thread: Do you believe in retribution in the afterlife?

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Oct 2010
    Gold Coast
    2,638

    I believe when we die we either go to heaven or hell and where we go is not necesarilly how much we have sinned (although while alive I belive what you sew is what you reap) but based on your relationship with christ on earth and turning from your sins, in heaven we will be different positions based on your life and we will reunite worth family and friends lost on earth that made it to heaven and be praising God, then eventually the end of the world and we will be on new earth

    Hell is a punishment but one of or own choosing, God doesn't want it anymore than we do so I'm wouldn't call it retribution but we have been given free will ti choose on earth

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    Last edited by jellybean88; February 26th, 2012 at 06:25 AM.

  2. #2

    Nov 2007
    Earth
    4,434


    Keike, thank you for sharing. Is there a limit on numbers? I once read there was? If so how are you chosen?
    Not for the ones resurrected to earth, 'After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes, and there were palm branches in their hands.' Revelation 7:9

    As for the 144,000 that go to heaven, Jehovah chooses them

  3. #3

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
    12,662

    The Quran says that hell does exist (which TBH cheers me up because I like the thought that Hitler gets a taste of his own medicine) but it also says that Allah's mercy is such that it will eventually be empty.

  4. #4

    Nov 2007
    Earth
    4,434

    Does that mean that people can work their way out of hell, Onyx? Or that eventually Allah will take mercy on them, kinda like a prison sentence type thing?

  5. #5

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
    12,662

    No. You can't work your way out of hell but eventually Allah will take mercy on you. Even if you're Hitler and you murdered 10'000'000 innocent people.

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Jun 2007
    Where Chaos is fun and plentiful!!!!
    1,883

    I like the idea of the lessons thing.. I beleive we are held accountable.. but are given the chance to constantly learn and move forward. And also are given some leeway for not being too accountable, as we are kind of kept in the dark about things, and are kind of blindly fudging our way through life.. so there is some give and take.

    I beleive in reincarnation, that we go through cycles and come back and forth (from where.. not sure on that yet...) between lives. I like to think that there can be some "time" spent between lives (in this place that I dont know what is called) to maybe learn things too... so you may die, and you may not have quite learned your lesson (coz if we all learned our lessons there wouldnt be horrible people out there and not everyone has dramatic life changing moments on their death bed where they confess all their mistakes and are suddenly a wonderful person) so there is some time in the "other place that I dont know what it is called" to have some redemption, some learning, some guidence before we enter again and take form in a life on earth. Sadly with no immediate memory of the "other place I dont know what is called" or excactly what happened there, but an essence is remembered.. and that is the path that we are set to follow for this life.. and so it goes. (Hence the blindly fudging our way.. if we could just remember and know exactly what our goals are.. it would be so much easier.. but maybe not as interesting!!!!)

    There are a few flaws in my theory... the place that I dont know where it is or what it is or if it exsists is a big one.. lol and the idea that while people are learning all their lessons, why are people even now still awful people who surely havent learned anything (besides the whole no memory of the other place that i dont know what its called).. and why do really good people who seem to not have to learn anything have really horrible things happen to them???? I understand they may have to learn some things.. but it seems a bit uneven.. and I would like to think that some people out there who are horrible and in my opinion "deserve" some kind of "punishment" for the way they treat people get something, and on the same token, I like to think that the "good" people will in turn get some kind of reward. But I dont really know who desides who gets what, and when....

    Off to ponder some more.....

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    brisbane
    2,521

    i believe in the lessons to be learnt and if we dont learn them in this life we will be back again.
    i also think that we are not always here for ourselves to learn things, but for others lessons instead. i believe we choose this before coming back each time.