I absolutely agree Willow, just I don't think its the case. I think some are great, but not all and you really need to do your research first to make sure you get one those beliefs are in line with your own. I want to thump my SIL for her choice in OB (she's looking at her second csection soon), but its her choice. She's an intelligent woman with all the access to information I have, so I need to respect her decision however much I disagree with it.