Trill, TBH I absolutey *dread* going there with her, I do it a couple of times a year and it's basically a day (and then usually some) of histrionics. Sometimes I just go in there and drag some stuff out myself when she's not here, which isn't ideal because she doesn't learn to do it herself then. I think you might be right - there's an inherent girl-ness to the problem - people tend to give girls things with lots fiddly bits whereas boys tend to get large chunky robust items. Even so, I don't think I will have the same problem with Missy E because she likes tidiness and often puts things away of her own accord. Whereas DD1 will swear that she has cleaned up her room and you go in there and there's still stuff all over the place! LOL