Hi, yeah I've gotta say it hurts. A vaginal hurts before the baby comes, and is forgotten staight after, a csec doesn't hurt til after the baby is born and you remember a lot longer!! The DH couldn't touch me in the 1st stages, rocking worked then, and later he had to rub my back (and get yelled at if he stopped) he cried when the head crowned. Mum and sister were there too! :happy4u: Crowning stings like everyone else says, and i was terrified that I would scream, but just did the primal groans. Mum is a MW too, and gave me the best advice , to not fight the pain, but to ride it like a wave to work with it, not against it.