Babies born~November 16-31st 2009 #1

[~Stoked~]

Hello Ladies!!!

Telly: with DD i always said i'd never get her ears pierced until she asked... well she asked when she was two! I explained to her that it would really HURT (she was clever too, just like Kaili!! I'm not biased either! haha) and she said she didn't mind so we got them done and she didn't even cry! Got both ears done at the same time though, and these days you can use Emla cream so they don't even feel a thing. I got mine done at 5 and didn't cry either.

Archie was really good yesterday, a bit clingy still but at least having a few decent sleeps, anyway, last night he cracked it and was screaming for two hours! Ended up giving him Brauers Colic drops and he eventually went to sleep! Slept til 11am this morning though so can't really complain!

Anyway better go take down my xmas tree!! DH washed the floor the other day and literally picked up the whole tree, decorations and all, and put it outside the back door! haha! So we have this fake tree in our garden! I'm thinking of decking out the whole garden in them... at least it will be green all year round out there!

Thinking of everyone and hoping your babies are good to you!!!
Oh and Telly, I agree, I can't even go to sleep at night because I am up staring at Archie cos i love him soooooo much!!!!!

Kym x

[~Serenity~]

very eventful night at my house last night...

jose was drinking at my dads yest and had a few more at home then suddenly he started getting upset saying never buy him this beer again cos it was the beer his drank drank and he used to bea him and his sister with the bottles and a horse whip etc then he started crying then suddenly got really angry and he snapped.....started carrying on about how he has to protect his kids ...at first he was angry at me saying i was trying to take them but then he went into this mode like i wasnt even there and was really paranoid talking to himself saying he has to protect them from his dad(got deported) cos his dads spirit was here and he could see his dad clear as day in the house....(dad molested his lil sis from age 6-12)so he had to protect his girls then i would try talkto him and he didnt recognise me and would call me an evil spirit trying to trick him and take the kids and say he could see me sitting on the couch...sometimes he would recognize we sometimes he wouldnt and hed see me on the couch..i called my step mum to come over and she was holding hunter on the couch ....at one pointhe got frantic looking for hunter and were saying hes right here on the couch and he couldnt see him and started yelling his name looking for him........well the night ended with the cops taking him to the hosp....the dr reckons its cos he was so druk...level of .13 but hes been this drunk before and he never did this i think something happened and he just snapped....

on the plus Serenity got fed at 8pm got put in the car and taken to my step mums and slept through til 6 am so very happy with that

[Snowy Love]

Gosh Mon! How scary! Hope that never happens again.

Kymmy - the idea of fake trees is tempting - I have the belief that plants shouldn't need my help to live - hence the number that have died in my care. My mum gave me a bay tree & an aloe vera plant at Xmas & I said you do remember what happened to the last bay tree (poor thing died of thirst).

We went to my Step-mum's 60th yesterday and saw her family who I haven't seen for about 8 years. DS1 had a wee accident in his car seat so my Dad took Mr I inside while we got the seat cover off. When I got into the house I had to search to find Mr I - one of her sisters had comandeered him! Vaguely concerned about the amount of smoke residue he may have inhaled over the day, but only very vaguely concerned.

I managed to spill my lunch all over myself, but Mr I didn't spew on me once which is surprising as he normally overflows after a feed and then brings a bit more up a bit later. Today he's back to normal programming!

My sister made a huge black forest cake for the party & I got to take some leftovers home - so good!

Dad tells us yesterday that my uncle who we saw the weekend before Xmas has whooping cough. And DH (the hypocondriac that he is) says oh I was wheezing last night, hope its not whooping cough! I think its just the same cold that DS1 had last week, but that's the way to make a mum worry! Must make doc's appointment for the vacs tomorrow.

[nattyfred]

Hi ladies!

Snowy, Hi! I had a good laugh about your story! on NYE I flashed a bit of boob at our visitors after a bf, Dh and I saw it and had a bit of a giggle but if anyone else saw they didnt say...not sure how long ole boobie was out for tho...lol..Als good luck with the vaccinations, panadol worked for us but man its awful to hold them down for the needles I cried lol...

