Kerrie, my ovulation time was always 14 days before Kat and stupid me thought it would be the same after I got my first AF. I didn't even think about the fact that it still had to settle into routine again and that I could be fertile when we did BD as I was half asleep. I was busy with Kat (she was/is a reflux baby) and wasn't even paying attention to CM at the time. Dh woke me up and he was half asleep when we bd'd and concieved. So much so that he asked me the next morning if he'd dreamt it or not....I said if he had then we'd had the same dream! Then found out I was pg.....so we know it wasn't a dream!