does Abbey do when you do washing? does she hang out in a bouncer or on a rug etc? I hope the santa pic worked out we have been so slack and wont worry about it this year Im flat out trying to do a low maintenance chrissy for the in laws lol

Arimeh, Maybe try the beer thing, I have and it has helped a little, Im bad at expressing so I worry about my supply too. I can only get 40 ml out at a time usually both boobs combined but V keeps putting on 300ish g a week so is getting fed so there must be enough....

Billy MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!! I hope you have a great day Mummy!!

Kymmy my sympathies on Archie losing it isnt it horrible? V did it the other week we felt so bad and everyone looks at you like you shouldnt be out with such a small baby lol....This woman goes oh shes hungry and i had just fed her and i was like um no she is not and shes my daughter so i think i know so there...well i said that in my head lmao...

Heavenly how many drinks do you have? The other day i had 2 light beers which i loved... We dtd at about week 4 but it still felt a bit bruised and havent gotten around to it again although i keep having sexy dreams lol..

Alison and Arimeh its the cradle and swing. It can go side to side or front to back. Its brown, white and blue with big brown ears so it looks like she has big ears when she is in it lol and it is quite big but worth the extra peace and quiet even if it is 5 mins lol..Telly that sucks maybe later on it will be more appealing lol..

Thanks for listening on a brighter note v ddidnt cry at all last night but i wont get my hopes up....ill wait o see if she keep it up bfore i brag..She is now 3960g just over 1kg above birth weight....definately not hungry...lol

xx natty

[Arimeh]

Natty - I definitely didn't have enough milk for her, she's only just reached her birth weight, so the LC said she is getting enough to sustain her (ie so she's not DYING) but not enough to actually gain weight and thrive.

We've been expressing what we can, but my supply has dropped dramatically now, so I only got 150ml for the WHOLE DAY yesterday. That's like, a little over one feed for her! She drinks at least 120ml now, so we are trying the reflux formula at the moment to see if that helps with the chucking, if not, we'll have to try another formula. I read somewhere that reflux is often associated with a cows milk intolerance? Not sure where I read that - but considering she always threw up when feeding from me (hence the low weight gain as well!) there could be something in it. We had DD1 on goats milk formula because she got horribly constipated on soy and cows milk formula - so we might have to head down that path with DD2 as well - which is expensive!!!!!

Oh and natty - nobody knows your baby like you do - just remember that

JD's mum - I have to keep an eye on DS all the time too Plus he doesn't have a nap during the day, so no napping for me either!!! Although DD1 has never been a great sleeper and I've been coping on a max of 4 hours sleep a night for a long time now so I think my body is just used to it!!! Having said that, I did fall asleep on the couch last night (mind you it was around 11pm!) and didn't even know I had passed out until I woke up and DH was looking at me.. hahahaha.

We went to the shops today (crazy!!) after signing our mortgage docs at the bank for our new unit - DD2 was fine for a while, and then cracked up cos it was feed time, so DH fed her in the car whilst I took DD1 and DS into Coles (OMG CRAZY TOWN!!!).

Hmm.. DS is mixing chocolate milk and strawberry milk and drinking it out of the carton. I think its time to get off the computer. LOL

[Alison1973]

Hi Girls!

Hi Natty - you poor girl, that's horrible to have that from people, tell your SIL's to p off! I hate the way people give you their advice in a condescending way, you cop it when you're pregnant and now as a mum, it REALLY irks me! My family are pretty good actually - just as well as my sister's are 10 and 7 years older than me so they had their kids quite some time ago, they're all between 15 and 20 years old now! But mum tends to say the odd thing like when I pick her up if she's crying she might say, oh, she has you wrapped around her finger already cheeky girl. I'm like, no mum, they don't understand the concept of manipulation at this young age! She shuts up then. Yesterday I had my hair done and my mum and sister came with me and took Amelia for a nice long walk, I made up a formula bottle as I didn't have a chance to express first just in case she got hungry as I knew I'd be there when she was due for her next feed. Anyway, I usually only top her up with 40 mls or so from my boob but they gave her the entire 120 ml bottle! Of course she slept for the rest of the afternoon while at the shops but she did have her first vomit when she woke up, she obviously over ate! I think I have a piggy, she seems to want to be on my boob longer now.....I assume thats going to happen as she grows! I only managed to express 50 mls yesterday by the time I got home from being out all day so must try and do more today. I really feel bad giving her too much formula, not sure why really! Guess that's from having the nurses drum it into you which is silly really.

