Yeah I have always thought there was a fineline, and its only needed to help establish a change in behaviour and then slowly phased out iykwim? Yes I do think that some reward systems can be taken too far and can create problems but I think they can be beneficial too. Our reward is mostly praise as that works for Paris, I'm not sure what will work for Seth although he loves praise already. And like rewards I've heard there can be too much praise too, but I don't think we've crossed that line. I just think when I'm paying for every 'A' on a report card then I know I've got a problem. Moderation is the key I think... don't go overboard. And wean from rewards as soon as possible... and replace with something more realistic long term... like praise daily then maybe praise when sleep is mentioned and never in a condesending way as it is noticed by children and they hate it as much as we do. Its just that they don't know how to vocalise that and it can often errupt behaviourly iykwim? Just remember everything we do we get rewards from, its why we do it. Even if its something selfless we still get a reward even on a subconscious level. So I think the trick is to eventually teach self praise, self appreciation. Showing the feeling of accomplishment iykwim?

Sorry I'm rambling... and I've had zero sleep due to self inflicted sleep deprivation...

*hugs*
Cailin