Breastfeeding a Toddler While Pregnant

[lilprecious75]

Hi All!

I'm hoping for some nutritional advice here!
I just got a positive result on my home pregnancy test this morning (but I have suspected for a week now) and I'm about 5 weeks pregnant with baby #3.
I'm still breastfeeding my 2yr old son once a day at bedtime so I'm wondering if there are any extra nutritional requirements I need to think about?
I'm actually a bit worried because although DH and I were planning a 3rd baby and were just beginning to try we got pregnant MUCH faster then we thought we would and without trying very hard at all!
So I wasn't eating as healthy as I had hoped to be and was only taking my pregnancy and breastfeeding vitamins sporadically.

Therefore, any thoughts or advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!

Thanks,

[OceanPrincess]

Congrats on your new pregnancy!! Very exciting!!

When I was pg with my DS and still feeding DD, my GP told me to take a calcium supplement, vitamin d tablet, plus the standard pregnancy multi.

[Arcadia]

I fed dd all through ds pregnancy and didn't take anything...not a single vitamin! I found my appetite increased slightly, and I just followed my cravings. I had a blood test to check for iron etc and all was fine, so I just lived and ate normally.

Congrats on the pregnancy! How exciting!

Feeding while pg can be great...I managed to get quite a few extra naps in while feeding in bed. Your nipples will probably get tender soon, so pay attention to attachments...otherwise enjoy!

I tandem fed for about six weeks and even fed while in labour! Boobs rock!

[NaeNae]

Congratulations on your pregnancy.

I breastfed my toddler until she was 20.5 months with no extra vitamins other than the preg/bf supps . I chose to wean her around the 18-19 week mark though for several reasons one being it was becoming painful and she had develo[ed a tongue flicking thing which I hated.

I would chat to your Dr or Ob and see what recommendations they suggest.

BOL
Nae x

[EsJay]

i was just about to start a thread asking this very question, as i have just found myself in this same situation.

so basically what you're all saying is just the basic supplement is fine (i take blackmores) and if anything shows up low in a bt get a supplement for that?

yep i am a worry wart! lol

and sorry for hijacking your thread...

[OceanPrincess]

Yep Jen that sounds good!

[AwesomeFoursome]

I'm still feeding my 8mth old and just found out I'm pregnant so I've started taking elevit. The dr has given me a form for blood to get everything checked, iron ect. With DS i had low iron so I had to take a iron tablet and elevit. Maybe see if your dr can check them when you are having blood test.

[~ Mylitta ~]

I'm 9.5 weeks pregnant and still breastfeeding both my 7.5 month old and my 2 year old. My 2 year old is only getting my babies "left overs" now though as I feed him after she has fed. I also fed my toddler during my baby's pregnancy. I take Blackmores Pregnancy and Breastfeeding capsules and I'm starting to take Vit D capsules again as last pregnancy I was deficient so my Ob is assuming I probably will be again.

If you talk to your Ob about it, just be aware that they will probably advise weaning. Their priority has to be the bub in your tummy and even though the risk to the baby is small, there is still a risk and they have to put the interests of tummy bub first. After 12 weeks of pregnancy your uterus starts to make the receptors that recognise oxytocin and can cause the uterus to contract. As you make oxytocin when you breastfeed the risk is that you can cause a miscarriage or early onset labour. I personally take the risk because I figure that everytime I hold my children, or look at them, or hug them (or even hubby, lol) I am making oxytocin anyway. But I understand an Ob's position in what their recommendation is.

Also, just so you know and it doesn't come as a surprise, you'll probably find that at some point breastfeeding can become excruciating. I had it for a couple of months last pregnancy until it finally abated and didn't hurt anymore. Your supply may drop as well. My supply has already started decreasing but there is still plenty at this stage for my baby (and a little for my 2 year old). Toward the end of the last pregnancy though I think my toddler was not even getting milk anymore, and just a little colostrum. He seemed content with it though. My advice if you have plenty of milk right now, would be to express when you are able and keep it stored int he freezer in case you supply suffers, that way you can supplement with your own milk later in the pregnancy and hopefully if you want to tandem feed then both bub's will be happy once the new milk supply comes in

[Heaven]

I BF my toddler during my pregnancy and have now been tandem feeding for 6 months. I just did the same as I did first pregnancy, just taking the normal pregnancy vitamins. I also took an iron one too to keep my iron up in 3rd trimester

[Jellyfish]

Not all Obs will advise weaning. Mine only asked whether I had an idea of what I would do and when I said I wasn't sure yet as I was just seeing how things went, she was very encouraging and offered to find me some information on tandem feeding.

