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thread: It is just not fair..

  1. #1
    Registered User

    Nov 2008
    U.S.A
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    It is just not fair..

    ..that doctors hear "breech" and immediately throw a c-section in your face without so much as a second glance. As I approach birth I feel like I am being robbed of something beautiful. With DD1 my labor went so smoothly and beautiful..I was actually anticipating this birth. How can it be fair that NO doctor over here will let me deliver my baby breech? she is even in an amazing position breech wise. I am having such a hard time accepting this and worry that I will develop PPD after birth because of this. I am also worried that breastfeeding will fail...

    I am obviously past the point of no return..but I really wish I could see the positive within this..

    Everyime I hear someone go into labor I feel so jealous. When I go into labor I will be having a surgery..not giving birth. My hospital wont even let me have skin to skin until I get into recovery. UGH

  2. #2
    2014 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Mar 2010
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    Hi....I just read this and had to reply. Have you heard of a film 'A Breech In The System' it's about a woman in Byron who was pregnant with a breech baby and no-one wanted to allow her to try and labour. This film follows her journey and the ending, (which I won't ruin in case you are going to watch it... let me know if you aren't and I can tell you) is so profound I cry every. Single. Time I watch it!!!! If you are wanting to know your options I highly highly recommend this film, perhaps you will end up with a caeser, but let it be your choice that you came to yourself through research and information as opposed to feeling like you have no freedom and are backed into a corner. Go well x

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    In my own little fantasy world
    2,946

    Have you tried acupuncture to get her to turn? It's not too late yet.

    I hope you get the beautiful you want.

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Dec 2006
    Melbourne
    3,041

    Have you also checked out the site Spinning Babies?

    If you haven't already, arm yourself with all the knowledge you can & try whatever you can to get her to turn.

    Sending you loads of hugs & spinning vibes

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Dec 2006
    Melbourne
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    *double post*

  6. #6
    2014 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Feb 2010
    Gold Coast
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    Honey, c/s mothers still gave birth. I define birth as the passage of a baby through an opening in the mother's body- ending with separation of baby from mother. Your little one is going to make her entry via the sunroof. It's not ideal, and it's not what you want (or what I wanted). But it is what it is.

    You are no less a mother for having a c/s. But I do understand the feeling of being robbed of a vaginal delivery. I feel it too.

  7. #7
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jun 2008
    In snuggle land
    4,499

    Any chance you can homebirth? Or find another doctor/hospital? Any chance you can get to Ina May's Farm for birth?

    Let's face it, the baby is breech if it comes out the vagina or the sunroof, so I never understand the rush to c/s. but then we had a vaginal breech with DS1. The most important thing is "hands off the breech". With us, the OB didnt touch the baby until he was all out. Just wiped away gunk. She may have slightly helped him turn.

    I realise with a bicornate uterus, bub may not turn. I suggest you find somewhere else to birth, or start reading empowering c/s stories and start arming yourself with information so you can get a better birth.

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Jan 2011
    Perth
    3,268

    TM I know this is easy for me to say as my baby is not breech but a CS does not necessarily inhibit breastfeeding. You can also request to have skin on skin contact after a C section. The midwife will probably say this will depend on the circumstances but you can emphasise this and have it recorded at your hospital and also mention to any OBs, doulas etc involved in your birth. My yoga instructor actually told me this - most mothers assume they will miss out on skin on skin with a CS and many hospitals do not offer it automatically but it is your right to request this, excepting an emergency etc.

    I also totally agree with forshelby - a CS is still a valid form of giving birth. Try not to feel guilty or let down if you do have one. You have still grown and protected your baby for the all important nine months and you have still managed to safely bring her into the world following that nine months. This is an enormous achievement and the product of months of hard work on your behalf. x

  9. #9

    Oct 2010
    Baldivis, WA
    2,873

    Having a C section is giving birth.

    Please don't fear them. A c section saved my life and Amelia's. Had I not had it, we both wouldn't be alive today.

    Hun, trust in the drs. They know what they are talking about.

    PND is a LOT better than having a dead baby in my eyes and if they leave her in if she can't turn herself or she gets majorly distressed during natural labour because she can't get out, then it may end up that way.

