There is no need to respond to perceived offense with offense.
There is no need to respond to perceived offense with offense.
I agree. Whilst I tried to point out that I thought some comments were offensive, name calling is not necessary. I can see why topics like this rile people up, but really we don't need to be nasty to each other. State your claim fine but leave it there.
Just my 2c.
Boobaloo, I really don't think this thread should be turned into a thread about arguing over opinion (and I'm not one for quoting and pulling apart posts), but if you feel the need I'm happy to discuss it further with you privately
Maybe we should try to get back on topic.
And if anyone feels that something specifically in this thread is offensive or a personal attack please remember the little red and white icon to the top right of every post is the report function and everyone is entitled to use it. And if a moderator feels it is inappropriate it shall be edited.
niliac, i stated my opinion in my first post, and i complied within what the thread was about. i have recieved comments made about my opinions and have since defended them, as is my right to do so - i have not tried to make this thread a battle of opinions, i've simply defended my own.
Okay - modified to accommodate all audiences.
I'm off to make some milk![]()
Last edited by Nelle; June 23rd, 2009 at 09:55 PM.
Just wondering if there are any of us, who as a CHILD, practiced a different religion to their parents? Or while living with their parent, practiced a different religion to their parent, and whether any issued arised???
oscar - I practiced a different religion to my parents...but as I said earlier, neither of them were overly religious to begin with, dad certainly wasn't.
Mum was quite Catholic, and had very little understanding of/for or interest in learning about anything else...so I chose not to talk about it too much. I didnt need her understanding or approval, and I actually quite liked the thought that nobody knew much about what I believed
Will be back alter to address other things![]()
I went through a phase when I was about 13/14 where I decided I would try and immerse myself in God's Word. I wanted to be Christian, I wanted to belong to that, I wanted the hope and love it offered. I tried very hard, began attending a Pre Vat II Catholic Church. That lasted for about 12 months.
I then began to realise that i was pretending? That something was amiss. That I was not getting a clear picture and that I was finding I was seeking not the Word, but the Faith.
I so deperately wanted something to believe in. I had a pretty heavy time in my teens and really wanted to believe in SOMETHING I wanted that devotion I saw in so many people of different religions...I wanted to believe like the Benny Hin followers on TV lol
So I started going to a revival church? They had a band and a big love in sort of place. Lots of arms inthe air and tears and amens - very gospel I suppose. It was great! I loved it. I felt something and it was wonderful
I think this is where I lost my mum lol She is not into all that stuff, was raised and schooled by nuns,etc and very catholic, although she didnt attend church or anything anymore.
But yeah she would roll her eyes at me - which thinking now sounds really horrible, but I understood her and never felt disencouraged. She knew I was going through a phase and knew it woud pass and it did very quickly! I didnt feel the substance.
So then I all of a sudden appeared to be with new people with new ideas whne I was about 16 - and immediately it felt right.
But you cant tell your very straight mother about the Tree of Life and Skyclad rituals in the moonlight...or about the Tuatha De Danann and Faerie...lol So I didnt.
Mum knew I held different beliefs, but it wasnt until she was diagnosed last August that we had a talk about how and what I believed, and she could understand how I was dealing and reacting to her dying through the faith I had Druidry.
I hope your DD will share her spiritual journey with you if you want that, but trust me when I say that it was not a negative experience for me. I felt the freedom to try new ideas on and see how they fit, without anyone knowing my every move, or feeling I would be judged as fickle...It was freedom and that is the essence of how I came upon the path I am one- through embracing and seeking true freedom of my mind from others.
**sorry for the epic response! Felt the explanation was necessary**
Last edited by LimeSlice; June 24th, 2009 at 02:07 AM.
I can't say that I knew anyone who had a different religion to their parents. I have to say, this was never an option for me. I actually didn't even think about other religions/belief systems until I left home. One of my parents was (and still is) quite anti-Islam/Muslim. It irks me so much how intolerant she can be and still preach to be a good Catholic.
I did, my mother (and grandmother) had turned their backs on their pagan heritage (even though my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew and had some amazing power), so I grew up with Mum & Granny being CoE, dragging me along to church (youth group was the *bomb* - the best time, hot boys, drinking, smoking, great friends), heck I was even an altar girl - it gave me an understanding of the christian path, my SIL was also catholic so I used to get dragged to church with her family when I used to visit on holidays - I love the totally pagan rituals in the catholic church (also in the high anglican churches) - which has probably lead to my current pull towards ceremonial/high magic. I've always followed my path, it has seemed totally "right" to me, as I've gotten older more things have been opened to me, more of my power becoming available, teachers arriving when I need them (like my GD group and I'm also about to start doing some sex magic)
"Just wondering if there are any of us, who as a CHILD, practiced a different religion to their parents? Or while living with their parent, practiced a different religion to their parent, and whether any issued arised???"
Yep, but I think I already answered this on for you in my first post lol. No issues, but then my parents believe in re-birth/re-incarnation not heaven so I gues eternal damnation wasn't anything that played into it.
Interesting question though, I always wonder what some people would do if their children turned their back on their parents faith. I think theres this huge expectation for children to adopt the same practice/faith, and I think that when theres no room for movement or flexibility thats when you get kids hiding their faith or deliberatly turning on things they see as connected to that faith in protest IYKWIM. I'm only saying this because it's what I've seen, and I think its interesting words for thought.
Oh interesting question Lime - I am with Bec. Unless the choices Jazz makes are causing her pain (emotional or physical) then its not my place to say she is wrong. Different isn't wrong, its different. I would ask her if she is happy, and if she says yes, and i can see it, thats enough. As long as she is loved, loving, happy, respected and respectful to others, then I would be happy and proud!
Ladies, particularly in areas as potentially emotive as this, we need to post respectfully, without aggression. Let's lift the tone, and continue to move on with a productive discussion. xo
Suse, my personal take on this question would be that I would not want to drive my child or grandchild away from me and if discussing religion would do that then I would leave the topic alone. That does not mean that I would be happy with their choice, I would probably be devastated that they have chosen to reject what I believe to be the only way to salvation and have therefore chosen eternal death (OK people, just stating what I believe, no judgement intended). Nevertheless I would continue to love them. Oh yeah, and also pray very hard that their eyes might open and they would return to the faith they were brought up in.
Thank you everyone for such honest and heartfelt answers.
One thing that my grandma said (we have discussed this in some depth), that has always resonated with me, is that 'that's why they call it faith - it's either something you feel inside or you don't.' She is very comfortable with her own faith, it guides her and strengthens her, but she has never expressed any sadness (either outwardly or by allusion) that I do not share her faith, only gladness that I have my own sources of comfort to see me through difficult times. So I have often wondered how she manages to reconcile this - perhaps she too does struggle with it internally but is very good at not showing it![]()
Christy, the passage that you have quoted perhaps is something that also resonates strongly with my grandma - she is very good at loving without barriers.
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