Anyway, I've got loads to do today, have to finish wrapping presents and start preparing food for tonight (at the inlaws) and my families Chrissy lunch tomorrow. It's hard doing all these things with one hand isn't it!!!!!

So, in case I don't get on again, have an absolutely fabulous Christmas my friends and hope you enjoy spending it with your littleons.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[MissMagpie]

Hi girls,

Well Im home alone, bored out of my brains! DP is at his work break up so wont be home till later. The housecleaner has been so the house is ready for tomorrow. We have DP's family coming over for brekky and we are all chipping in with the food. There is NOTHING on tv either So thought Id play on the computer, lol

Trent slept a record 9 hours last night..woo hoo!!! Im not sure if it was the heat or the thickened formula we are now using but it was GREAT He stirred a few times with wind, farted then went back to sleep, lol Im hoping this is a sign of things to come. I cant wait to spend our first Christmas with him tomorrow. I was feeding him yesterday and got all teary thinking about it. He is just so precious to me and he is the best Christmas present I could EVER ask for.

Am thinking of giving up bf as of tomorrow. My supply is so low that he drinks mostly formula now anyway. I just feel very guilty and once I give it up, I cant go back. I love the whole bonding it gives him and I but its all very time consuming for such a little amount. He is thriving on the formula and putting on lots of weight. My OB said the first 4 weeks is most important with bf and after that the nutrients he gets from bf is in formula. If he was totally bf, then I would keep up with it for both his wellbeing and cost wise too but he is maybe a 1/3 bf and 2/3 formula fed. Its a hard decision but with the hectic Christmas day and holidays ahead, bf is going to be harder and harder as I dont like doing it in public. Decisions, decisions.

Nat - I agree with Alison, tell you SIL's to p*ss off! First time mums arent DUMB and we have to learn things for ourselves and have our OWN instincts. Im lucky not to many people have given me there 2 cents worth, its only when I have asked for advice. You know your own baby and you just have to go with your gut. Every baby is different so you can ask others all you want, but its what works best for V and yourself. Your doing a GREAT job

Alison - Amelia seems to be going ahead in leaps and bounds! Dont worry, Trent is a little piggy too! Since changing him to the thicker formula, he's demolishing 150mls in like 10 mins We changed teats too which are for coelicky babies so we are hoping this helps. Enjoy your night tonight and your day tomorrow

Arimeh - I have avoided the shops like the PLAGUE! Have heard how hectic they are. Hope the reflux formula helps your little one. The thickened formula seems to be helping Trent thank goodness. He's not as chucky.

to Ubba, Kymmy, Heavenly, JD's mum, billy kat and Telly.

Have a WONDERFUL Christmas girls especially the first time mums Its going to be such a special day! Hope Santa is good to you all.

Take care,

Tania xx

[~Stoked~]

Hello Ladies!

A quick, one-handed post to say Merry Christmas to you all!!!! Hope you have a fantastic day with your new bubbas!

We had the clinic nurse here today.. Archie has put on 740g since birth so that's awesome.. she does think that he might be suffering from silent reflux though as he is so unsettled, has anyone had any experiences with this? He feeds ALOT and won't settle unless he is in my arms (held in upright position), so he doesn't sleep much at all during the day as everytime i try to put him down he wakes up!!

Might have to do a bit of googling!

Big hugs to all! Hope you all get spoilt for chrissy x x x

[ubba82]

Hi Girls!

Just a quick on to say Merry Christmas to you all. Have a wonderful and safe holiday xxx

Im off to get dinner started, hopefully I will be back on later - Natty I want to reply to what you wrote xx

[Alison1973]

Hi Kymmy, Hi Ubba, Hi Tania!

Tania, I found your post so interesting as I'm feeling the same, I am starting to wonder if Amelia is getting enough from my BF'ing and whilst I definitely have milk she seems to settle better at night when I've comp fed with formula. I too have thoughts of how much easier formula feeding would be, I don't like feeding in public either. I'm going to push a bit longer but if that's true about formula being just as good after 4 weeks perhaps I don't need to feel so guilty. Like I said, I will keep at it for as long as I can but I'm not going to feel guilty any more about doing the odd formula feed at night. I did read formula has vitamins (particularly D) that breast milk doesn't have so I'm sure it's not as bad as they make out. I will see how I go over the next few weeks.

How do you know if your baby has reflux? I know they are unsettled and scream/cry a lot, is that the only way of telling? Kymmy, I haven't heard of silent reflux either, might google out of interest. Amelia seems fine so far so fingers crossed she doesn't get it.