Heavenly wow I hope Jose is ok? Are you coping on your own or is he back home again? I am jealous of Serenity sleeping through although I think you may have missed he benefits of it after all the excitement...Keep us posted..

Kymmy isnt it awful when they scream and nothing seems to work? Dh usually mentions hed like to take her to the hospital but I keep having to explain that it is normal (even though sometimes I wonder lol) Imagine if you rocked up and they just laughed and sent you home to make nois in your own house lmao..

Arimeh Happy birthday to your little man, I dont think we are friends on fb, my nme is Natalie Frederikos - White if you want to befriend me lol

Damn... V woke up so this is where the posting gets sloppy lol....

Madame I hear you because I struggle with 1 lol dh will have to wait a while for the next i think...

Oh Telly that sucks about your bestie moving...Hopefully it will give you an excue to travel to see her. Id like to get Vs ears done but dh is horrified so i wont bother just yet..she has plenty to cry about as it is

Hi Ubba, How are you coping?

XX to everyone else

Got an email from Mikayla, she is doing well She amazes me with her good grace constantly...Im not sure Id be as kind as she has been if the tables were turned...

Ill come back and tell you what we have been up to later as someone is just too wiggly atm...

xx

[Arimeh]

Natty - I'll put a request through Way to go on the boob flashin hehe

Heavenly - wow sounds full on - are you still together?

Well we had 3 kids last night totally wired from yesterday's party and junk food, so none of them would settle down (although of course DD2 hadn't had any junk food). DD1 was up to her normal tricks of just playing in bed instead of going to sleep, DS was too wound up and wouldn't crash, and DD2 wouldn't settle either!! I was nearly ripping my hair out with frustration and all DH would say was "see.. this is what stops me from wanting #4 - we might get another bad sleeper!!"

They all eventually got to sleep around 9pm I think - DD1 was the last to settle though, even though she was so freakin tired her eyes were rolling back into her head with every blink, she still felt the need to put her foot up to her ear and muck around

We decided not to wake DD1 for a feed at 10 (since she hadn't been asleep for a while) so I fed her around 7.30pm and she woke up at 2.30 - finally got her resettled at 4am and then DD1 was up at 5 so DH got up to her and then DD2 woke me at 7 - DS got up then as well. So wasn't too bad, still want more sleep though.. haha

Nearly time for another feed I think - plus better go play with the kids, even though they are watching whatever is on TV at the moment!!

[~Serenity~]

Yeah were doing good once he sobered up abit at the hosp he was fine I just have no idea why he would snap like that I guess all the memorys of his horrible childhood just set him off

serenity has a blocked nose so didn't sleep well last night

[tellytubby]

How bizzare Mon... that would have creeped me out! I hate scary things, can't watch ghost movies etc, so i would have been well and truly spooked. Yep it definately sounds like he loves you guys a whole lot - which is really sweet I love it when men get protective of their families, nothing sexier! Glad he's ok tho, and you guys aswell. I believe in spirits and ghosts (hence the reason i get so spooked easily), so you never know - maybe he really did see something? especially if its not the first time he's been that drunk.

ALison glad to hear your holiday went well and that amelia is smiling heaps. Theo is smiling constantly, hehe, isn't it just the best? He is starting to make the gooing noises when i talk to him - melts my heart Head into the BFing threads, they've got heaps and heaps of tips for increasing your supply too, but i think the main one is the more amelia feeds - the more milk you will create. I make sure i have a serve of alphafa (sp?) a day, which supposidly helps, and also a glass of activate. Oh also a beer before bed is another. Have a squizz, i'm sure you'll find some things that will work for you.

