You are all talking routines, I hadn't even thought about a routine yet. Charlotte is feeding 3 hourly but she doesn't have a routine as such. She does sleep a little longer at night but I do seem to be getting up 3 hourly but I am getting up when she stirs, not when she cries. No doubt she will get there eventually. Congratulations to everyone who is managing to get their bub into a routine.

I started to write my birth story the other day and walked away to tend to Charlotte and my computer died on me so I lost it all. I will try to start again tomorrow before I forget it all. It is quite an emotional experience writing it up.

I am having problems expressing. I tried using a hand pump but it didn't work so I may try hand expressing. Isn't it messy hand expressing? Do you do it into a bowl?