Just a quick one as looking for little bit of advice as to what you think I should do.
Am currently (in theory) giving Sam four milk feeds per day. Has BF when he wakes and then has bottle after he wakes from morning nap, he then has another bottle before he goes down for afternoon sleep and then has another bottle before he goes to bed. I have only just changed the last feed of the day to bottle (did so last week after the biting instant which was just too painful). One of the reasons I've kept it at 4 rather than changing to 3 is to make sure he'll take enough milk. From what I understand he needs to have been 600-800ml of milk once he is having 3 solid meals. The max that get him to take in a bottle is probably 180ml - often times it will be between 130-150ml which would mean he just wouldn't get enough if he was only having 1 BF and 2 bottles. I have tried not giving him the feed after his morning nap but it made no real difference to the amount he took in the afternoon so that was when I reverted back to the four per day.
He has been up and down with regards to the amount he is eating at the moment. Brekkie seems good as he will have scrambled egg (1 egg - yolk and white) & toast and will often have yogurt as well but lunch and tea are hit and miss. Can't quite work out if it is due to teething, too much milk, becoming a little bit more independent and maybe looking to start to feed himself - we've been experimenting with finger foods and he is now at least trying sometimes to put the food on the tray into his mouth - missing a lot of the time but having fun! or not eating that much just because its just a phase. I'm not worried as I know he will eat if he is hungry but wondering should I really look at dropping one of the milk feeds. I don't think he is getting too much milk but wondered what you think and know that some of you have dropped the 4th feed and why you did.
Hope it all makes sense and sorry long winded but didn't know what to leave out!
AM x
PS say in theory that Sam is on 4 feeds per day. He gets another BF if he wakes in middle of night but I find this night waking only happens when he hasn't eaten much during the day which means he is hungry or so I figure anyway.
Hiya AM,
I don't think there is a wrong way to go about it - and I'm sure there are plenty of people out there giving their bubs 4, 5 and 6 feeds per day still. But my advice is - if he's not really into eating alot yet, and he wakes at night when he hasn't had enough during the day then keep up the 4th feed - at least then you know he is getting all the sustinance he needs, its healthy for him, and he will sleep well.
I dropped the 4th bottle (we now do 7am, 2pm, 6:30pm) about 3 or 4 weeks ago because it was getting to the point where T would only have 100ml at a time, so i figured he didn't need it, and in fact one day i forgot to give him a bottle before his sleep and he was fine (bad mummy!). This didn't really increase much when i cut the 4th bottle - but then suddenly he started drinking again about a week later - I'm suspecting it was a growth spurt, which we are just coming out of now. Now we are generally giving him 200ml at each feed but he often wont drink it all.
K xx
ps. i have just been in to Tadhg about 6 times in the last 15 minutes while writing this (to fetch the dummy)- and he is still laying in his cot talking and throwing his dummy! Go to sleep!
Gotta be quick as I need to try to start on some work while Miss Iz is napping!
Sangie - so you do 8 hours from home a week and find that works well? I'm really looking forward to starting (this arvo/evening!) and hope I can manage 10 hours around Izzy's sleep. When do you work most of the time? We did book our holiday and we're off to Exmouth then Broome (10 days all up) just after Izzy's birthday. I can't wait! We've booked a villa in Broome with our own plunge pool and alfresco - it's divine!!!
Kelly - poor little Tadhg! He is such a trooper with all the ear problems he's had. I hope things get sorted soon. We *might* be heading to NZ for a conference DH has been invited to (he *thinks* it's in Auckland) so if it happens, we should meet up (if you're keen that is!). I'll keep you posted
AM - totally agree with what Kelly said - great advice. Izzy sometimes has 3 milk feeds a day, sometimes 4. Sometimes she'll have an extra feed in the middle of the night (formula) if I think she needs it (Saturday night was a prime example of that!). I don't honestly bother working out how much she's had each day as I know she will make up for it with food or she'll drink more milk when she's not eating as much. I just go with the flow Izzy drinks a lot of water too so I know she's hydrated enough and between food and milk, she gets enough nutrition. I BF Izzy first thing in the morning but I doubt she's getting much off me any more (she was belting my left boob on Sunday then just gave up and hasn't shown much interest in it since - bye bye Lefty!). In the morning, I make up three bottles. Two x 200ml and one 100ml. She often won't finish a 200ml bottle so I put whatever she hasn't had in the fridge and give it to her later. She usually gets through those three bottles each day though (500ml) so I'm happy with that. I tend to just guage what she's eaten (solids) and how much water she's had an adjust her milk need accordingly, if that makes sense.
