also just wanted to add, that i think with a vaginal birth with a 'reasonable' amount of hours of labour, the moment bubs arrives any amount of pain is suddenly irelevant.... this was not the case for me, as the hours i was in labour was completely unreasonable (!!!) and i didnt end up having a vbirth, but its how i imagine it would be....

baby pops out, you look down into her beautiful eyes, pain - what pain?? hehe