Oh Theo is awake - finally!! been waiting for ages!! i need to knick up to the video store to return DVDs

xx

[billykat]

hi girls....

random question.. how big are your babies front fontanel??????? Ellas was about the size a pinky could fit in at brith (was told this was smaller than usual) and has gotten slightly smaller since. i have to take her to see a pediatrician to disgus it. as long as it stays open its perfictly fine and it may just be that she has a small fontanel... but the fact it has gotten smaller is not a good sign and if it closes she would need surgery to reopen it. this hole thing has me soooooooo freaked out!!!! but just out of interest how big are your babies front fontanels??????????

[~Stoked~]

Billy: Weird cos i was just googling fontanelles cos Archie's feels like it is a bit sunken. His is about the size of a ten cent piece (but in a triangular shape iykwim?) I was worried cos yesterday he didn't really have as many wet nappies as he usually has and my boobs were quite engorged, even though i didn't notice that he was drinking any less.. i am pretty sure he was still drinking the same amount. So i was just starting to panic too but i have given him boobies since and it doesn't feel as sunken now.. but still it is a bit worrying. I think i'll feed him as much as he'll drink and just keep an eye on it cos he doesn't seem unwell.

I was just reading about vaccinations.... probably shouldn't have done that cos now I am questioning whether i want to get him immunised!!! It is pretty scary stuff.. is everyone getting their bubs done? DD is immunised, i never researched anything back then. I definately see the good in it but after reading about it just then i am starting to question it!!! AHHHHH! What do i do???? It says some of the vaccines contain things like cells from aborted human foetuses!!!!!! WTF!? Amongst other yucky things. I will do some more research me thinks....


Went food shopping today and it was a bit of a disaster! Had Archie in the wrap and he cried about halfway through the shops so i had to hurry the rest of the way and pull him out of the wrap.. so i had to push the trolley with one hand which is really hard to do when it is full!!

Mon: That is very strange about Jose! I hope that never happens again!! You must have been so scared...

Sorry no persies but i gotta go cook dinner before Archie wakes up!!!!!

x x x x

[tellytubby]

Argh finally got Theo down. On his belly. Again. Oopsie! It seems to be the only way he'll settle these days..

Natty V is just GORGEOUS! Dark hair and blue eyes, just lovely! Dad will be fighting those boys off with a wooden bat in years to come, haha.

Oh - and about the baby bjorn - most of the reviews are about how bad they are for the baby's spine (because bubs just sorta hangs there by its armpits basically)

They must have changed them Arimeh, cause my Baby bjorn is nothing like that at all. Theo is supported by his bum, You can put there arms out the little arm holes if you choose, but Theo places his hands against my boobs and kinda nuzzles into his hands/boob area iykwim. But yea, doesnt sounds like the one i bought at all, he is totally supported by his bum, and then the padding supports his back and body. Actually it seems very similar to the one in your FB photo, except there is a spot for his legs to come out.

Snowy i hope Mr I sleeps well tonight, poor little man. ANd i hope your arm doesn't end up totally dead! mine was a bit achey for a couple of days, and DHs was like it for a week (but he also gets bad cases of man sickness, and needs to harden up, lol).

Alison hope your visit went well too, what a PITA that your boss wasn't even there!

Billy i checked theo's. Its probably the size of a 10cent piece (same as whoever said that, lol, bad memory!). But 10c piece in a funny shape iykwim. I really hope all is well xx

Okay, i'm off to check out the target catalogue - they have a baby sale on and i'm feeling rich... ish.. hahaha

xx

[Arimeh]

They must have changed them Arimeh, cause my Baby bjorn is nothing like that at all. Theo is supported by his bum, You can put there arms out the little arm holes if you choose, but Theo places his hands against my boobs and kinda nuzzles into his hands/boob area iykwim. But yea, doesnt sounds like the one i bought at all, he is totally supported by his bum, and then the padding supports his back and body. Actually it seems very similar to the one in your FB photo, except there is a spot for his legs to come out.

