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  1. #1
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    Terrific Fear of Birth! Possibly upsetting. It is for me.

    This is my third pg and birth. And I am terrified of the upcoming birth. I don't know if this is a normal or rational fear or not. I think maybe it is a contributing factor to my lack of attendance to medical appointments for this pg (coupled with lack of confidence in my carers). I don't know if this thread is just me needing to get this fear out of my mind (if possible!), or if anyone can offer any help.

    My first two births were both "normal", each with only gas as pain relief. I think I asked for an epidural *very* late in the game. And death. I hated it. Both times. Fantastic. Now I am crying. The first labour was long (about twenty six hours), and my waters had to be broken. I was sure that I fainted when they did it, but the mw's and the Man were and are adamant that I did not faint. I had one or two internal tears I think, which needed a few stitches. I was given a local anesthetic for that, and didn't feel the stitches. But sure as hell felt the needle for the anesthetic! A couple of days after the birth, I was given a cannula as they thought I had endometriosis (sp). It made me mad, and the dr and mw's made me see the social worker "before I was allowed to leave the hospital". They accused me of not wanting my baby, because I could not pick her up with this "thing" in my arm. They made me have a drip, when I could have just had a tablet.

    The second labour, was fairly short (about seven and a half hours, most of which I did at home, I was only in the birthing suite fifteen minutes before DS was born). My waters broke while I was sitting on the loo in the birthing suite (because it was the most comfortable place to be!), and I panicked, because I still believed that I had fainted when my waters were broken for the first birth. I was so scared of fainting 'again', and had difficulty making it back to the bed to give birth, as DS's head was "right there". Again, an internal tear which required stitches. The needle for the anesthetic again hurt like hell, but I felt every stitch. Every tug of the needle. It was truly agony, I still recall, probably more than the birth itself. The nurses didn't seem to believe me that I could feel the stitching. I felt at the time they didn't care. I screamed while they stitched me.

    This time, as with the others, I am scared to death of something "going wrong". Perhaps even moreso this time. I am so scared of fainting. February 1 last year I fainted, then I stopped breathing, and my heart stopped. Despite all possible medical tests, I still have no answer. Nothing even ruled out. Doctors told me the easy way to "make sure it never happens again". How I asked? "Don't faint." How? I don't have any control over it. I fainted in hospital in December while a nurse was trying to put a cannula in my hand as I was dehydrated from vomiting due to morning sickness. When I came to, I was freaking out so much. I can't do that during the labour. Or birth. This is so upsetting for me to even type. I am glad the Man has gone out so that he doesn't see me crying about it, and "worrying about something that might not be". I was in the car with him last February when all hell broke loose, and he was holding me in hospital in December when I fainted. I don't want to make him worry again, as he did that day in the car. At one of the few ob appointments I went to for this pg (I haven't seen anyone since just before New Year's), the ob put into my notes that I am afraid of fainting, and to "watch for it" during the labour. What for? I couldn't get him to explain. That scares me. Being petrified of needles (I can't even look at them, even if they are nothing to do with me), I am so scared of "having to have" a drip for something. I don't want a drip, and I can't do it. I know I have said that I asked for an epidural the first two times. I think I was in that much pain, I just wanted it to stop. Epi, or death. They both seemed on the level for me at the time. I don't want them to cut me. I am scared of having a c-section. To the point I can't even read the threads in that section. I am scared of them wanting to give me an episiotomy. I don't care if I tear, and I don't know if that is right. I don't want another needle for an anesthetic and stitches, but I would rather see if I "need them", rather than be forced into them. How do I make it clear I don't want them to cut me? I don't remember any feelings of tearing for either birth, and don't want to think about someone coming at me with a knife for the same purpose.

    This will be my very last pg and birth. None of my pg's have been "glowing" or "cheery" or any of that bs. I know it is a terrific miracle of these little beings created inside me from a single cell, and I am very thankful for that, but. BUT the morning, noon and night sickness is never ending. Never ending too were and are the promises that the sickness would end at twelve weeks. Or twenty weeks. Or soon. F that. I can't do it anymore. And the births. I don't know if all births are like that. I haven't been able to read any birthing stories. Ever.

    I feel like shrugging my shoulders, because I don't know what to say. I don't know what to think. Or do. I don't know if this is depression again. Or what. I am shrugging my shoulders, and feel like saying I give up.

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    I have no specific advice but just wanted to wish you a safe & empowering birth this time. I'm sorry your previous births hadn't been great.


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    It sounds like anxiety to me. You need proper care for yourself during pg be ause it's a very vulnerable time. Can you hire an independent midwife to take to the hospital (or stay home?)

    Your fainting descriptions have been mainly tied to things done to you, such as breaking waters and canula, and the pain from being stitched. So I think you need an advocate who will stop people touching you or intervening without your desire.

    I am a fainter and fainted often in pg. they could watch your blood pressure as that is a good indication that you might faint.

    Sorry I'm on the phone, and there's so much to unpack here...but I wanted to say all your fears are justified and you need help and support to move through them.

    Pregnancy is a time of deep reflection for me, so I understand the way fears present themselves...I don't think it's depression.

