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Ohhh BIG HUGS Nelly, I've been there, i know how hard it is. Dont beat yourself up over it. Just do what you need to to get thru each day. It WILL get easier, i promise!!
Gigi - good on you for making the effort, but yes, how very strange for you...what are you going to do? are you staying for bilby? im sorry, i cant remember what you last said you were doing
Big hugs nicola, dont stress about the juggling! Just enjoy the time...but yes, it is a nervewracking time just breeeeathe xxx
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TL - i have to stay, most of the time i just get on with life, but sometimes it (the staying) gets to me more.
bilby has mild thrush i think, and we still don't have a gp (ours retired earlier this year). i'm dreading taking her a unknown new gp with something like that. and on a saturday.
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i chickened out TL, she stopped showing the signs and has stopped complaining about it. Next time it happens i will take her to a gp. I kept worrying, what if i am imagining things and it's not thrush at all.
I do that too gigi!! it mustnt be anything too much or im sure you wouldnt be questioning it...does that make sense?
we had a small drama here yesterday. evie decided she'd put a load of washing on for me, and me being an overtired and sick mummu, had forgotten to put the lid back on the dynamo bottle. so after calling out to evie for a minute or so i realised she was in the laundry and chi was with her. so i go in to find her with a capful of detergent pouring it into the machine (at least she got the dose right ) and chi sitting on the floor with the open bottle of dynamo with it all around his mouth. Well, i completely freaked. i didnt know what to do or where to start!!. i rang poisons information and she said to wipe his mouth out with a wet washer and try and get him to have some drinks of water but that he would be screaming if he'd had too much. and when i thought about it, he wouldve been covered in detergent if he'd tipped it up to try and drink out of it. ANYWAYS, she also said he could have a cough and an upset tummy...well thats no help since he has a cold and is all yucky anyway today he still has a barking cough but im sure thats part of the cold...not the detergent-ening. so not a good mummy moment for me....
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Yeh, you can have all the "secure cupboards" and child safety locks in the world, but it all relies on humans to do it EVERY time, and you can guarantee, the one time you forget/are too tired/get distracted, is the time your child will decide "this looks interesting!" or in Evie's case "i wanna be like mummy!".
i hope Chino is back to his normal self soon.
I had an "awful mummy" morning today, feeling guilty about bilby being in childcare. i know it's good for her, and she gets there, what i can't provide her with (space, outdoor playing areas, chickens running around, clear indoor playing areas, kids to play with, play equipment, trained early childhood workers) but god i still get the guilts so bad. everything i can't give her in a tiny unit with no outdoor play area.
Its great to see everyone's still online on this forum.
The twins are 5 1/2 months old and that's how long i've slowly been going insane... Ella is a precocious 2.5yo with daily tantrums which adds to my insanity. I've been diagnosed with PND
The girls are still BF and are growing nice and round. There are so many rolls on Hana thighs it takes ages to dry her after a bath! Very different personalities. Hana is super smiley and Mae is chatty but serious. Mae likes to sit and watch the world where as Hana likes to wriggle around and loves tummy-time. We've had a week of rolling but then it stops...dont know when they will do it again.
Ella is talking and talking and talking up a storm. Interestingly she's started telling fibs. She's trying to control her world. Not eating, not wanting to bathe, not wanting to do what we want generally...
Gigi - I've got the guilts too. Paranoid I'm not giving the girls what I gave Ella at that age. They are still not sleeping well during the day but thankfully they are almost sleeping through the night.
Hi Ann!!!!!! Your girls are just beautiful! Im sorry to hear about PND, one day at a time and dont be hard on yourself! 3 under 3!!! evies started telling fibs too. i was reading about it the other day, its basically the same ol' boundary testing and also because they want to tell us what they think we want to hear. its all part of the fun i suppose!
Gigi- you too, no mummy guilts! you do a great job and the fact that you put bilby first by sending her to kindy because she loves it. i think its good for them to have an extra outlet and just something different to do
No more mummy guilts ladies! we all do the best that we can, we wouldnt feel guilty if we didnt. we always think we should be doing more and getting more done etc etc but we're only human and have to look after ourselves too....always easier said than done
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this is what i TRIED to post last night, site wouldn't let me, so i copied and saved it to try again today, well tonight now, nearly midnight! (where does the time go?)
three posts - and you have three children - seems fair enough Ann! LOL.
great to hear from you again. Sorry to hear you are going thru PND, that's a cow of a thing. Great that the bf-ing is still going well, i can only imagine how exhausting that would be to do with twins, i was exhausted just with one! Do you feed them both at the same time, or separately? If that's too personal, forget i said anything, i just tried to imagine "how would i physically feed twins?". Cos i used both hands to hold bilby to feed her. Or would you have to do football hold and use a pillow on each side of you?
bilby is still requesting breastfeeds, but now (86cm tall, well it's pretty short for her age, but you know) she sits on me, straddles my hips. I think childcare are busting a gut to say "when will she stop?" but they don't dare say a word. Their version of breastmilk, is that it stops at six months, so we've always been on their scale of "strange". (started childcare there at 20 months).
