Babies born~November 16th-30th 2009 #4

[Snowy Love]

Hi, I'm supposed to be working (esp since Mr I is asleep) so I'll be quick. I got a skin check this morning (all good) and thought seeing I was down the street I'd get Mr I weighed. THe nurse said Oh he's got two teeth - I hadn't noticed the second one come through. He's 7.5kg, no wonder my arms get sore!

I don't think you're going overboard Alison - I'd do anything to avoid my kids getting gastro - even clean my house :P. After DS1 got it the first time I started washing the floor at least twice a week, which I should start again seeing Mr I now rolls all over the house.

Congrats on the HD's Ubba, thats awesome! I am in awe 'cause I did uni by correspondance with no children and only got a couple of HD's and a couple of D's - managing HD's and 3 kids and making those clips and everything else - you're a champ. Love the clips - if only we had a girl - but I'm not going back for another.

Better get some work done, otherwise I'll have creditors screaming at me for payment.

[nattyfred]

Hi again,

Ive got a little time before my friend comes around for a walk around the neighbourhood. Were taking this weight loss thing seriously together and its nice to have someone whos on the same page...I even got her interested in bb, shes the only one of my friends who hasnt looked at me like I am a desperado going online for friends and advice lol.

Anyhow like I said earlier V and I have to get her sleep sorted out because the only decent (ish) day care here that has the hours that I need (early mornings) put their babies to sleep

* On their own
*On their backs

Thats a loooong way from what we do here, fed to sleep and rocked, put into bed on her tummy....

So I freaked oput the other day and rang Tresillian Sleep centreswhich run here in NSW. I have initially said NO WAY to Tresillian as I know they do cc but I was desperate. The lady was really nice and I guess just told me some truths I think I needed to hear, so much so that I was willing to let V cry a little to see if she would even go down...Cut to doday when she went to sleep within SEVEN minutes of being put down. A few grizzles but nothing major although at times she has made a hell of a racket and thats where I try something different like rolling her onto her tummy which she prefers, offering a dummy etc. She will take the dummy if she is desperate but not otherwise..

I have rationalised all this because I am just not coping with constantly needing to rock her off. DH cant do it so I never get a break. I havent had a break from it the entirety of Vs life. I love her so much but I sometimes feel there is nothing ;left for me or my relationship with dh.


So why do I still feel guilty?

[Alison1973]

Hi Natty, I'm about to start self settling too, I also cuddle/rock Amelia to sleep 95% of the time! A friend sent me a long but interesting PDF file about self settling techniques. If you have an email address I can email it to you...let me know.

[Arimeh]

to Natty - don't ever feel guilty about anything you do. We do things for a reason, whether things we need to do for our own sanity, or because our life just depicts it to happen.

I do think the daycare will help get her to sleep though, mine have always been really great with the kids and their sleep. Oh, and mine are tummy sleepers too, but manage ok at daycare to sleep on their backs

I'm pretty lucky with both my girls, they have both self settled at one point or another though, Eden is going through the self settling stage at the moment and its awesome. Its very helpful when I have the two other two running amuck around the house.. LOL Not that she is sleeping much though, she has a few short naps during the day and thats usually about it. She's had 2 sleeps today, and we're just about to leave for Aricyn's swimming lesson (his first one - I'm so nervous!) so DH will have the girls at his work for an hour or so while I'm alone with Aricyn - so poor DH - it will be Eden's nap time by then, AND Kelti hasn't had a nap today.. bahahahahah!! Ahhh I'm so evil....

Better to - helllooooooooooo to everyone

[Alison1973]

Hey Ubes - how do we order your gorgeous clippies? I FB'd your link to my swimming and mums group friends an hour ago and already one of them has asked how to order as she absolutely loves them. I told her to FB you a message but that I'd also ask you. Get ready for some orders me thinks! xx

[nattyfred]

Awww thanks for your words ladies, they mean a lot in times when I doubt myself a bit..I sure have missed being able to chat properly.