Oh well thats good that they have changed them! A few years ago they were really really bad, hence all the reviews, and to be honest, I haven't looked at them since that. But if the company is taking it on board and making the changes to make them better - awesome! Kudos to them

[Alison1973]

Hi Girls!

Hi Arimeh, I have a Baby Bjorn as well and like Telly said it's very supportive, I'm quite impressed actually - they're also very supportive for the wearer, I suffer bad shoulders and neck so had to be careful hence why I didn't go a sling as such and this has great lumbur support and is very comfortable, I definitely think they've improved them in the last couple of years. I finally put mine together and tried it out tonight and it's ever so comfy, can't wait to use it now I can - I'm at the 6 week mark so can get back to normal! Wahoo! Guess that means I should get exercising and get rid of this gut and extra 8 kgs, urgggh! Still waiting for the fenugreek to kick in, I just managed to express 30 ml which is good for me but I want more!!!!

The visit into work went great, was there for over 3 hours though as it took ages to see everyone, they all loved Amelia and she was so good today. Everyone said they miss me too which made me feel nice. I thought I'd feel funny and get all sad about missing work but nope ha ha - was quite happy to visit and go home with my little girl. I'm going to have to go back in in a couple of weeks as my boss was on leave and also one of the other guys who gave me a lovely present was on leave and he'll be disappointed that he didn't get to meet Amelia so I'll go back in.

Anyway, catching up with my swimming girls tomorrow - got a busy week this week and it's getting hotter as the week goes on.

I must go check out these pics of yours Natty, will do that now.

Hope everyone is well. xx

[madamerogers]

hey girls

ali- thats so sweet that everyone at your work loved amelia-how could they not! she is just beautiful! be good to see your boss too. sounds like a good group. are you planning to go back to work soon?
I have an ergo carrier and i just love it more so coz i got it for a steal on ebay! and also i made a wrap style one like a hug a bub- which is ace too. harper could stay in there snuggled next to my bb's all day! Good luck with increasing your milk supply too- wish i could share some of mine with you, i have loads! i soak through 2 breast pads daily and harper constantly coughs and splutters each feed. a real pain actually. hard for her to feed well in the beginning and im sick of having wet patches on my tops all the time

arimeh- as you can see im addicted to slings like you, but may not have such a collection! i just love them! as do our bubbas! i hear you on the close age difference. tully is almost 18 months so theres under 17months difference between. its tough. he is a bit little to totally understand and is just into EVERYTHING! but he is a real sweetie and i think too young to be really jealous. But i hope their closeness make them great friends and playmates when they're older. a friend has her 2 a bit closer and they are 5 and nearly 4 now and are just the best of friends. and maybe our number three will be close too! i'll be 28 this september and want another by the time im 30- not that it really matters. so that will be 3 under 4 if it happens that way! then i'll comvince dh that we should have 4! i never wanted more than 2 kids, but since these 2, i don't think i ever want to stop! he he definately 3 though.....
mekelti and my tully must be very close in age!

hello my dear telly! every time i read a post from you to me i smile! ok. have to admit it- i just love you telly! i think we are so similar! imagine you, me and natty in the back of class! he he troublemakers!
anyway- enough with my telly obsession- i too get all soppy looking at my beautiful bubbas. wow! look what we created! and i too would cut of my leg with a rusty butterknife for them in a heartbeat. amazing what you feel for a child. now i understand why my folks are so soppy to me still and im 27!
Harper is fairly clingy to me too atm and is actually sleeping on her tummy atm. whatever works sometimes huh.....
your fb photos are just devine too- what great baby makers you two are! kaili is such a stunner and theo! heartbreaker! i just love my boy- i bet you do too. What is your background?? where does kaili get her gorgeous skin and dark eyes from?
i'm in a shopping mood too and feel a bit rich too. our business is doing well and its a safe feeling having money for when you want. I have been browsing ebay a fair bit at the moment which can be dangerous.......but i did get the cutest country road dress for harper! love it!
oh and lastly telly my love- come visit your friend in melbourne and ME!!!!!!!!!! now you have more than her to just visit! Ubba is in melb too!!!!!
and i feel the same with tully as you do with kaili. he has been plonked inside in front of the telly since about 38 weeks coz i was just over it. poor little darlin. no wonder he acts up sometimes. i just dont know how to have quality one on one time with him with a 4 week old harper!

