Done JM are you expecting the girls to be a bit later getting their first AF? I got mine at 12, Mum was around the same but her sister was only 9 and my sister was around 14 I think, so I have no idea when to expect my girls to get theirs, but I will give them The Talk about 10-11ish I think.

MP that would have been lovely even despite the weather. I'd love to go down there for a holiday too. I hope your DH can get his back sorted. You just can't function when your back is so sore like that.