Alison thanks my email is white.natty@gmail.com
Ill take any advice I can about her sleep lol.

Mel at least your dh will give it a go, although mine is gradually getting more confident.

Oh does anyone have skype set up? Im doing mine as I have a webcam in the laptop and it would be great to video call and show our kiddies lol

[Arimeh]

Oh does anyone have skype set up? Im doing mine as I have a webcam in the laptop and it would be great to video call and show our kiddies lol

Oooh yes yes yes!!! Pick me pick me!!! *waves furiously*

[*suz1*]

Hi Girls,

Natty - I'd love to set Skype up, just need to work out how to do it I guess. Good luck with the self settling, got to get a bit stricter with that here and not let Ryan fall asleep feeding.

Ubba - Congrats on the HDs!

Alison - Well done with the weight loss, but bummer about AF arriving. I used to always lose more the week after AF than any other week, so the next week is a good one for you. I thought gastro was passed on by skin contact, so DH should be fine if he washes his hands properly.

Mel - Hope Aricyn's swimming lesson goes well! Does he like water?

Snowy - 7.5kg's a healthy size. That'll build up the arm muscles! I didn't have biceps until I had kids

Telly - I hope for your sake that Theo takes a bit longer to work it out before he gets really mobile. But, JIC have you crawled around your house and baby proofed it?

Kym - WTG on the 1/2kg!

Craig was a bit better today so we did the photos. He was a bit 'flat' compared to his usual self, but wasn't grizzly and didn't muck up. Ryan is 5 months old today and as always was the perfect angel. We didn't manage to get many of the boys together, but will have to wait to see how the pics turn out. DH has said it's my Mother's Day pressie, which is good 'cause I was going to suggest it. Food diary is working well, but no exercise today as we had to leave early for the photographer.

[madamerogers]

oh hello my lovelies!!!!

sorry to have been mia for a while. im sick again and feel miserable and have just been so so busy!

oooohhh natty- skype!!! i too wave furiously to be picked but feel a bit embarassed
i dont know why, just seems wierd! although i'd love love love to "meet" you girls!!! what a great idea- im in!
i agree with everyone else about not feeling guilty on whatever you choose to do. do what you want, think and need to do. I feel terrible when we opened our cafe when tully was 5 months old, of course i worked there, had my mum sit there almost all day with him, i worked, fed, worked, fed ect....meanwhile mum sat, did a few dishes, sat, walked him around the streets in the pram..... but i know we did it for him. for his future. and now we are doing well enough to support him. it is whatever you need to do missy. boy! have i missed your hilarious posts since youve been sans laptop! xox oh, and miss v is so super adorable!!!! well done too on the weight loss, ive been terrible lately, but am so disgusted in myself today at tullys swimming- urgh me in swimmers- yuck- that im making my self get back on the bandwagon. and i know too how you feel with not having a moment to yourself with v- harper is the same. fine with me, handed to dh, cries-back to me- fine. as horrible as it may seem- i'd actually love a day to my self- no kids, to just do stuff i'd like- by myself.x

mel- i hope youre feeling better. so so so hard being sick with kiddies. i suffer terrible migranes *touches wood* and i havent had a big one since before tully, and a friend of mine with a ds the same age as tully is 12 weeks pregnant gets them so so so bad. i dont know how she copes, i know i couldnt. Well done to you too on the walking and gym!! i just need to stop stuffing my big fat face and move a bit more and i hope a bit will drop off. I too would love to skype with you and your gorgeous kiddies- seeing as kelti and eden are an almost identical gap as my poppets!

snowy- wooo hooo mr I!!! TWO toothy pegs???? what a champ! i hope he is a happy little camper. how has he been teething? harper has been chewing madly on anything for ages but i dont know how soon it will be. i have been able to see a tooth since very early on on her bottom gum, close too, but she seems to want to chew hard, like really hard way up the back like where molars are supposted to be! i have no idea! and good on you for trying to work with the kiddies. i try but it just never happens, so its midnight sewing for me!