snowy- hope mr I feels better from his needles. DH had a bit of a cough and was a bit sore from his booster. i hate seeing the little ones get needles- i sook more than them i think! hope all is well with you guys!

heavenly- hope serenity shakes those sniffles and sleeps a bit better- and i hope jose is all good now. What a terryfiying time. scary just for you but more so with the kiddies around. very bizarre, but sweet to see how protective he is. hope it never happens again.

kymmy- hope you are going well. We had ds vacc and will have harper vacc too. hope you aren't too torn with your decision. fontanelles sink when they are a bit dehydrated- so it was prob just near feed time- harpers feels like that sometimes too. hope all is well

billy- hope ellas fontanelles arent worrying you too much, im sure its just a natural diference. how are you going with 3 kiddies?

natty- yay for V!!!!! im so glad she is settling a bit better. H has been a bit clingy and i feel as though my arm is going to fall off if i hold her anymore! feels like all day! No wonder my booty is still so fat- i barely move off the couch these days!

J'ds mum- im hearing ya with the poor un loved older child! i feel as though all i do is yell at tully sometimes. and everything he does annoys me too! im sure they will be fine. i hope you get through it ok and if you have any tips.....i'd love them!!!

hi to everyone else! hope you and your bubbas are well!

afm- well harper is 4 weeks old now! wow! where does that go??? feels like just yesterday i was 39 weeks and so over it!
we saw MCHN yesterday and harper is doing well. i was worried that she wasnt feeing enough- she'd a super speed feeder- barely spends 5 mins on a side sometimes- must be an effeicent sucker. She is a little porker now- up 700g in 2 weeks and another 1.5 cm taller! im so glad- it was hard with such a tiny fragile little one! A dr friend of ours says i must be a good cow! LOVE IT!
she has been a little unsettled with wind pain but infants friend has been helping.
i do feel a bit house bound though. its hard to get out with 2. havent done the grocery shopping with them yet. kinda dreading it coz tully has not co operated the last few times we went before harper was born.
having a bit of a hard time with my post baby body too. you all know what its like i guess. just hate it. hate how i look and feel. they are worth it but i just feel a bit down.
we are closing the cafe for 2 weeks after australia day. boy are we looking forward to that! we are going to go stay by the beach for a week to get away. poor dh is so tired. he works so hard. working for yourself is tough. tully will love the beach! he loves water!
last weekend i went by my self with the kiddies to echuca to stay with my folks at their holiday cabin that we have gone to since i was 12. being there was good but the 2.5hr drive was tough by my self. tully loved the river and we just had a few relaxing days.

think thats enough from me! what a rant

love
madame

[Alison1973]

Hi Girls - I've been down at the farm house all weekend so have missed heaps!

On the earrings debate, I guess it's "each to their own". Personally I don't think I'll get Amelia's ears pierced until she's a bit older, my niece was 5 and I think that's a good age. I wasn't allowed to get mine done until I was 12 and then I wanted my second holes done when I was 15 so of course to p off my mum I got some ice and a pin and over a few days managed to pierce my own! Of course I only did one ear because it hurt too much to do the other (LOL), it ended up pretty infected too but managed to keep it. My mum didn't notice until I was 18, funny! Even funnier is I didn't get the other side done until I was 21, just keep forgetting! I rarely wear earrings in the second holes these days.