I haven't been taking any different supplements to my first pregnancy and my Ob didn't suggest anything other than following my own hunger and keeping up my fluids.

[HotI]

The health professionals (GP, midwives, MCHN) i have spoken to have been happy for me to continue breastfeeding as long as i am happy to.

[EsJay]

oh i didnt realise there was a risk, that may change the situation as ive had a cs, they will probably advise to wean. the mchn has been at me since 18mths due to my 'clingy baby' pfft to her but if there is a risk i will probably wean, i will already be at slightly elevated risk due to the cs. thanks for that, i will be sure to speak to my gp this week and the ob when i see her

[~ Mylitta ~]

I just read back my post and didn't want to imply that all Obs and health professionals will advise weaning, just wanted the ladies that had questions to know that it might be something that is suggested to them. Different people have different opinions. I was told over and over that I would have to wean before having IVF, but my IVF specialist was happy for me to continue breastfeeding through 2 IVF cycles. He just advised me of the small risks and then was happy to support me

Not having had a cs in the past, I'm not sure if breastfeeding would pose a slightly greater risk, but I'm super pro-breastfeeding (well, actually, I guess I'm more pro-choice than anything else and think that what a woman knows what is best for her and her kids ), so having a chat with a few different health professionals (including a lactation consultant) might be the way to go

[Barb Glare]

I think we are making this much harder than it needs to be. We release oxytocin when we hold, touch and cuddle each other, and when we orgasm. But interestingly those who freak out new mothers with the supposed "risks of breastfeeding" rarely warn of the dire risks of sex. (yes, because like breastfeeding they are non existent) You don't need to *do anything/take anything*) And like many of us who breastfed through pregnancy and beyond you might find it such an amazingly blessing to be able to get a tired toddler to sleep in 5 sucks when you are pregnant and over it, and you may marvel at the wonderful bond it creates between your breastfeeding children, and how your body provides for you all.
Breastfeeding is NOT risky business!

[Heaven]

Don't worry. BFing during pregnancy is no more risky than huging your partner and you're not going to stop that are you? I haven't even seen any research on it either, I assume it's just a theory???? No idea.

I had a c/s with DD1 and BF her through my pregnancy with DD2 and had a VBAC

[feeb]

My boys are 18 months apart and I fed all thru my pregnancy and continue to feed now at 3 years and nearly 20 months.
As a MW and MCHN student I would never suggest weaning because pregnant unless the person wanted too. My OB did not care either way was happy for me to still be feeding.

I had 2 CS as well.

In pregnancy my supply did drop towards end and I thought DS1 may wean but nope. It was very tender to feed at times but bearable.

Congratulations and good luck.

[~ Mylitta ~]

A 1993 study titled “Breastfeeding During Pregnancy” conducted by Moscone and Moore and reported in the Journal of Human Lactation found that, “breastfeeding does not appear to adversely affect the course of pregnancy.”

[Heaven]

This article just popped up on my FB and I thought of this thread

Breastfeeding During Pregnancy – Common Concerns About Safety



Pregnant mothers who continue to breastfeed often have questions about whether it is safe to nurse throughout pregnancy as well as what effects it will have on the health of their nurslings, their unborn babies, and themselves. I’ve been researching these questions myself, and I’d like to share some of the information I found with you. The bottom line is this: “There is no evidence that continued nursing would be harmful to” mother, fetus, or the current nursling.¹
The information in this two-part series comes primarily from three incredible resources: Adventures in Tandem Nursing by Hilary Flower, Mothering Your Nursing Toddler by Norma Bumgarner, and kellymom.com. I strongly recommend that pregnant mamas interested in nursing through pregnancy and/or tandem nursing read them.
Today I’ll look at four questions: Are there risks involved with breastfeeding during pregnancy? Are there risks to the mother’s health? Are there risks to the current nursling’s health? Are there risks to the fetus’s health?
In part two (“Common Concerns About Supply”), I’ll share information on three more questions: How many breastfeeding mothers will lose milk during pregnancy? How many nurslings will wean during pregnancy? What can I do to maintain my milk during pregnancy?

