That's true N2L, it really does. I has an impact in birth too but I'd rather be informed. I'm a really freaking annoying patient to have because I have printed off one of those papers to bring in my birth folder . If I can remind DH to show the MW/Obs that obese women can dilate slower and yet still perfectly safely, I have more ammo to tell them where to go. Not all information needs to be viewed as a tool for unwanted intervention... it can be useful .