Phernergan and or Pain Stop for severe teething?

[onthefly]

I've read phenergen has lad to bad outcomes in young children as it can suppress respiration. Not sure about pain stop but it's pretty heavy duty stuff, no? Best to avoid unless absolutely necessary I guess.

[bubno.3]

Painstop has Codiene in it .. Codiene is an opiate and this can depress the respiration rate .... but giving the right dose with the right weight etc in children it works like a dream.
Phenergan is a antihistamine which can make you very drowsy but again if the right dose is given yes drowsiness is still there but it too works like a dream . It can be used for allergic reaction (due to medications reaction as in codiene -itch) as well as sedation and anti nausea for pregnant women and it is safe for pregnant women.

[Just Me]

Poor bubba having tonsilitis Poor you too. It's not fun.

I hope she gets better quickly. It's good you got her to the doctor today by the sounds of it. Hopefully she will be better in time for your holiday.

With phenergen - I used it for DS1 on the doctor's advice for his eczema and it doesn't make all kids drowsy. DS1 did not get drowsy at all from it, he was just a bit clumsy so he was still wide awake but he kept walking into things and falling over. It just made everything worse. We only used one dose and then didn't do it again. I think Phenergen is best used as an antihistimine and nothing more. I know you aren't using it now, but thought I would put this here for anyone else looking for info on phenergen who might find this thread

I really hope that your DD gets a good night sleep tonight and that you do too

[Ozziehoffy]

I was going to suggest a throat infection when you said the chronic drooling... cos Elijah doesn't drool THAT bad when teething but a couple of weeks ago had a nasty throat infection and OMG the drool... it was crazy and his shirts would wet through! I'm glad that she's got the AB's now, she should start to improve heaps within a couple of days

[Taurean]

Black Rose - I tried that too but she either threw it or squirted it out of the dispenser

Bubno.3 - thanks for that. Another friend who is a nurse has said the same. Will send DH to the pharmacy soon for some Pain Stop (I've had a couple of wines in a lousy attempt to relax)

[bubno.3]

but you have to lie thru your teeth at the chemist ok

[bubno.3]

i dont know how to do the weight conversion for children but your other friend might know..... as the bottle has weight = how much to give the child. Ignore the age bit on the bottle and go by the wight eg your child is 10kg give what is says or a liittle less . Please watch the breathing but she should be fine .... ring your friend whos the nurse ok she will put your mind at ease;

[Ozziehoffy]

Oh and I forgot too... I do wrestle Elijah to the ground, pin arms down and just pop the meds in a couple of ml at a time cos otherwise he spits it all back out the little monkey!

[helle]

I was going to suggest tonsillitis. Poor poppet. DS had that a few months ago and it really knocked him around. I hope she's better before your trip! The ABs usually work quite fast. And DS didn't like his either (I don't know why, they're so sweet!) we had to pin him down to get him to take them.
Cruel to be kind huh?

I'm seriously against anything that can make you drowsy. I don't take it myself and I am not keen on ever giving it to DS if I can get away with it. I just think, what happens of they need to wake up but it's doped them up so much that they can't? I know its probably not logical but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[Taurean]

Awww, the support is awesome girls (I must have posted at the same time). I've had a bit of a boohoo and DH is with her now so I've got a bit of time for a few deep breaths. I'm exhausted! I feel so bad for being annoyed with her but I've hit my limit (for today) on how much more I can give! That's horrible but it's just how it is. I feel awful for feeling that way. Very glad DH is home now.

My poor little girl must be in agony. I know how painful tonsillitis is, to think she's going through that is heartbreaking.

Have spoken with my SIL who happened to be at dinner with one of our other GPs (they are good friends) and that GP was amazed the GP we saw today didn't prescribe Pain Stop! SIL lives around the corner and told us to get hers (we have the dosage details too). Just waiting until 10pm so we can give it to her. Feeling a little less stressed now, we May actually sleep tonight.

Thanks so much for your thoughts and suggestions. The past 24 hours has knocked both of us for six

[~Stoked~]

I'm seriously against anything that can make you drowsy. I don't take it myself and I am not keen on ever giving it to DS if I can get away with it. I just think, what happens of they need to wake up but it's doped them up so much that they can't? I know its probably not logical but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Me too. They increased the minimum age on these medicines for good reasons.

Taurean, I hope your DD is feeling better soon. Nothing worse than a sick baby The antibiotics should start working after a couple of doses. Hope you all get some sleep tonight x

[Party-of-five]

sounds like you are having a rough time hope she is better soon

[Bella29]

Taurean, if you need to get something down your DD I know of one fail safe way. Having had 7 years as an emergency nurse I can get most things down most kids.

So what you do is administer the medicine thru a syringe.. you put the syringe into the mouth, sometimes you will need to squeeze the jaw to open the mouth. you need to push the tongue down and keep the head tilted back in order for it to work. Then squirt the medicine to the back of the throat and keep the tongue pushed down so they can't use the tongue to push the medicine out. Keep the tongue pressed down till they swallow. That's it pretty much. If you bubba is particularly strong you can get another person to hold them. Basically if you are prepared then you can do it really quickly and there isn't much stress for the bubba.

Good Luck

xx Bella

[Taurean]

Bella - thanks hon, that's pretty much what DH and I just did. I did shed a tear or two though, it was awful. We gave her the Pain Stop then another dose of her antibiotics. It was pretty awful but we got it all in. I hate these mummy moments!

I checked the Pain Stop ingredients and it doesn't appear to have any antihistamine in it. She had the day time version today and was fine so the codeine shouldn't be a problem. I think the night one is just stronger, hence the need for script - I think!

She's asleep finally. It took us 3 hours to get her down despite her being shattered. I know a lot of mums go through a lot worse than this but as my DD is normally such a bubbly little independent girl, this has knocked me for six. You girls have really made me feel better though

[Bella29]

T- it is only the night time that has the antihistamines in it... to be honest we have used it a few times... Our DD thinks that medicine is lolies tho, so it hasn't been an issue for us but I totally know the place that you are in cos I have held lots of mums after they have had to put their bubbas thru it.. You are doing what she needs to help her. she would thank you if she understood, but I get that right now you just wish she was better We used to stick ice cubes into socks and tie a knot in them to help with teething during the day and that might help her in the day. you can still used neurofen with her and I would recommend that you do for the time being. Just remember 10mg per kg every 8 hours for neurofen... Good luck babe.. She will get better. PM me if you need any hints.. I miss nursing and will help if I can

Love Love

Bella

[Taurean]

Where would I be without you beautiful BB girls

Bella - thanks again. I love the ice cubes in socks idea! I have a couple of teething rings in the fridge but she's not really interested but I think a sock would be right up her alley

So the night one does have an antihistamine? Well that's good I guess, cause she's sleeping Yay (BIG sigh of relief ). I'll give her Nurofen if she wakes again and I have day time Pain Stop to tackle it all tomorrow.

I can see some light at the end of the tunnel. Now it's time I got some sleep. Night lovelies and a big thanks again.

[Taurean]

Yay for a full 8 hours straight sleep for me and 10 hours for DD And a super big yay for antibiotics and Pain Stop!

[FabFiona]

Double yay! Sleep is the best thing to help her get better. I've heard it is also good for mummies at the end of her tether.

Here's to a new day for you both.