oh ali- i hope amelia doesnt get gastro. oh god its hard with a little one. tully had it a few times within a few months and gee does your washing machine get a workout...its so hard to see your bubba sick.
freakin IL's huh....its a tough place to be stuck between dh and them huh. especially when amelia is the reason. we have friends who own a pizza restaurant a few doors up from our cafe and they do great pizza. oh, and fab gluten free too!! you have to go there when you come over here to visit!!!!!!!!!!

kymmy- how do you loose 500g and eat creme eggs??? i look at them and tub it on. dont you lose anymore gorgeous girl, you are fabulous! and master archie! gosh is he delicious! gee you two make beautiful babies!

oh my telly- rockin already! that son in law of mine! he's itching to crawl down here to my harper wow! it goes too fast huh. i want my babies to stay babies a lot longer too. even my bubba boy tully, who now sleeps well in a big bed, understands so so much and feels like yesterday that he was born is a big boy. oh im a little sad about it all. Hows your ww going? i officially suck at it. i feel horrible about my self but it still doesnt motivate me. how have you done it??? youve done so well! i say im going to stick to it and last a month

ubb- well done missy! HD's?? three gorgeous kiddies AND cuteclippies??? super mumma alert! good on you. im so so happy for you! i told loads of my fb friends to like you and i think quite a few did!!!! i hope it goes really well for you! x

suz- hope craig is feeling ok and ryan pops a tooth soon poor bubbas. it must be terrible, teething. im glad we dont remember what it was like. i just wish we could make it better. and yay for you on the weight loss this week too! well done! you girls are so good. i just love food too much. thats my trouble. born to be a chef i guess. i hope your photo shoot went ahead. im sure it will be gorgeous x

hey alicia, billy, mon and anyone else ive terribly forgotten

so, for me,
Harper is improving. they decided it was bronciolitis. nothing we could do. just ride it out. terrible when you dont know what to do when she is coughing her lungs up. as long as she was feeding and having wet nappies, all will be fine. gotta love great dr's as regular customers. she too has been really clingy lately. i feel like i dont even pee all day sometimes, let alone get anything done- ie housework, then doing stuff i want to totally goes out the window. its hard with tully too. lately he has been a right turd when i try to do stuff with him, i give in and turn the farkin tv on. i had a bit of a terrible mummy breakdown this week, realising that he jsut watches way way too much tv. how do you girls with more that one kiddie do it?? what can i do with a nearing the terrible twos 21 month old? god its hard....oh poor me.....*slaps herself in the face* sarah, there are plenty of people in the world worse off than you, silly cow
any hoo
so ive got this darn cold back, i think im a bit run down, stressed and tired. we are having more staff issues at the cafe....i feel like i have been a single mum lately too. dh is so tired coz man have we been busy. we must do something right to be this busy, 80 dozen eggs, 220 litres of milk, 22 kg coffee, oh and thats just one week...... not bad for a little country town huh?
and so we have been putting tully to bed at 6- same time as his usual 7 i guess, with daylight savings changed now, and dh doesnt get home till after 6. so then we eat, he has wine-sometimes more than i like and we bicker over stupid things, and he's asleep on the couch at 9. so i have a few hours of adult conversation a day. god, no wonder im blabbing on so much here. lucky you guys love me
anyway, registered new business name!!!!! opened business bank account!!!! see lease tomorrow!!!!!! oh dear...what am i doing??? am i mad??? no way! im so excited!
so have decided to go more down the kiddies and mummas route. make a fair bit of stuff myself, and source locally, hand made and vintage stuff too! woot! ill keep you all posted. man, its gunna be so cute! can't wait to show you all photos!
anyway, better go, have more planning to do!!! oh and i'd love any input from you gorgeous mummas on things you'd buy! thanks girls
love you all heaps,
x madame x

oh, and
p.s- it's called




Hennie and Fox....

cute? i think so!
xox

[madamerogers]

suz, you must have jumped in there and posted whilst i was writing my essay,
glad the photo shoot went ahead, hope you get some lovely shots out of it

oh and mel, i forgot to ask how aricyn's swimming went! i go with tully and our mums group. we went today actually. he just loves it and man is he getting good! we started when the kiddies were 6 months. man- that means ill have harper in the water soon!