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  10. #10
    Registered User

    Jul 2004
    Perth
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    Babies can turn at the last minute. Thats what happened to me. I had a little munchkin that loved flipping in and out of breech on me. My Ob and i decided we would wait and see how she presented on her birthday, if she was breech and it was going to be dangerous we would go straight to theatre, if she wasnt breech we would go with the flow. 3am the morning i was to go in to have her, she wakes me with the biggest movement i ever felt. Got to the hospital to find out she was out of breech and that big movement would have been her flipping out of breech because i know she was breech the day before. So hope is not lost, im not saying your baby will turn out of breech but there are things you can try to see if it might. You have rights too, if you want to trial a vaginal birth with a breech baby then your caregivers need to listen to you and work with you to figure out some form of action plan. Please dont give up hope yet, knowledge is power, arm yourself with as much knowledge as you can..........research, research research.

  11. #11
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    5,235

    Babies can turn at the last minute. Thats what happened to me. I had a little munchkin that loved flipping in and out of breech on me. My Ob and i decided we would wait and see how she presented on her birthday, if she was breech and it was going to be dangerous we would go straight to theatre, if she wasnt breech we would go with the flow. 3am the morning i was to go in to have her, she wakes me with the biggest movement i ever felt. Got to the hospital to find out she was out of breech and that big movement would have been her flipping out of breech because i know she was breech the day before. So hope is not lost, im not saying your baby will turn out of breech but there are things you can try to see if it might. You have rights too, if you want to trial a vaginal birth with a breech baby then your caregivers need to listen to you and work with you to figure out some form of action plan. Please dont give up hope yet, knowledge is power, arm yourself with as much knowledge as you can..........research, research research.
    Yes, could you labour at home for a good while and wait to see if bubs might turn last minute? No one can make you go to hospital.

  12. #12
    2014 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Mar 2010
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    thats what the film i spoke about is about. a woman waiting with contractions at home until it was 'too late' to go to theatre when she got to hospital, with a brilliant safe outcome. she was armed with advice and research and got the birth she had wanted!

  13. #13
    Registered User

    Dec 2007
    Sunny Qld
    14,682

    Both mine turned after 37 weeks (close to 38) so don't rule it out just yet.

    Fwiw, I don't feel any different towards "birthing" my babies - I've had 4 births - 2 sections, 2 vb's. Regardless of how they exited, I still gave birth

  14. #14
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    in the garden
    3,767

    Well, there's still time for bubs to turn, fingers crossed. If she doesn't... I know a CS isn't necessarily desirable, but you know, mine wasn't as awful as I thought it would be either.

    And FWIW, I had one CS & three vaginal births, and my CS baby was the only one that breastfed for any decent length of time. Go figure

    I had a beautiful experience with my second, and wanted to repeat that so much. It didn't happen... I got a CS with my third and my VBAC was rather underwhelming (compared to my second labour). My point being, you can't plan for what you're going to get. Go in planning for the best & prepared for anything. Fingers crossed for you

  15. #15
    Registered User

    Sep 2007
    Brisbane
    5,729

    FX your bubba turns and you get the birth you want

  16. #16
    Registered User

    Jul 2008
    summer street
    2,708

    You've had some great advice already, so I'm just giving more best wishes baby turns, or you find an alternative.

    I know sections save lives, but an elective c section due to breech presentation in this instance has more to do with obstetric risk management, politics and insurance companies than best outcomes for mum/baby (in this example, where mum has had previous labour, baby is well position and mother desires vaginal birth).

    Pnd can lead to suicide for some women, so I don't think its seriousness should be downplayed (if that is a major concern)

    Is there really no obstetrician who will even let you labour?

  17. #17
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    central QLD
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    I really wouldn't advise you to stay home until its to late to c/s. The consequences of that could lead to a lifetime of regret. The most important thing is the safety of the baby.

    I agree you might benefit from hearing some empowering c/s stories and getting your support in place and your mind ready.

    Researching successful breech births is fine of course, as long as your willing to research the ones that went wrong also. Arm yourself with knowledge from both sides itms.

    Best of luck

  18. #18
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    pakenham, victoria
    3,660

    Honestly hun, breech vaginal births are rarely practised these days. would you rather a skilled obstetrician preform a csection that theyve done 1000 times before to get your baby here the safest way that they know how or let you attmept a VB and not know what to do if something went wrong?

    Its all well and good to say oh but noone will let me, its not that they dont want you to, its because they just havent had the practice in the situation.
    At the end of the day, so long as your baby gets here safely, what does it matter how it gets here? you will have gotten something that some of us can only dream about, a take home baby.

    You are fortunate, you know its most likely going to happen, you have to time prepare and arm yourself with knowledge, and knowledge is power.

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