thread: Do you believe in evolution or what your holy book says?

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Nov 2005
    Ontario, Canada
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    :yeahthat: Great post, Nelle. Thanks so much for putting that out there.

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Dec 2005
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    Have to agree with Nelle and everyone else. There IS an absolute truth, we may not necessarily know all of it, but it is there.

    I like that we can discuss and compare our truths respectfully. It's not often that it is possible to do so.

    BW

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Jan 2006
    Melbourne
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    We all disagree, but I think many of us have come to terms with the fact that someone is wrong. And we have respectful discussion within that understanding. I mean - it's fine to say that something is 'most true' for people, but at the end of the day, when it comes to me and a Jewish or Muslim or Athiest friend - only one of us will be right - because of what our faiths are based on. Either there is a God or there's not. Either Jesus is God or he's not. He can't be God for me and not exist for someone else. It sounds like an aggressive point of view, but it's just matter of fact to me. If someone else is right, then I'm wrong. And if I'm right, then someone else is wrong. I've heard about many paths to the same God, but given that many faiths don't subscribe to that theory - even if many paths is right, that would make the faith wrong
    This reminds me of a particular Rowan Atkinson skit where he is welcoming people to Hell, but I will keep the details of that one to myself . But along these lines, because there can only logically be the conclusion that someone must be wrong, then surely any moral arguments which are based on religious teachings must be discounted? Surely only secular, logical "harm-based" analyses are the only ones capable of withstanding scrutiny? For example, if you say abortion is wrong because God says so, but it later transpires that there is no God, then the previous argument is invalid. In which case you would have to rely on an analysis of abortion which does not rely on religion. I know this is a bit OT, but this whole thread seems to be.....

    (I must disclose my athesim in all fairness but I don't think this detracts form my point. I support people having their own religious beliefs but reject strongly any suggestion that a person's religious stance gives them the right to dictate issues of morality and how that impinges on my own decisions.)

  4. #4
    BellyBelly Member

    Apr 2009
    Fulham Gardens SA
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    Well, I'm gunna keep it simple and just answer the original question. I believe in the evolution theory :-) although I'd like to hope there is more out there and that there is something after this life.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Jul 2008
    summer street
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    Thanks for the great post Nelle, and I think we will have to agree to disagree. I prefer to see everyone opinion as 'right', albeit in their own way, rather than there being a right and wrong. I think I prefer shades of grey.
    For me, to say there is an absolute truth implies there is no room for change and interpretation, and for me this is impossible and is against the very grain of our experiences as growing, changing creatures. I know many of you believe in a predetermined path, so I can see how this is a moot point, because we only change according to gods will...

    I believe life would be simpler for me if I could follow Christianity...but it wasn't for me.

    to anyone I may have offended. I love being able to share these thoughts in such an open environment.