oh and on the self settling- sometimes harper puts herself to sleep, either in her rocker or the bassinette, or even on the floor on her play mat the other day, but mostly we walk around, patting her, or she feeds to sleep. do what ever you guys need to i say. they learn when they are ready. i was still feeding tully 3 times overnight sometimes at 8-9 months and he got into a really good pattern with self settling at around 11 months. we mostly fed to sleep and co slept as we had just opened a business. we needed to be rested so we did what we needed and i dont regret a thing. i too hate the "you're creating a rod for your own back" sayers. uurrggghh
sorry, man can i talk tonight
x

[JDsMum]

Hi everyone!!

Thanks for the b’day wishes all that time ago….have been super lazy lately – been reading but not posting…..

Madame – Congrats on the new business and looooove the name – super cute!!! You are superwoman doing all that – you and Ubba could go into business together and make millions with your work ethic!!! JD watches way too much TV over here as well and I feel terribly guilty sometimes…..he is obsessed with Cars at the moment so we play a fair bit with them but I’m always on his case about being quiet etc when Abbey is having a snooze so the poor little blighter doesn’t get much of a chance…..he’s lucky he has a pretty involved Grandma so he does a fair bit with her so that gets him out and about…Hope you start feeling better soon too…..

Suz – Finally I will say HI!!! I’m Shayna Delaforce on FB too if you want to add me as a friend. I have Abbey who went 5 months on the 21st April and JD who is going to be 3 in a couple of weeks……Abbey doesn’t sleep so I’m pretty much running on an empty tank most of the time but I guess she’ll get better one day!! JD is a pretty good kid considering what he has to put with (a tired cranky mummy most of the time!) but is super loud and loves being all over Abbey which isn’t always good!!! Your boys sound lovely and fingers crossed Ryan stays the perfect angel!!!

Hi Natty – Having sleep issues here as well – Abbey gets bounced to sleep pretty much every time now….never used to be like that…she used to drop off on her own or when she was having a feed but now it’s the ball or me rocking her….I really didn’t want to get her used to that (JD was like that and it was a bit of a nightmare…..) but it seems to have happened….

Mel – Hope Aricyn’s swimming lesson went well!!! JD has been going for a while but we took him out during summer as he was being naughty and he swam a fair bit at my dad’s place so he had enough exposure to water but we have just started him back up and Sat was the first lesson back – little nightmare….wouldnt get in at the start, then was splashing another kid in the face, trying to jump in when the teacher wasn’t there….went on and on….I felt like I could jump into the pool and grab him he’s that naughty!!! Good on you with the gym etc – you will be running triathlons and all sorts before you know it!!

Ali – I would love that PDF file as well if you have a chance!! My e-mail is newsomshayna@hotmail.com Hope Amelia is still OK and hasn’t caught the bug!! Congrats on the weight loss too!

Snowy – I cant believe Mr I has 2 teeth now!!! My god….I don’t think I can even feel any of Abbey’s yet…..he’s a nice weight too….

Ubba – Love the clips and will get some as soon as pay day rolls around….you are very creative and talented…I wish I could do something like that but I just don’t have the knack for it.....I used to always want to be a florist but I’m not the creative type so I think I would probably suck at it!!

Hi to everyone else and anyone that I have missed…..

AFM – Abbey is not sleeping well at all…..she’s never up up but whinges enough that I have to get up and see to her. Some nights it would be between 8 and 10 times and then I usually give up and sleep on the lounge with her so at least then I don’t have to get out of bed to sort her out….what happened to the good little girl that was sleeping through about 6 weeks ago??? Shes completely gone and has been replaced with a little whinger!! She’s still only napping about 30 – 40 mins during the day at each bedtime and it does my head in cause I cant get anything done….this morning I put her down, came in here to finally post on BB and I look out 5 mins later and she’s kicking around…..arrrrrghhhhh!!!! The only time she’s happy when she’s up is if she’s in the Jolly Jumper (that doesn’t last too long either!) or being carried around….screams in the car or if she’s left on the floor – even in the shops now so I’m scared to go out for too long with her…..man, I hope this stage ends soon….if she slept during the night I could cope with the day but not both!!