Anyway, must get back to wrapping the pressies, just fed Amelia whilst trying to each lunch, I've probably slopped my lunch all over her LOL!

Have a great Chrissy Eve and Chrissy Day girls.

xx

[Arimeh]

Kymmy - my DD1 had silent reflux, she was really unsettled and such an unhappy baby - that never slept!! We treated her with infant gaviscon that the doc told us to, but then we were told that it is pretty awful for little ones, gives them constipation or something similar - not good on bellies apparently. So we treated her by taking her to a paed chiro for treatment there, plus we got homeopathic remedies instead of treating her with drugs - PLUS - we also put her on goats milk formula. All these seem to work a treat (especially the homeopathic stuff) and she is fine now (she's 16 months).

Alison & Miss Magpie - I've never heard about the 4 week thing and I'm guessing that if you posted that in the BFing section it would be shot down in flames (ie, so don't post a thread about it! LOL) I've always been for whatever works for the mother, and the family unit as a whole. I could probably build up my supply with more frequent expressing and things like that - but the fact is that I have two other kids that need their mum (especially my teething 16 month old!!) so DH and I usually talk about these things together and look at it from the family point of view. But I always think that if mummy is happy - bubby is happy

Oh and I hope nobody takes my posts as being condescending if I express my opinion about things? Cos thats all it is, my opinion, or what worked for me - I never expect anyone to do what I do... lol.. hard to tell the tone of your post on here though I suppose.

Miss Magpie - I'm going to try DD2 on goats milk formula now, the reflux formula didn't make one iota of difference, she's still puking everywhere!!!! Plus the naturopath on the sunny coast told Craig that nobody should be drinking cows milk - we should all be on goats milk (yerrk dunno bout that!!) But its supposed to be more easily digested (and closer to breast milk) probably why its so friggin expensive.

Best be off again, DD1 is whinging (loudly) and DS is jumping all over the place cos DH is on the phone - and thats what they do!!! No wonder I never call any one..

Merry xmas to everyone - enjoy your bubba's first!!!

[Arimeh]

How do you know if your baby has reflux? I know they are unsettled and scream/cry a lot, is that the only way of telling?

Whoops sorry, missed this. Usually the classic signs are they pull on and off whilst feeding, they raise their knees to their chest and are very unsettled, you usually can't get a lot of sleep out of them, they usually wake up when you put them down, DD1 always made disgusted looking faces whilst feeding - she would have the stuff come up her throat and back down again etc.

Silent reflux is all the reflux signs - but no chucking - hence the silent part.
I hope nobody else's bubba has it cos its not nice to see bubbas in pain like that

[Alison1973]

Hi Arimeh - thanks for that info on reflux! And I agree, best not post anything on BB about formula or we might get shot down in flames alright ! LOL I'll continue to BF for now and comp feed when necessary. Like you said, when mummy is happy, so is bubby and as long as they're getting food to grow that's the most important thing!

So what you're saying is we should all go buy a goat for Christmas and do the milking.......imagine that, from expressing our boobs to expressing a goats LOL! All the good stuff is expensive huh.........typical!

[~Stoked~]

Arimeh, Archie does pull off the boob a fair bit... not every feed though, say about half of them, usually i'll stop feeding and burp him but sometimes he won't burp and be happier to stop feeding. At the moment he is sleeping soundly on the bed by himself (making a liar outta me!)... Does the silent reflux happen at every feed or can it happen every so often??
Thanks!! xx

[Arimeh]

Kymmy - reflux happens at every feed, cos they usually throw it all back up again. He could be pulling on and off for a few reasons, one is wind, so you could try wind drops (we use infacol here for wind) or it could be something to do with bfing (ie, your let down is quick or something like that - don't ask me, I'm sooo not an expert with bfing lol)... there are a few other things it could be. DD1 wasn't just pulling off the teat (cos she was formula fed from birth) she was also crying as she was doing it, and it took about an hour to get 50ml into her. She was also feeding every 2 hours... it was pretty trying, especially with a then 19 month old terror running around!!!

My LC said the other day with reflux babies, smaller feeds more frequently is a thing to try as well. Trouble is, DD2 decides how much is right for her, and at the moment, smaller feeds ain't what she likes!!!

Stubborn kids I have...

Alison - mate if you get a goat, you could milk enough for all of us.. LOL.. I'll send you my pump to help out.. bwahahahaha