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Are there risks involved with breastfeeding during pregnancy?
The main risk that breastfeeding mothers are warned against is the possibility of miscarriage or preterm labor. “Since breastfeeding stimulation has been shown to cause uterine contractions, many people wonder if breastfeeding could trigger problematic contractions during pregnancy.”² Why does breastfeeding cause uterine contractions? When a nursling suckles, the body releases oxytocin, which is the chemical messenger necessary to stimulate let-down. “Through the release of oxytocin and prostaglandin breastfeeding also stimulates the uterus to contract.”³
What does research show? Well, so far, nothing. There have been no controlled studies on whether uterine contractions caused by breastfeeding can cause a mother to experience premature labor. But we do have “years of anecdotal experience with mothers who have been nursing through pregnancy, even those with a past history of miscarriage and premature delivery, and there is no readily apparent increase in either problem.”⁴ In one survey, only seven percent of women “recalled contractions related to breastfeeding at all.”⁵
There are at least two physical reasons that breastfeeding contractions are normally nothing to worry about. First, clinical observation has shown “that breastfeeding contractions do not produce dilation of the cervix.”⁶ Second, the uterus changes throughout pregnancy – during the majority of pregnancy (until about 38 weeks), nipple stimulation causes even “less oxytocin to be released compared with” women who are not pregnant. The uterus is simply not as responsive to oxytocin. After the uterus reaches “full term” around week 38, suddenly the uterus becomes more sensitive to oxytocin, and therefore nipple stimulation can more easily cause uterine contractions in women who are term.⁷ In other words, “[u]nless your pregnancy is term or the cervix is ripe, the released oxytocin stimulation is not sufficient to bring on labor.”⁸
Indeed, full-term women have successfully induced labor using nipple stimulation from a breast pump. But the amount of stimulation required is likely to be far more than any one nursling could sustain – the pumping necessary to induce labor ranges from 15 to 45 minutes of dedicated stimulation every hour for several hours. Even the most dedicated nursling would have trouble keeping up with that pace!⁹
Realistically, if you are able to have sex and orgasms (“both of which cause uterine contractions”), then breastfeeding will most likely not pose a risk for you either.¹⁰ And a final word on the risk of miscarriage or preterm labor from Lesley Regan, PhD, Md, who “heads the Miscarriage Clinic at St. Mary’s Hospital in London . . . . She [said]: ‘Once a pregnancy is clinically detectable, breastfeeding should pose no added risk of pregnancy loss. There isn’t any data suggesting a link between breastfeeding and miscarriage, and I see no plausible reasons for there to be a link.’”¹¹

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Are there risks to the mother’s health?
“Many mothers are warned that breastfeeding during pregnancy will deplete their body’s nutritional stores and harm their long-term health.” Research has shown, though, that well-nourished breastfeeding mothers do not need to be more concerned about their short or long-term health than other pregnant women. Maternal health risks are generally only experienced by malnourished mothers.¹²
Research has established that nursing pregnant mothers:
1) do not have an increased risk of bone loss/osteoporosis;
2) actually decrease their risk of breast cancer by increased breastfeeding (“breast cancer risk is reduced by 7 percent for each birth and an additional 4.3 percent for every 12 months of breastfeeding”); and
3) have little risk of losing fat reserves during breastfeeding, because our bodies are “designed to store up fat during pregnancy and then tap into these fat reserves for milk production in the early breastfeeding period.” Again, this is true more for healthy, well-nourished mothers, but even a malnourished mother can expect to recover her fat reserves if she nurses for 15 months or more.¹³

