I love Michel Odent and that's a wonderful quote that you have shared thankyou Lisa...

I wouldnt' say you are not like anyone here. I certainly have never had a c/section and hope I never will... Yes, the risks are greater... to both mother and baby. That is factual and true...

What do you do though about a woman who just can't do it? Say well sorry my love you just have to? Is that respectful? Is this showing dignity to the birthing Mama?

I dont' agree with c/section for convenience... I don't and I can't understand it because that's not where I am... I don't believe birth should fit into our lives... That's my opinion...

I don't really think that that is what we have been discussing. We have been discussing why women choose c/section. It is a tiny minority that choose it for convenience...
MOre often it is a medical reason/fear or coersion from a medical professional... This is why education is important. Then a woman can decide if this is what she wants... Weighing up all of the facts...

Now, to why a woman would choose the much riskier option of surgical delivery???? Lisa, one very valid reason for some women is the death of a previous baby... It's like a post traumatic response... It is incredibly intense... Each time the midwife puts a doppler to belly the fear strikes... That takes an incredible amount of support, courage and love to get through... Many women do and how wonderful... Some don't and that's okay too.

I don't disagree with the reality that vaginal birth in a healthy mother with a healthy baby is a far safer option than c/section... That is an absolute fact...

However, why we make those choices isn't necessarily so clear cut for every woman...

I find the way you are speaking difficult... especially after such a quote... We need to show all women dignity and respect I think... Replace our own barrow pushing with a little understanding and love...