Gave her some veggies last night as I thought that might help but it didn’t. She loved them though so will keep on it. My step sister told me to mix some Farex through it to thicken it up and give her some protein to see if that helps so I’ll try that today..

She’s still only rolling to her left and can sometimes get back or keep going but she’s no where near sitting up or crawling or anything…..is she falling behind???

Talk soon
Sorry for the long me post!
xoxoxo

[nattyfred]

Just quick as Im heading out....

Shayna no she isnt falling behind. Theyre all different and Abbey will probably have a turn at being the 1st to do something and youll feel better then lol.

For those who want to skype Im so excited!!! I tested it with my friend this morning and it works lol..

Look for username billynattyfred and add me and we can chat!

Suzi Im Natalie Anne Frederikos - White on fb if you want to add me

GTG shopping xxxx

[Alison1973]

Hi Girls!

Hi Shayna/Natty, I've emailed that sleeping document to you, hope you find it helpful. And Shayna, Amelia rolls from back to tummy but can't go the other way which is very annoying because if I try and put her to sleep awake she immediately rolls onto her tummy and after a few minutes cries because she can't get back! Grrr. Abbey isn't falling behind, all babies do things at different times, crawling is anywhere from 6 months on average. She could just one day do it so don't worry. I don't want Amelia to crawl yet anyway ha ha.

Hi Madame - I'm glad Harper is on the mend, poor little thing, it's so horrible when they're ill, I've been dreading it myself! Wow you are one busy family! It's great your business is going so well, make sure you take some time out for yourself though. I do love the name of it too, VERY cutie.

Hi Suz/Mel/Snowy - hope you are all well.

AFM - well I think Amelia was definitely off colour yesterday, either that or she was just completely exhausted from our massive weekend. She had 2 x 2.5 hour naps and didn't finish her last 2 bottles, her last bottle she only took 100 of the usual 210 mls and fell asleep. I was so worried about her, she didn't have a temp or anything but she just wasn't her usual self all day. Of course last night she tossed and turned all night and kept rolling onto her tummy - not sure if it was because she slept so much during the day or because she wasn't feeling great but I ended getting up and down all night to roll her over onto her back again so now I feel completely shattered today! It's funny how AF knocks you around and then add broken sleep onto that and it's worse! She seems much better this morning, smiling and talking again and she finished her bottle so fingers crossed she's past whatever it was. I'm trying her at a different swimming place this morning, this is just 30 minutes of nursery rhymes but they do allow you to put the babies under, I'm not sure I'm ready for that yet. Has anyone else done that? Anyway will see how this one goes, my other swimming I usually do on a Friday has been cancelled the last 3 weeks and she can only go for another month until 6 months anyway. The one today is from 4 months up to 12 months which is good, and it's only 5 minutes from my place.

Oh and I got my professional pics yesterday, got the framed one on the wall and it looks gorgeous. Will put some of them on FB in the next few days.\

Anyway, best run, Amelia is due for her morning nap. Hope everyone is well!!

[JDsMum]

Thanks Natty!! I know she'll get there....makes me laugh thinking about the Zoolander remark you said ages ago....so true!!!

AF arrived for me for the first time in 14 months this morning....hate having them back though they dont give me any troubles.....just a pain in the butt!!!

Abbey is here in her Jolly Jumper nearly going the roof she's jumping that hard!! Loving it....makes all the sleepless night worth it I think!!!!

xoxoxo

[Alison1973]

Hi Shayna - doesn't AF suck, lucky you being the first, I'm onto my 3rd! lol Mine give me cramps for the first day, yesterday not so bad and today they're on their way out I think which is great as it was quite heavy the first day so was worried I was in for a long one! I did not miss having AF while pregnant!