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    Couldn't read and not send a massive

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    I think you need to properly debrief about both births and consider doing a calm birth course or hire a doula, independent midwife. I don't think this upcoming birth can be a matter of suck it and see it - yes, things might not happen but given what you have gone through emotionally and physically I'd say that it is more than likely something is going to present itself - whether that be needles, anxiety over fainting etc... I assume you are going back to the same hospital again to birth this baby? Is it possible to speak to the head of the maternity ward and debrief with her/him? I don't know what else to suggest, I hope you will be okay. :hugs:

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    No advice just massive hugs huni xxx

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    I have torn three times. All 2nd degree. First time I was stitched. Second two I wasn't. I healed just as well. I asked my gyno the last time I had a pap smear 'what sort of a war zone was it down there?' he said it was very good! I explained that I hadn't been stitched and he couldn't believe it

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    Traveller; Thanks, I will. I think I need to get rid of some messages first!

    HotI; Thank you.

    Tegam; Thank you. I suppose it doesn't help that I'm not a very "good healer" ? Not that I should tell them that!

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    I'm sorry you are so scared. I have no idea what the next step is but we are always here to vent if you need.


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    i agree with the pp about anxiety. Maybe you can talk to a counsellor about this and also try to assemble a very supportive team of birth partners who understand where you are at mentally and do everythign they can to make it peaceful, and what you want.
    Have you tried writing a birth plan? clearly go through what you do and don't want? Might help the hospy as well. Can you see a gp about this and perhaps have him/her write soemthign to the hospital in terms of referral so they will not dismiss your concerns so quickly?
    Also, not sure if you have considered this, but have you thought about trying to get into a birth centre? I had a birth centre birth with my 2nd bub and it was amazing, more about women supporting women than hospital policies. Very calm and supportive environment and totally driven by the mum's wants and needs, not the docs/hosp/midwives
    it definitely sounds like you need to get some counselling to try to help you cope with the coming birth/labour and to come to peace with the past events.
    big hugs to you hun, I hope you can find something that will help soon.
    ox

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    Hi there, hun. Major hugs. I really, really get it.

    And then you can get into a cycle of feeling guilty for those fears and stresses, and then worrying that the stress and the guilt will be negatively affecting the baby - and then that can stress you out, and then THAT makes you feel guiltier, and the cycle continues and GROWS. And heaven help you if you then start comfort eating, or wanting to drink or smoke, and then the added guilt and stress occasioned by that ... and then you wonder what you are robbing your existing child(ren) of, because of all the time and emotion poured into this dichotomy, and then the stress and upset of what this baby is suffering, because of the guilt, which your first child didn't suffer from ... and again, it just increases and gets darker and deeper, until you wonder whether you're going to fall in and never come out.

    Personally, in short, I had ongoing (fortnightly and then weekly) counselling for over a year leading up to DS2's birth, and also had regular appointments with a psychiatrist who does lots of birth trauma stuff. This was not only to attempt to be "okay" with giving birth again, but also just to be able to be in a hospital without completely going insane ... I did not get to where I wanted to be in the time that I had - and I may never get there - but I was able to get to a place where I could stay mostly calm during the c-section (I was crying and extremely stressed and emotional, but I was able to sit/lie there while they did it, ITMS) and I was able to be in hospital for three nights after the c-section without needing medication for the stress and distress and upset. Non-medicinal therapies ended up being adequate to get me through it.

    It was extremely difficult, took a lot of time energy and money, and the work is no where near done - but my counsellor was able to assist me in creating several different plans for how I could help myself to calm down in different situations, things that I could do to keep my mind off things, and I had several different people to help me (either by talking things through at 2am, or people who would come in and physically be with me) if push came to shove.

    Three wonderful people from BB even offered to come with me to hospital appointments to help keep me calm (and I took one gorgeous girl up on her offer, for which I am still very grateful... she has become a good friend ). I guess stuff like that would be a lot trickier as you're not in town, though.

    If you'd like to discuss in more detail, or if you want to vent, debrief, or come up with some action plans please PM me.

    Hugs in any event.


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    I couldn't read and not reply. I just want to reach though my phone and give you a big hug. I hope that your able to get someone to be there to help support you and your partner.

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    Tegam; Thank you. I suppose it doesn't help that I'm not a very "good healer" ? Not that I should tell them that!
    Just to help you decide, I am a very good healer. Sorry

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    I'd talk to the NUM.

    Wish I could come and look after you! You do sound super scared

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    I think that you would do well with a doula, it's just the sort of situation they are there for. The cost isn't much when you look at how you feel now and how much they will help.

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    Doula, counselling, lots and lots of support for yourself is what I'd recommend. I haven't had a chance to read all of the other responses, just scanned them quickly, but I wouldn't hold back on accessing as much support as you need for this next birth. I'm also prone to fainting (I think I knocked a guy out of the way on the peak hr train with my first pg as it was so over crowded and hot). It's always unnerving coming to, thinking I'm at home in bed to realise I'm somewhere else.
    I was also going to suggest getting an Epi-no to use before your due date. You use it for 5-10 mins/day in the last 3 weeks to gradually and gently stretch the perinuem to hopefully avoid a tear at birth. You control the pressure and release valve and you can also use it to train up your pelvic floor muscles before or after birth. I've met many people who have used one and have not had a tear at birth. We found out about them at Calmbirth classes and our doula recommends them to clients.
    If your partner is supportive, I wouldn't hold back on trying to hide your feelings from him at this point. Crying and feeling vulnerable in front of your partner allows him to know what's happening for you and gives him the opportunity to support you. Maybe if you link in with a counsellor, he might be invited to a session to see what he can do to help you when you're feeling anxious (?)
    Hope you have a better birth experience this time around