Thank you, thank you, thank you again for more thought provoking and insightful comments.

When you talk about expectations, do you mean your wants for them, or what you see of them & what direction you think they might take?
Yes, I guess I would like them to be happy, nice, responsible people - that is a want. DH and I will do our very best to give them skills and experience to help them be like that and model the behaviour we want to encourage, but I truly have no expectation that they will actually be like that (so far, so good though ). In the end they could be miserable dole-bludging tortured artists, or worse, developers clearing endangered ecological communities to build shopping centers . I hope that they will grow into people I like and have things in common with, but I have no expectation that that will actually happen. ITMS.