[Snowy Love]

Alison - we did the swimming thing with nursery rhymes with DS1, started him at 6mths, with head under water. We'll start Mr I in August as our swim school has a break from mid-May till August. To get him ready for going under when he has a bath I say "Isaac, ready, go" then put water over his face (I wash his face at the same time), it trains them to close their eyes on the command, so hopefully we'll have no problems in August. DS1 loved swimming from 6mths, but I stopped going for a few months over winter when he was 9 or 10 mths and then when we went back at about 12mths he took a few weeks to get back to liking it.

[tellytubby]

hey ladies
just a super quick one

alison me too please. definately keen on a read. will decide if i should take that road... still very iffy tho. seeing as we still cuddle dd to sleep most nights telina_jacobson@hotmail.com as for swimming, yep we did head under water at 6 months. they led her into it tho, tipped a cup over her head a couple of times, then we had to do it at home, then the next week she went under. does that make sense?

Shayna - i think YOU are the super mum! Giving credit to everyone else, lol, YOU deserve a damn pat on the back! Your little miss sounds terribly familiar.. my dd was identical i think. If it makes you feel better, she still sucks to get to sleep. hahahahahahaha! sorry!! xxx

natty - wish i had skype damn crappy old computer. would love to SEE you all! Welcome back to the world of addiction too btw. damn bb, the reason my house constantly looks like a bomb has hit it ! grr!

sarah - hennie and fox... nawww!! super beautiful! It even sounds like good quality clothing, does that make sense?? reminds me of max and tilly brand - which is gorgeous. I just know you're going to be sucessful - simply because you can hear the passion in your posts... someone with that much passion with what they do - is definately going to make a killing! glad to hear our beautiful girl is feeling better xx look after yourself

suz - glad the photos went well, can't wait to see them!

mon, alicia, billy, snowy, bella

afm - theo is teething. he is crying crying crying at just about everything! I thought his ear infection was back, took him to the dr, and nope - they're fine. So thats all i can put it down too. I gave him panadol twice yesterday, and once today.. i don't like to but he is so sick poor little guy. man i hate teething!!

Got a call from church, theo is getting baptised on the 9th of may, mothers day. so we're just doing the service then back to our home for a bbq. we sorted the godparent dilema too, she's agreed to let dh and myself be the actual godparents aswell. got my sis doing up someinvites as i type! yippee to having a graphic designer for a sis! haha!

love you all
xx

[Alison1973]

Hi Telly - sure thing, will send it over tomoz on email for you. Don't worry, I still cuddle to sleep, I'll get there eventually but right now I don't care, Amelia sleeps all night and wakes up happy so why does it matter?

Sorry for no persies tonight, just a quick one as DH has hogged the computer all night and it's now late.

Amelia is still not herself today, how can I tell if it's teeth or sickness? Yesterday she slept heaps, was restless last night, I went into her a few times to roll her off her tummy although she didn't wake up as such but was very vocal in her sleep. Anyway, she had her bottle this morning after not finishing her last one last night and then I took her to the new swimming, they don't make you submerse them until the 2nd week. Anyway, when I got her home she was very upset, I fed her, she fussed through the whole bottle again, then went down for another 1.5......(she also had 1.5 hours in the morning), then fussed through her afternoon bottle and then did 2 very runny poos in a row (bath material), definitely diarrohea (sp?).........she seemed ok after that and had another 1.5 hr sleep, she finished her last bottle but I gave it to her in 2 lots with a 30 min gap just in case - the nappy leaked onto the floor while I was racing her to the changetable that's how bad that one was. Mum said it's probably teeth but I'm worried she's caught the gastro bug off DH's nephew last weekend, I'll be bloomin mad if so. Anyone else's bubs go off their food and get yellow runny poos when they're teething - she was chewing on her bottom lip a lot today. I feel upset about it because I don't know what I can do for her, I hope she's better tomorrow poor petal.

Anyway, sorry for no persies, will write more tomoz.

xx