I have to admit I don't like calorie counting too. It's so tedious. But what I did do when I was losing was pay attention to what sort of kj count was in the foods I was putting in my mouth. You will be surprised how much supposedly 'good' stuff isn't good for you. Lots of 'diet' products are often only marginally less kj than their non-diet products.

And I'd rather eat a 200g grilled steak and green salad and get 400 calories in that way than eat a meat pie and get the same amount of calories, fo instance. I know which one will keep me fuller for longer, but a lot of people think if you eat less and 'deprive' your body, you will lose. It doesn't work that way. It was paying attention to kjs that taught me that.

Once you get an idea of what good food is, it's easy to eat well, not feel hungry, and to not go into overkill with the kj. What I ate for breakie and lunch yesterday was equal in kj to what DP ate with one chocolate sundae, and he was hungry an hour later. It's not rocket science, and you shouldn't have to count cals forever once you get the knack of it.