I'd be in no hurry to drop a feed yet. Just run with it for now. Sam will probably surprise you and drop one by himself, even if it's just random to begin with.
Thanks for the advice girls and for coming back so quickly.
Like I said was pretty happy to continue and let Sam decide himself what he wants but is good to be able to get a sanity check to make sure I'm not doing the wrong thing. Will just plod along and see what happens.
Had an interesting day today as it looked like Sam decided the sleep that he had between 5am and 8am was his morning sleep so he wouldn't take his morning nap. He did remarkably well being able to stay up until 2.15pm when I eventually got him to go to sleep for a whole 30 mins! Wasn't tired or grizley just awake. Did manage to re-settle him though and he slept for 2 hours then before I woke him. Fingers crossed we won't have a single digit wake up call but I won't be holding my breath!
Had to chuckle at T chucking his dummy luckily we don't have that issue as Sam never had one but he chucks his toys around good oh and has full on conversations with them in the morning. It very cute. Hope the work situation resolves itself - not knowing what is going to happen is the worst I think. At least when you know you can deal with it. Best of luck with the ENT specialist visit. Is it looking like gromits or is that what this visit will determine.
Best of luck with your work Taurean hope the old brain isn't too rusty. I hate to think what mine is like though will need to work out pretty soon what i'm going to do. Very envious of your holiday sounds fab - will look forward to the photos!
Hi to everyone else. Gotta go and help get dinner sorted.
Kelly, the construction cake sounds cute! Ethan's party was threatening to get out of hand so I've decided we are going out to lunch lol! I've also decided to only have close family and friends as I think that will be more enjoyable for him. He tends to freak out a bit when confronted by strangers so I think a huge party with lots of people he doesn't see on a very regualr basis will freak him out. Poor T with his ears, he sounds like a real little trooper though.
AM, Ethan has three bottles of 200ml each and he also has three really good size meals ( I swear his tummy is a bottomless pit!). I'd just go with the flow hun and maybe offer more if he isn't eating well and less if he does? I dropped the 4th feed a few weeks ago because Ethan was only having less than a quarter of it. He hasn't missed it.
Taurean, yay for the holiday! Yes I do around 8 hours a week and it is working out well so far. Some weeks I can manage 10 and other weeks is much less (4 or 5) and they are usually the weeks when DH is away for work. I get the biggest chunk of work done on a sunday evening. DH does the dinner/bath/bed routine with the kids and I work from around 4pm until 11/12pm (or when I can't see the computer screen anymore lol!). Then I can usually manage an hour here and there during the week when the kids are sleeping.
Speaking of work, that is what I came on the computer to do! Ciao for now!
After a week of Miss A thinking that 10-11PM was a good bedtime, I had her in bed at 8pm tonight. Unfortunately it is only 10pm and I have already been in to resettle her twice
I just can't understand why this kid won't sleep! She has had days when she has been up from 7.30am and doesn't want a sleep until 4pm - then drops off for 20 minutes and is up until 11pm! It is driving me mental! She was also resisting being put in the cot so she has now lost her feed/rock to sleep privileges and goes straight into the cot to go to sleep. It was probably well past due anyway - she is nearly one now!
Not much happening on the tricks front. She can walk 15-20 steps across the room, but she would rather sit and grizzle until I hold her hand and walk her. But if there is something she is desperate to get then she will take off on her own. She really needs to be mobile, if she isn't going to crawl then I hope she gets walking properly soon.
Is Sanchez still around? Hope V is sleeping better for her now.
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