Hi Mon - wow that's bizarre about Jose, is he ok now? Sounds like he was having some sort of reaction to the alcohol - almost like he was hallucinating, how scary. Very sad about his upbringing too poor thing. My father was a bit violent too, he used to throw things and hit mum, luckily I was too young to remember a lot of it but I remember enough. Not nice to grow up in that environment but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

AFM - I think my roids or fissure (I do think it's more likely the latter) is getting a bit better with the cream, doesn't hurt as much but I still look forward to the day I can go to the toilet without grimacing! Sorry if TMI. I'm going to get myself some fenugreek today to try and increase my milk supply, it's been ok but still not good enough to avoid the formula feeds at nearly every feed now. Not that I mind doing that but I really want to continue BF'ing as much as I can but still happy to do both. Some is better than none huh! Amelia is doing great though, she's 6 weeks old today, I can't believe how fast the time has gone, does everyone else feel the same? It just feels like yesterday that I was waiting for her due date to come, it's quite scary how fast it's going. She is really smiling heaps now, especially when you talk to her, it's so adorable it makes my heart melt. I can't wait for the gooing sounds to go with it, had a couple but nothing obvious. She's also still sleeping well at night, getting on average 4-5 hours now, got 6 again last night, she went down at 9.30 pm and woke at 3.30 am, then fed and went back down until 6.30 am. It makes such a difference when they sleep a little longer, hope it lasts!

Today I'm off to the OT, haven't been since before I had Amelia and I'm hanging out for it, my neck, back and shoulders are so sore from BF'ing, most probably my bad posture, I'm taking Amelia as the therapist wants to meet Amelia, I've been going to her for 5 or so years, she's excited to meet her. I hope she's quiet while I'm there LOL! Then I'm off to see a friend for an hour. I have a busy week this week, hope it's not too much for Amelia, now I can drive AND lift the pram I'm going to start getting out more. Tomorrow I thought I'd take a trip into the city to see my work crew - might catch the train though, hate driving into the city, parking alone sux! Then Wednesday catching up with my aqua class girls for morning tea. We're going to discuss doing a mums and bubs swimming class, I really need to get into exercise now I can, I've got 8 kgs to lose! Who said BF'ing made you lose weight, I'm still waiting!!!!!!! People say I don't look like I need to lose it but I've got 8 kgs, got a pudgy gut still and I think my thighs are looking a bit sad ha ha.

Oh and I think I might have gotten AF, my bleeding stopped nearly 2 weeks ago and just a few days ago started again, it's not very heavy though but I'm sure it's proper AF as I have some slight cramps and my boobs are a bit sore - although what's new there ha ha! I didn't think you got AF while you were breastfeeding so there you go....just shows how much I don't know!!!!!

Sorry, I have totally rambled on, hope you're all having a fab day with your bubs. xx

[~Serenity~]

yeah hes fine now....doesnt remember any of it he was hallucinating he said he could see his dad standing there clear as day and he had to protect his girls cos his dad wanted to rape them, he would also see me sitting on the couch and talk to me and pat my imaginary head when i was right infront of him and say i was an evil spirit and he could see me sitting on the couch....i just which i knew why it happened its hard to prevent something when you dont know the trigger....the dr kept saying it was cos he was drunk but hes been that drunk before and usually passes out.....who knows just glad to have the normal one back...made me realise how much he loves me and the kids though

[nattyfred]

Hi! this is just a selfish one now seeing as I am just so excited lol!!!!

I think soon Ill be able to have a pee in peace because....

V is letting me put her down!!!! Woop! She sat in her bouncer for 1/2 hour and sat in her swing today too while I put some groceries away...Oh yeah...we went shopping too!!! I knew I just had to get out and start doing stuff and Id feel more confident.

I bought an ergo carrier today too and she promptly fell asleep in it so I could get on with the shopping...Unbelievable.

I have started putting her in the cot for her day sleeps as she is getting long and the tetra bed wont last too much longer so thought Id try getting her in her own bed at least for the daytime lol..I tried to get her in there last night but she kept cracking it so at 130am I gave up, took her into our bed and in the semi dark I see this little face looking up at me an smiling and silent laughing...I couldnt believe it lol...

Oh happy days...(sings)

xxx