Bilby and Ella sound alike - apart from the talking bit - about wanting to assert themselves, not do what they are asked etc, Misses Independence. Do you think the lying is part of getting attention (no longer the only child) or is that usual developmental stuff for her age group? bilby LOOKS so cheeky, i'm sure she would be telling whoppers, if only she could talk! (well in english, not toddler babble that no-one understands, and every 2nd word is baby, or daddy).
I remember in the 45 degrees heatwaves, when bilby had THREE big rolls of fat on each thigh, i could NEVER get those creases dry! so i cheated, and used Gaia baby powder (cornstarch) to MAKE them dry LOL. All that roundness is great insurance, for if illness strikes. (apparently bubs lose weight v.fast, when ill.)
Congrats on getting twins to sleep thru the night, esp at only five months old, thats great.
Three under three, wowee woman, i think you are doing GREAT.
WONDERFUL TO SEE YOU BACK HERE ANN! (but totally understandable, that it's all been too much, up til now).
bilby got to spend some time with some oldies today. i went to a community centre sewing class (they have a creche!!!) and afterwards, there was a community lunch in a hall. so bilby and i went along, it was full of retirees from what i could see. we sat at a table with three elderly people, bilby acted really timid, clung to my legs, behind my chair, REFUSED to sit on a chair by herself etc. but gradually she warmed to them, and they to her, and before long, she was playing peekaboo and poking out her tongue. She NEVER gets the opportunity to be with any elderly people, so i was pleased this opportunity presented itself. i was a bit bored, but i think i will make myself go to this fortnightly lunch thing, just so bilby can have exposure to elderly people. broaden her experiences.
We've had sick twins here too. I've been on the edge of being sick and just managing to avoid it by taking gallons of vitamin C and echinacea tablets. Hope he feels better this weekend.
Gigi - thanks for the kind words. My friend is a naturopath and has been treating me and hopefully i will turn a corner on this slump. Its a pretty dark place without friends.
I twin feed the girls. Otherwise it takes an hour to feed and change them. I got a special twin feeding pillow from the ABA and they are held in the football hold and they lay under each breast to feed. They are great feeders and they just get on themselves without me latching them on.
It took a while to teach Mae to BF since she was in ICU. I still get angry that the stupid nurse told me I had to feed without taking her feeding tube out of her throat! Of course the poor thing refused to feed and gagged everytime she tried. But now she's the stronger feeder of the two. I used the stronger feeder (whichever was that was that week) to alternate between breasts and keep up my supply. Now they have on designated boob after working out their preferences.
They do wriggle a lot during bfing but I wrap them up or else they slap/scratch/poke each other in the face. I use to have to put a magazine between my breasts to stop the hand wars that go on. Once it starts...milk and tears everywhere!!!
Dont know how long we'll keep it up. Everyone asks me when I'll stop as if its too hard but honestly it is EASY. Bottles are hard.
We started solids last week and that has been tricky to get organised. Mae is a fast eater while Hana hasnt quite worked out where to put her tongue.
Ella just adores them. Loves to hold their hands and pat them on the head. She would love the audience i think.
Anyway gotta go. Hope everyone has a great weekend.
ann its so good to see you in here!! i was just looking at your blog the other day!! the girls are just devine and i love that your still feeding them super super effort! im sorry about the PND but im glad your getting help its tough.
tara how did chino go at the paed with the milk allergy????
gigi awww thats cute of bilby to be playing peekaboo!! sounds like she enjoyed the attention. its awesome that your feeding her still, pity its not the norm these days in this country!
ARM sophie is going great !!! started swimming lessons by herself today shes such a big girl been inthe pool all by herself! the lessons for the past 2.5 yrs have paid off, its great to see her so confident in the water. we found out tuesday that she was accepted in the the 3 yr old kinder group we wanted so off to kinder 2x 2hour sessions next year! where has the time gone
shes going great at toddler group and recent ly learnt her left from her right!
shes quiet tall now 97cm and 14 kg, shes like a string bean! tall and slim!
miss millie is also great, very placid like sophie was, still wakes once a night for a feed, but nearly 6 months now!!
Jols - Ella also just learned her left and right. She loves singing. She brings home a new song everyday its amazing what her little brain can pick up. My little sponge. She's not too keen on swimming as she hates putting her head under water.
