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  1. #1
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    Dec 2006
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    Hi, my DD3 is very much the same as yours and she has the hemroids and skin tags to prove it, she has started to get a bit better, but as a baby was a nightmare....most things did'nt work or worked breifly eg the over the counter drops!!! she had a glycerine suppositry which worked, and we just had to up the water in take...went high fibre everything...lots of fruit...sounds like you have got that happening and i think that will help after what is there comes out..thats a lot of poo and they can develop pooing issues and hold it because it hurts so much..I say get it out of there and keep up with the great diet you have going..forget about tea and what she does'nt eat, my kids have (used to have) fruit in place of vegies.. I still put it on their plates and eventually they eat it...7 years later..!!!! :0 and I stopped making other meals for my kids if they don't try it there is nothing else if they try it they can have yoghurt if they eat it all a biscuit icecream etc:my son discovered he loves Pumpkin soup because of it..I guess like your shots of prune juice, desperation and willing to try anything gets you over the line lol!!!

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    well I whipped up some pear juice (love that thermo!) and she's drinking it at the moment, but unfortunately the other two bigger kids are drinking it as well, so I'll have some very interesting nappies soon!!

    Yael - she doesn't sit on the toilet yet, she's still in nappies. I have been dancing around with her this arvo though, trying to get her to relax and stuff, and I think exercise is supposed to get things moving and out.... well it worked for me when I went jogging, always wanted to do a poo halfway through.. LOL

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    Nov 2008
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    My heart goes out to you and your DD! Our DD has had ongoing poo issues since November last year due to a nasty bout of constipation which caused anal fissures It's been a crappy ride for both of us, pun intended

    You've been given some good suggestions already but I'll say that a lot of them don't work for my DD. I have tried and tried natural remedies but we have always had to resort to some sort of medicine in the end. The only natural extras I could suggest which I give to DD to keep her on a roll when we finally get pooing is pureed apples (I just buy the SPC tubs so they are quick and easy!) or Rafferty's Gardens sachets but not the ones with bananas in them as bananas can make things worse. Apricot juice or puree is also quite good but DD wasn't a huge fan.

    One of the medicines I've had success with is Parachoc which is a stool softener and lubricant, not a laxative like many think. I add it to her bottle or a sippy cup of milk and that usually does the trick. In saying that though, you need to be consistent and continue using it until soft poos are the norm. Some kids are on Parachoc for years depending on the severity of the 'poo issues'. It's extremely safe though and your DD may only need a weeks worth. My DD has psychological issues with pooing (thanks to the damn anal fissures scaring the hell out of her!) hence why we are still using it.

    The other trick I have up my sleave is Infant Coloxyl Drops. Once again, I add it to her milk (three times a day) and usually within 24 hours the blockage is cleared. If you give this a go, speak to your pharmacist more about it though and ask how long you need to continue with it after the poo has arrived

    Poo issues can quickly become psychological for children so I have everything crossed for you that your DD is OK once she has a good clean out.

    Good luck

    PS: we tried suppositories a couple of times and both of us hated them DD was very traumatised by it and I hated putting my fingers up her tiny bottom. On each occassion the damn thing just slid out still in one piece anyway so I've refused to try them again. It was awful

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    poor little chicken!!!! i dont have any better sugestions other than whats already been said...the ennema isnt as bad as it sounds!! probably the most effective and least painful IMO. hope she is sorted soon!! good luck with the kilo of poo!!

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    I wouldnt feel too bad about it, it may have started as a psychological onset. Ie she had one poo that was semi solid, it hurt to come out and then she didnt want to go the next time so held onto it and thus unknowingly the cycle begins. I hope she feels better soon

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    OMG - poor thing, you too...

    Before you go down the supp path, try Movicol from the chemist... it is an oral powder that you mix with water and it helps soften as it draws the water that it is mixed with into the bowel and the poo.
    There are two types of medications that are used, softeners (glycerine) and ones that help the peristaltic movements of the bowel (coloxyl)... increasing the fibre in the diet is going to help by providing bulk that will help stimulate the bowel to move the poo along, the big problem is that it is going to be bloody hard close to the end of the bowel and this is what is going to cause the pain when passing as it is all jammed together and will not squish out itms.

    She needs loads of water, i would be diluting the juice with water as if it is too sugary, water may be pulled away from the bowel to dilute the sugar - and then you will have the opposite effect.

    Hope this helps and she is pooing soon

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    Nov 2008
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    How's your DD going today? Any movement?

    My DD has finally let the flood gates open and we've had 3 really good poos this afternoon. I used just Coloxyl Drops this time. It took a day and a half of drops before we had action. Another one to keep up your sleeve. We'll have continued issues for some time though as DD had the fissures so we have a BIG hurdle to overcome before she's comfy with pooing on a regular basis. We normally get 5ish good days then 5ish bad days.

