O i did that too... ooops!!
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O i did that too... ooops!!
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Waste! We are all guilty of this living in a modern society. Otherwise we'd all be on a farm living off the land. We buy computers then get rid of them when the technology changes, same with phones. Toys for kids, ducted air conditioning, plastics etc etc etc
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Well, I do everything I can in my life to reduce waste because I think it’s a really important thing to do. And I reckon I’m making a difference.... and I'm just one person.
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I personally don't see anything wrong with it at all
People still have a choice to buy it or not.. To me it is no different to buying different types of prams or baby carriers.. This is my opinion
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I did both so I'm a cancer-causing hippy?Thats okay Tinks, apparently breastfeeding is just for hippies anyway
I wouldn't buy that machine but I do think it looks funky and could see why FF mums would happily have it on their bench tops. Why not? If they can afford it, like the look and happily FF then why the hell not? A waste of money for some, a funky addition to their kitchen for others. Who cares?
I can also see why some mums buy the wipe warmers - have those of you that bagged them ever tried them on your LO's bum in winter? It's a whole lot nicer than a stone cold wipe or wash cloth on their exposed little butt! Some of the parent rooms at our local shopping centre have them and when I've tried them on DD, she's really seemed to like them. So much so I had considered buying one as she hates the cool air and wipe on her bum now it's winter. And I don't blame her! I wouldn't fancy a cold wipe or cloth on my bum either!
Gimmicks are everywhere. Don't like them, don't buy them. Simple
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Well said Taurean
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Yep and some people have more slings then they could possibly use.I did both so I'm a cancer-causing hippy?
I wouldn't buy that machine but I do think it looks funky and could see why FF mums would happily have it on their bench tops. Why not? If they can afford it, like the look and happily FF then why the hell not? A waste of money for some, a funky addition to their kitchen for others. Who cares?
I can also see why some mums buy the wipe warmers - have those of you that bagged them ever tried them on your LO's bum in winter? It's a whole lot nicer than a stone cold wipe or wash cloth on their exposed little butt! Some of the parent rooms at our local shopping centre have them and when I've tried them on DD, she's really seemed to like them. So much so I had considered buying one as she hates the cool air and wipe on her bum now it's winter. And I don't blame her! I wouldn't fancy a cold wipe or cloth on my bum either!
Gimmicks are everywhere. Don't like them, don't buy them. Simple
Each to their own.
I totally agree the advertising is pathetic but what advertising isn't nowadays?
I also don't get the 1k pram bashing? Our first pram was $50, which was reused for DD after my SIL had used it for her first born, so it was 3rd hand by then. My current car is very small and so far the only pram I can find to fit in it is 1k+.....so what?
Anyway back on topic, I don't like it and I don't see a point. What if there's a power outage? I'm sure the capsules are probably going to be super expensive. What do you do when your out? It's a complete gimmick but I'm sure we all have one or two things in our houses that fall into that category.
I haven't actually heard of wipe warmers? I don't see why people make so much fun of them? When I get a face washer out to wipe the kids faces in winter I use warm watercan't say I would buy one but it doesn't seem completely useless.
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So... How's this machine affecting third world countries again? I doubt they'd be able to afford one...
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Aspiration marketing Helle.
It's why the airlines advertise 1st Class not economy and BMW spends a great deal more advertising the X5 and X6 than the X3 and X1.
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Aspiration alright!!
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I don't care much for nestle the babynes or a debate on ff v bf ....... Really I'm more worried that my child gets fed......
( not that it matters but I bf - dd did have formula when I was in hospital - without her - and it wasn't the end of the world..... It would have been in she starved though. )
I was just saying that's all....... As with a lot of things in life we tend to focus on bad and forget about good.
I don't think it's either bad or good.
Btw the answer to how the bottles are made....... Filtered water is used.
So I guess on top of buying pods you might need to change filters.
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Thanks MD...your right.
Its so easy to lose track of what actually is important. Especially in heated discussions like this .
As long as bubs is fine thats all that matters.
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Geez, I never saw it get heated? It's been invigorating and challenging, I wouldn't have said 'heated', though.
And 'bubs is fine' is really the point here - Nestle doesn't care. 'Bubs is fine' by what measure? Nestle's measure? FF mums must trust that formula companies are working towards this at the very least and there is so little you guys can do to take them to task...because they are commercial enterprises, not pharmaceutical companies or government agencies. The point is that they are not transparent about ANYTHING, so how can that serve the mum who wants the best for her child?
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LOL...I tried to think of a word besides heated as I thought someone would have something to say about it.
And as for the rest...bahhh....
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I have to say as someone who has formula fed, and breastfed and supported friends who both breastfed and formula fed I don't see this as being heated. I don't see why people can't be upset about this product. How is it any different for people to voice their opinions on anything. Just because someone doesn't agree with something doesn't mean it's a personal attack, and I have not seen that here. As another poster said, I hate the actions of the formula companies... not the actions of people who use formula. Not to be harsh, but I'm seeing a lot of posters being up in arms, and that in turn is causing the us vs. them, and it's not those who don't agree with the product.
I agree totally about the transparency. It's a ridiculous product. And I agree with the environmental impact to, I hate those pod coffee machines, and this is the same. I have no doubt that the prices of this product would be just as expensive as the coffee pods.
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I have posted an extract from an article that I wrote a couple of years ago. It provides some specific examples of Nestle's conduct for those who may be interested in learning more about Nestle's behaviour. The IBFAN website is worth a look too.
In November 2007, the International Baby Food Action Network (IBFAN) published a report entitled ‘Breaking the Rules, Stretching the Rules 2007’. The report includes global monitoring results from 67 countries, gathered between 2004 and 2007. The results demonstrate that companies continue to violate the Code in a ‘systematic and institutionalised way’. The market leader in breast milk substitutes, Nestle, stands out as the worst offender. The report states, in part:
‘In China, Nestle provides wrist bands for newborns with the Nestle name and logo as used on formula...In Indonesia, a number of hospitals receive discounts from Nestle for infant formulas. Health workers give samples to new mothers. Nestle pays to be allowed to supply free infant formula to a hospital in Saudi Arabia. In Hungary, mothers receive samples of [Nestle] formula through the mail’.
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