Oppositional Defiant Disorder- ADD-Mild Autism

[Cocolove]

aka ODD.
My 5 year old is currently being moniterd & assessed for this as well as ADD & possibly MIld Autisim the last one i dont agree with as she speaks just fine although she didnt start till she was 2 and didnt walk till 18 months old.
Can anyone give me any advice or support.
Some days with her end up with me in tears.

[Lulu]

You might like to poke your head in here - https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...atter-2-a.html

[Lulu]

Oh and I know how you feel - I just had a mini-mental so I put both kids in the bath and poured myself a vino....

[sweetpea678]

Hi Butterflypirate,

my dd was assesed at the same age as your daughter for all three, her devlopment was similar in didn't realy speak till 2 and started walking with support at 16 months and on own by 18 months.

She was finally diagnosed ODD, i have learnt that at times it is best to let her be and then sort it out latter, we went threw having a psycologist (spelling) come to the school and try and sort out a program for her. In the end i changed schools and they have been great. One thing I have discovered is not telling her teacher she has ODD this year as actually helped, as the past 3 years the teachers have then blamed her for everything. She is now in year 4 and actually controls most of it herself, she will say mum I need to be by myself.

Diet does play a bit of a role in it to. We had a feelings chart where she could put the pointer on how she was feeling to help her other siblings to know when not to go near her, this helped heaps and she used one at school for awhile whiched helped to.

If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

[Cocolove]

Hi Butterflypirate,

my dd was assesed at the same age as your daughter for all three, her devlopment was similar in didn't realy speak till 2 and started walking with support at 16 months and on own by 18 months.

She was finally diagnosed ODD, i have learnt that at times it is best to let her be and then sort it out latter, we went threw having a psycologist (spelling) come to the school and try and sort out a program for her. In the end i changed schools and they have been great. One thing I have discovered is not telling her teacher she has ODD this year as actually helped, as the past 3 years the teachers have then blamed her for everything. She is now in year 4 and actually controls most of it herself, she will say mum I need to be by myself.

Diet does play a bit of a role in it to. We had a feelings chart where she could put the pointer on how she was feeling to help her other siblings to know when not to go near her, this helped heaps and she used one at school for awhile whiched helped to.

If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

Thank you, my girls go to a private school & they have an in house psychologist so i am pretty confident they will be great with her if this is what she has, Some days i find myself in tears its so hard dealing with her.

Its so nice to have support, im sick of hearing "its just normal 5yr old behaviour" ive been hearing the same "its normal" thing from people for years im sick of it being brushed off when i try speak about it to people i have noone to vent to, noone understands the difficulty.

[AliBaby]

I am a teacher and I have a boy in my class diagnosed with ODD, ADDHD and mild autism. If I am honest I will say he is hard work and it is draining but I am trying and some strategies I have put in place for him (he is 8yrs old) are: he has a stress ball that he can hold anytime he wants, I have him on a sensory mat which kind of helps with his need to pick at things, he has a chill out corner he can go to in the room. He doesnt have to ask me, he can just go there and I know to leave him. He also needs to know exactly what is going on in the day, hates unexpected change, so I clearly lay out picture cards for him on black cardboard. We have feeling cards as well.

I still have a lot to learn about it all.

[sweetpea678]

Alibaby, you sound like a teacher who is actually trying to help her students, it would be good if all teachers where like that.

My daughter teacher this year has been great and my daughter is loving it so far, she normally falls apart in the last term of the year so hoping this year will be different.

Butterflypirate, It was the same with me I got told all the way from early on it was just her age and normal, I insisted there was something not normal and was right. From early on my daughter would get violent when things didn't go her way and would wack things and through things, my now dh third meeting with my dd was arriving to my youngest at the time opening the door to him as i was trying to remove my daughter into her room so she could trash that and not the whole house and he then undstood why I had bruises from head to toe.

I hope you get the answers you are looking for.

[Cocolove]

Thanks for all the support.
ali I hope Monis teacher can be like that.

Sweetpea its so frustrating, even my own husband use to think she was just normal until he seen more of the behaviour, he is against me taking her to the peads for assesment but I went against his will as i know that this behaviour is far from normal.

[AliBaby]

Aww thanks girls You made me feel really good as a teacher as sometimes I really doubt myself and wonder if I am doing enough.

BP- I know it would have been hard to go against your DH's will about seeing a pead but you are doing the right thing. I think the earlier the intervention the more it can help the child and thats what the aim is of getting help.

[Cocolove]

DD's symtoms are.

Growling, screaming & random weird noises.
Biting, hitting, punching, kicking, slapping,lying & stealing,
She kicks things in tantrums.
She is constantly moving even while sitting watching TV she will move & wriggle & occasionaly make her weird noises.
She hurts herself,
She cant walk she runs everywhere, cant maintain a conversation because her mind wonders.
didnt walk till 18months or talk till 2years,
very very emotional.

[christy]

butterflypirate, except for the walking/talking development (my DD1 walked at 9 months... talked at 2.3 years). Those symptoms are a lot like my DD1. She has high functioning autism, and with that severe sensory integration disorder.

We have been doing over a year of OT, some speech pathology and a bit of psychological behavioural work and she's a different child. We haven't had a meltdown in ages. I can not encourage hard enough the need for early intervention and getting them into a good OT as soon as you can.

[christy]

butterflypirate, except for the walking/talking development (my DD1 walked at 9 months... talked at 2.3 years). Those symptoms are a lot like my DD1. She has high functioning autism, and with that severe sensory integration disorder. There have been suggestions of ADHD and ODD, but we are focusing on the autism and sensory issues, and you know what? The others tend to not be as bad now.

We have been doing over a year of OT, some speech pathology and a bit of psychological behavioural work and she's a different child. We haven't had a meltdown in ages. I can not encourage hard enough the need for early intervention and getting them into a good OT as soon as you can.

[Cocolove]

oh really thanks for that i knew there was something wrong ive been told over and over she is just a normal kid, but she isnt ive known it all along,

[christy]

I strongly suggest getting the book "the Out of Sync Child"

[Cocolove]

Thanks christy i will google it and see what its about

[~clover~]

Hi hun. I haven't read all the replies, but I wanted to send you
I went through a really tough time with my DD1 when she was 6. She was assessed for ODD, but as she was behaving at school she didn't have it.
She is still a very defiant child & I am still having a really really hard time with her most of the time, but I think (hope) it'll get better. (She moved out the other day!! )
There is a huge scale of autism, so I'd let them look more into that. JIC. It can be very mild.
The only advice I can give you is try to keep calm & take each day as it comes.

[Cocolove]

I know in my heart that this more than a phase she has been like this since birth seriously she used to scream and scream and started hurting herself from a very young age, the noises startd as soon as she found her voice.
I am desperate for answers, I have typed her symptoms into a database and they all bring up some form of autisic trait, I couldnt have autistic child could I that doesnt happen in my family, Im a dance teacher & on a thursday night I teach disabled children/adults, a few with autism and Monsta is nothing like them, she functions, she speaks, yet yes she hates loud noises and is emotional like an autisic child, its all so confusing, I cry over it all the time as I feel Ive failed her.

[Cocolove]

I strongly suggest getting the book "the Out of Sync Child"

WOW I just read through a full page blurb and im stunned it sounds like my daughter all over, yet she has a few more symptoms not assosiated with SPD. Thank you so much for that