    I found some interesting info when I was researching Coloxyl drops for myself. It's on the Royal Children's Hospital of Melbourne website so a reputable source I'd say Here some bits that you may find helpful:

    Remove frightening or painful associations
    •If your child is holding onto bowel motions after a painful experience, it can be helpful to use laxatives (oral medicines) to keep the poo soft for several weeks. This will allow easy passage of poo and give time for anal fissures to heal.
    A healthy diet
    Giving your child adequate fibre in their diet might help prevent constipation in some children who have a natural tendency. To add more fibre to your child's diet, you can give your child:

    •at least 2 servings of fruit each day. Fruits with the peel left on, such as plums, prunes, raisins, apricots, and peaches, have a lot of fibre.
    •at least 3 servings of vegetables each day
    •less processed cereals, such as bran cereals, shredded wheat, whole grain cereals or oatmeal. Avoid refined cereals, such as corn flakes and rice bubbles.
    •wholemeal bread instead of white bread

    Reduce cow's milk intake to a maximum of 500ml per day (for children over the age of 18 months) and avoid sweet drinks before meals, to improve your child's appetite at meal times.
    Children who have been constipated for many months are likely to need laxative medications for several months, as well as encouraging healthy bowel habits.
    Prune Juice - this is a mild natural laxative that works in some children. Prune juice may taste better if mixed with another juice, such as apple, apricot, or cranberry juice. You can freeze prune juice to make icypoles.
    Liquid paraffin mixtures (eg. Agarol™, Parachoc™) - comes as a flavoured liquid, and works by softening and lubricating the poo to make it easier to pass.
    Macrogol 3350 (eg. Movicol™) - comes in a sachet to mix with water and works by softening the poo.
    Docusate / poloxalkol (eg. Coloxyl™) - comes as a tablet or drops (which are most suitable for children under 3 years of age), and works by softening the poo.
    This bit is very interesting as it states that suppositories DO NOT soften poo in the upper bowel.

    Suppositories & mini-enemas (eg. Glycerine, Duralax™ and Microlax™) - these are small tablet or liquid that is placed into your child's bottom (rectum). They stimulate the rectum to empty. They do not soften the poo in the upper bowel. They are sometimes recommended for severe constipation but oral laxatives are more effective and less distressing for most children. Glycerine suppositories may be used for severe constipation in infants.
    I hope some of that helps

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    I do remember one thing my cousin had to eat was plain popcorn, really high in fibre.

    A lot of kids get it from a diet high in processed food (jamies school lunches spoke about this in the series) BUT there are other things that can cause it too.

    MIL has a friend who is a pediatric gastroenterlogy researcher. I will see if she has some good links for online info

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    friends of ours had this with their little girl, and they were told to sprinkle bran on anything she was likely to eat or drink, get the prunes and prune juice happening, and they ended up having to give her Duflex (or Lactulose, whatever they call it these days) and Senacot (came in these little tins with crunchy chocolate-y little twigs, not the pills).

    it was a long term thing for their little girl, but they got there

    good luck!

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    Poor bubba mum - you're not a bad mummy!!!!!!

    ok a strange and bizarre thing that is totally out there, but may help a bit, you can get lubricant specifically designed for anal sex (yes I can imagine you sending your DH into a sex shop to get it), it has a bit of local in it to "numb" the area. Unsure if you can use it for Little-Miss-No-Poo because of her age, but I know that you can get something similar at the chemist (a lubricant/cream type thing with local in it). I did say it was strange and bizarre

    I'm just thinking this might help mildly numb the area so that the physical act of pushing doesn't hurt as much.

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    Coffee always gets my bowels moving quickly, but probably not suitable
    Could you maybe set up a reward system for her going, to get over the initial fear? .... just throwing ideas out there hun.

    I tried everything to get my bowels working after my c-section, 50% was fear to push, 50% was bowels not moving.. so could be a bit of both for your darling too.

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    How'd she go today? Ds had some problems too.. it def sucks. 1kg sounds painful for the poor little darling.

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    Benefibre helped me when I was constipated all through my pregnancy.

    My friend's baby has poop issues and she swears eating pawpaw is the best thing for constipation. You could try putting pawpaw ointment around the other end, too.

    I hope you get some movement soon, 1kg of poo sounds painful.

    Sent from my Desire HD

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    Yayy for her doing a poo!

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    And forgot to add, the Microlax is un a tube that the tip just goes instead of having to insert a capsule.

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    the name of the cream form the pharmacy Sopde is talking about is called xylocaine, I think there are 2 diff strengths.

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    Oh the poor thing. I really hope she gets some relief soon

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    Liquorice also works quite well for getting things moving

    Glad to hear she has had some movement, but here's hoping for a lot more without medical intervention to your DD and you

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