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Are there risks to the current nursling’s health?
The concerns mothers usually have about the current nursling’s health are mainly about the quantity of breastmilk and the types of nutrients they are receiving from the breastmilk. Breastmilk quantity will vary from mother to mother (and from pregnancy to pregnancy for the same mother) and depends on your body’s chemistry (see the section below on “how many breastfeeding mothers will lose milk during pregnancy?”). You need be less concerned with the nutrients your nursling receives from your breastmilk: as long as your child is nursing, she will get nutritional and immunological benefits.
“It is true that a subsequent pregnancy can have a negative impact on the benefits of breastfeeding – but only in so far as it leads to premature weaning or diminished milk supplies.”¹⁴ For nurslings who still drink breastmilk as their primary source of nutrition, mothers should pay attention to the nursling’s weight gain and monitor their own breastmilk supply. “You may need to increasingly supplement with other foods and drinks [including donor breastmilk] if the amount of breastfeeding is shrinking for whatever reason.”¹⁵
Breastmilk – whether from pregnant or non-pregnant nursing mothers – really is nature’s super food. Breastmilk contains “growth factors, hormones, enzymes, and other substances that are immune-protective and foster proper growth and nutrition . . . .”¹⁶ “The milk of pregnant mothers continues to offer key immunological protection to young children[,]” as well as nutrients essential for growth.¹⁷ A study of random samples of milk from pregnant mothers found changes, lower levels of lipids and lactose and higher levels of protein, but nothing harmful. Another study tested the milk of three pregnant mothers over several months. About the second month of pregnancy the milk began to undergo changes similar to those observed during the course of weaning. Concentrations of sodium and protein gradually increased while milk volume, along with concentrations of glucose, lactose, and potassium, gradually fell. . . . Thus there is no reason to be concerned about ill effects in the nursing child.”¹⁸
Some mothers worry about the effects of pregnancy hormones on their nurslings. While some of these hormones “are present in the milk,” they are also present in breastfeeding mothers who take some oral contraceptives. “There seems little reason to worry, though, about natural hormones present at natural levels[; additionally, t]he developing fetus is exposed to the very same hormones at a much higher level [without ill effect].”¹⁹

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Are there risks to the fetus’s health?
Please note that this section is largely on the fetus’s health only – it does not cover the health of your newborn if you decide to tandem nurse. That being said, there is plenty of evidence that shows “tandem nursing mothers produce ample milk.”²⁰
“There are no obvious risks to the fetus in a healthy pregnancy.” As with any pregnancy, nursing mothers have healthier outcomes with good starting weights and healthy weight gain throughout the pregnancy.²¹ Mothers should listen to their own bodies’ needs so that they are ingesting enough to adequately sustain their own energy reserves, nourish the unborn child, maintain (as they are able) milk supply for the nursling, and to build up sufficient fat stores in . . . to support full lactation after the baby is born.”²²
With respect to your toddler’s consumption of either breastmilk or colostrum during pregnancy, this will have no effect on “your new baby’s supply, since [the colostrum made before birth] is a ‘practice’ milk and is not being stored up for the baby’s use. Instead your body will make fresh colostrum for the newborn.”[Flower at 67.] Moreover, mothers who breastfed throughout pregnancy “appear to produce colostrum immediately postpartum, . . . although there may be some compositional differences. . . . If you are concerned about having enough to go around in the early days, you may be pleased to know that because you have breastfed before, colostrum will be more readily available after your new baby is born. [Additionally], milk yield increases rapidly after the first day, and particularly for mothers who have breastfed before.”²³
What questions or concerns did you have about safely breastfeeding during pregnancy?
Be sure to stay tuned for part two, “Common Concerns About Supply.”

1. Mothering Your Nursing Toddler by Norma Bumgarner at 121.
2. Adventures in Tandem Nursing by Hilary Flower at 223.
3. Flower at 225.
4. Bumgarner at 130.
5. Flower at 225.
6. Flower at 225.
7. Flower at 226-27 (emphasis added).
8. Can I Breastfeed During Pregnancy?
9. Bumgarner at 130-31, Flower at 226-27.
10. Bumgarner at 131.
11. Flower at 228.
12. Flower at 211.
13. Flower at 211, 213-14.
14. Flower at 215.
15. Flower at 256.
16. Hamosh, Margit, PhD, Breastfeeding: Unraveling the Mysteries of Mother’s Milk.
17. Flower at 215.
18. Bumgarner at 122-23; see also Flower at 61.
19. Bumgarner at 132; see also Flower at 61.
20. Flower at 233.
21. Flower at 220-21.
22. Bumgarner at 131.
23. Flower at 69-70.