Mae and Hana also still have ONE feed in the night. 11pm they have a big feed and then up at 6.30-7.30am So we cant complain. Have you started solids yet?
Our girls are so close in age. 4 days between Sophie and Ella and 3 days between Millie and the twins!
Been invited to a wedding in Melbourne and I Love to go but I'm a bit anxious about travelling with the girls. Thinking maybe I cant go.
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wow, learning left and right before three! that's amazing!
Ann, thanks for explaining about how to feed two at once. Excellent that there is a special bf-ing pillow to help you do it. I used the football hold in the early stages, until bilby got too long. Are you able to feed them when out of home? like at the shops? When i was first learning how to bf, i NEEDED my comfy sofa at home, my special pillows and found it really hard to feed when not at home. i would do it if i had to, but got sore arms and back.
Sounds wonderful that both of your girls latch on so well.
i can understand your intrepidation at travelling interstate with three very young children. i think for me, i would need AT LEAST to have one adult per child, to do that.
AJP, congrats to Sophie for swimming like a little fish, way to go Sophie.
bilby has been 86cm (since April) and 12.5kg, still got the chubby face (i suspect from the sucking to get the breastmilk), even though she eats like a sparrow.
I agree, WHERE has the time gone? i've been checking out kindy options too.
Yeh TL, i have been wondering too, if you heard any more about Chino's allergy test.
We get the results of the two part speech therapy assessment back soon, looking forward to finding those out. I feel like i'm living with a mute child. She is constantly trying to communicate with me (and everyone else) with mime, gestures, acting it out. So few words and most of those i have to translate for other people e.g she says "boo" and points at at blue item, i know she's telling me the colour. Other times, boo means other things to her. So many letters just don't come out. Boops instead of boots. Gar instead of Car. Dah instead of Star.
i wondered if her liking and chewing up (for 20 mins) a tiny bit of meatball, (made of mince) but not being physically able to swallow it, might have some meaning, as to why so little speech, but the speech therapist had no idea what to suggest, when i told her about that.
the lovely Gymbaroo teacher has just had breast cancer surgery, so i doubt we will be going to any more Gymbaroo classes. Can't believe this has happened, she is the loveliest person and teacher, really inspirational, the kind of teacher you don't often come across. Has made "a difference" to SO many children and their families.
Wow Ann! What a beautiful adventure youre having! Good on you! I would be nervous about travelling too.... we're meant to be going to a wedding on saturday and thats just down the road but im now thinking i wont go..chino wakes every hour or so at night so whats the point in me going. even if DH goes to him at nigh he screams so i just dont think it will be worth my stress.
AJP - Yay on Sophie's swimming! Not to sound like im boasting or trying to top you - im just nodding in agreeance - evie started on her own a lil while ago and i finally now feel confident about her water safety lol she dives in on her own, picks things up off the bottom then bounces off the floor and swims back to the edge lol what a lil dot but at least i know she can save herself!!! chino just splashes and yells at the water but still loves his lesson with mummy!
Ohhhh the saga of the allergy!! SO paed rang me and said 'no immediate allergy to egg, milk, soy or wheat' BUT it could be either a clinical or delayed allergy. but basically no allergy. so i thought fine, so i tried a little more cows milk and he also had some cheese, broke out in a rash on his chin straight away and also vomited and vomited, and did his usual choking turning purple thing. so f**k yes, i think its an allergy!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyways, ive started him on some diluted soy milk and he seems pretty happy with that, its been a couple of days and doing well. so now i'm trying to wean him...but i am also sad cos i will miss it and since there wont be anymore babies for me....im kinda holding on to that baby feeling
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) and chi sitting on the floor with the open bottle of dynamo with it all around his mouth. Well, i completely freaked. i didnt know what to do or where to start!!. i rang poisons information and she said to wipe his mouth out with a wet washer and try and get him to have some drinks of water but that he would be screaming if he'd had too much. and when i thought about it, he wouldve been covered in detergent if he'd tipped it up to try and drink out of it. ANYWAYS, she also said he could have a cough and an upset tummy...well thats no help since he has a cold and is all yucky anyway
today he still has a barking cough but im sure thats part of the cold...not the detergent-ening.
Ella is a precocious 2.5yo with daily tantrums which adds to my insanity. I've been diagnosed with PND
super super effort! im sorry about the PND but im glad your getting help
its tough.
!!! started swimming lessons by herself today shes such a big girl been inthe pool all by herself! the lessons for the past 2.5 yrs have paid off, its great to see her so confident in the water. we found out tuesday that she was accepted in the the 3 yr old kinder group we wanted so off to kinder 2x 2hour sessions next year!
where has the time gone
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